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#1 CrazyMumOf3

Posted 11 April 2012 - 02:43 PM

My 5yo girl has been a horror to toilet train, we have the day time and #2's down pat, finally, but night times are another matter. She still wears pull ups to bed, we have tried several times to night train but she just doesnt wake up at all, when she wee's she'll just stay asleep. I have tried everything like no drinks after a certain time, going to the toilet just before bed, and me waking her when i go to bed to try again (that was always a horror she hates being woken up) Has anyone else tried any other tips that may help?

#2 MuminMtEliza

Posted 11 April 2012 - 02:51 PM

Hi, my 5yo DS isn't toilet trained at night either. His psychologist has said that their are 2 kinds of sleepers - one who will wake up easily when they feel the need for the toilet, or if the child is a deep sleeper, which our DS is, then you need to expand the bladder so it will eventually accommodate an overnight sleep. We were trying limiting drinks as well, but she said to do the opposite - let him drink as much as he wants, and even let him take a drink to bed. She has said that sometimes you actually have to get the child to drink more than usual at night. We are in the midst of doing this at the moment, so can't advise whether it works personally, but this is the advice we were given. Good luck.

#3 *lightning

Posted 11 April 2012 - 03:05 PM

My DD is turning 7 and only night trained 5 months ago. She just wasn't ready before this and we did try but she is a heavy sleeper.

Now she goes to the toilet before bed and we wake her up before we go to bed and she sits with us until she is awake enough to use the toilet. A child half asleep trying to use the toilet is stressful for all involved. We don't let her down a massive load of water before bed but we don't restrict her normal drinking habit. She has only had a few accidents.

Night times are expensive and a better option is a cloth night time, we used MotherEase night time. It holds a lot and you just wash it in the morning.

#4 Shellby

Posted 11 April 2012 - 03:32 PM

DS wasn't night trained until about 6 - I just didn't focus on it, gave him a pull up and over time he just stopped. I guess the reason I went for no fuss was I was a bed wetter until about 8 - I remember the stress my parents put me under, how my mother would get angry with me while putting a nappy on me as I shouldn't need one anymore. The limiting of drinks which felt like punishment to me, the plastic bag under my sheets and being told how know they had to wash sheets again to seeing a new doctor all the time to find out what was wrong with me - which made me feel bad that there was something 'wrong' with me.

In the end I just stopped, no changes, no meds nothing just my own time. I think I may have stopped earlier if I hadn't been so stressed about it - even now at 32 I get upset thinking about those years and bedtimes and the mornings when I woke and saw I wet the bed and freaked at what my mother would say.

I would just do your pull ups and wait another year before worrying - most kids do become dry in their own time.

#5 kelliev

Posted 11 April 2012 - 03:45 PM

I'm sorry no advice but I definitely sympathise with what you're up against. My DD1 will be 5 next month and is still wearing nappy pants to bed. I tried putting her in knickers at night about a year ago and while we had a few dry nights it was like having a newborn as I was up a couple of times a night taking her to the toilet. Like your DD she will simply sleep through a wet bed. I rang Ngala and they said she simply wasn't ready and to wait until she was waking with a dry nappy. We have NEVER had a dry nappy. I don't put any pressure on her, just tell her that when her body is ready it will happen. I'm torn between this softly approach and her becoming lazy as I know sometimes she wakes up in the night. Unlike daytime toilet training where there are behavioural strategies you can try, night training is so different - they are asleep and they can't help it sad.gif I'm in the hope that she will just grow out of it and her body will sort itself out in time. Ngala said it's not a concern until around the age of 6. Don't feel alone, once you ask around at school you will find it's much more common than you think. She'll get there. Best of luck!

#6 CrazyMumOf3

Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:42 PM

thanks for the replies everyone, both my older boys were very easy and got it so quickly, a lot of friends say girls are easier so ive been a little worried and now starting school as they start earlier than i ever did. I will leave her for now and let her set her own pace original.gif

#7 lozoodle

Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:27 PM

Don't belong in this section, but DD1 night trained about a month or two ago so its still fresh in my mind.

She wasn't waking up dry - nappy was still soaked in the morning but decided to give it a go. I found what worked for us was limiting fluids an hour before bed, then taking her to the toilet just before I went to bed. That does the trick and we've had no wetting.

I'm sure you've tried all that though original.gif

I wouldn't worry at this age, its perfectly normal and you cant force it. My niece is much older and still in nappies at night.

#8 dae-gu

Posted 13 April 2012 - 08:17 AM

We had the same issues here, and I tried a bedwetting alarm. Had to sleep in with my son for about a week (as he even slept thru the alarm), but after that he started to wake with the alarm and do it all himself. It worked, took about 2 months of wearing the alarm but was soooooooo worth it. Haven't had one wet bed since (18+ months on). My son was 6.5yo when we did this.

#9 shellyb

Posted 25 April 2012 - 08:34 AM

My DD only stopped nocturnal bedwetting at around 6 and a half. Her best friend still has the odd accident they are 8 in august. She's a deep sleeper and it stopped when it started to really bother her, before then she really didn't care. A lot of my friends have had the same issues with their girls and they all stopped when the child started really caring about it.


#10 Anonemy

Posted 28 April 2012 - 06:47 PM

sorry to  ninja.gif  but this is also what we are going thru  - 5.5 y o dd who is a deep sleeper - pull up is always soaked in the morning. She is not bothered by it so I've tried to suck it up. The only time I stress about it is when I have tried to get her to go nappyless - wet disaster.

Maybe she will start to care with sleepovers in the future....

#11 naturalgoodness

Posted 28 April 2012 - 06:54 PM

She is not bothered by it so I've tried to suck it up. The only time I stress about it is when I have tried to get her to go nappyless - wet disaster.

Maybe she will start to care with sleepovers in the future....

I would be pretty sure she is not doing it to annoy you luibee and if she can't help it then having all the care in the world will mean nothing, even when she has sleepovers.

You can't force, guilt, shame, annoy, tease a CHILD into being dry overnight.

My DS2 is 7 and its still rare to have a dry night. He has sleepovers and those people are aware he uses night time pants and he is discreet in putting them on and taking them off. He cares very much and would like to be dry at night but he just does not wake up and his bladder is obviously still not ready.

We accept that nature is mysterious and that it will sort itself out in time

#12 Anonemy

Posted 28 April 2012 - 07:47 PM

I only mentioned caring because other PPs seemed to think this was the key to tt

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