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#1 amanda1982

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:36 PM

Just wanted to get opinions are whether my view agrees with the majority or not as we were having a discussion in my husband's family and it seems myself is on the outer. I wont say which  opinion I have but am suprised by the rest of the family's view and just need a reality check maybe.

We had a school function a couple of weeks ago, an easter function fundraiser organised by the P & C. Bouncy castle, face painting, sausage sizzle, dance floor for the kids, stalls that sort of thing. Was at night, started at 5pm finished at 8pm. There was a grassed area for the families to sit, have dinner and a picnic etc, alot of families bought BYO drinks, wine, beer. They school was not selling it, just BYO.

Do you think it is acceptable for parents to bring alcohol and have a drink at a school function or not, and is it morally wrong.

Thanks






#2 FeralBob!

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:39 PM

I don't know that it's morally wrong, but it is something I would feel uncomfortable about doing. Apart from anything else, I would prefer that kids don't grow up with believing that adults drink on every social occasion.

#3 tres-chic

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:40 PM

I think it's fine if noone goes overboard. Why not have a wine or two?

#4 MsDemeanor

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:40 PM

My kids go to catholic school and they have BYO alcohol at Carols by Candlelight, and Rock N Roll night. They have a wine stall at the fair. I have not seen any parents getting intoxicated in the 8 or so years we have been there, and the kids really don't even notice it.

#5 Oriental lily

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:41 PM

I love to social drink but I think alcohol should never be allowed in the school ground. None of the schools that I know of allow it.

So a big no for me.  

Some people do not know how to drink in moderation.

School events would never have the appropriate security to handle those who become drunk and unruly. I dot want my children exposed to that.

#6 hamiriver

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:42 PM

I think it is fine.The people that bring it, should obviously drink responsibly. There would be some where if it was banned that would probably bring it anyway.
We have had fetes and there has been a bar and everyone behaves each year very responsibly.

#7 ali27

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:42 PM

it's not something I would do, but I don't think it's morally wrong...... Isn't illegal to drink on school premises?

#8 Nofliesonme

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:45 PM

As the parent of children whom I don't drink. They wouldn't see it as normal, they'd question it.

#9 Aquitaine

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:45 PM

If everyone behaves sensibly, I can't see why not. The problem (in my opinion) is if anyone goes silly.

#10 PrincessPeach

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:45 PM

Strictly speaking alcohol is not supposed to be consumed on school property, BYO or otherwise.

In saying that, so long as no one goes overboard, i don't have a problem with it.

#11 Feraldadathome

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:47 PM

I don't see a problem with alcohol at a picnic, even if that picnic is at a school. Some P&C functions at our school have had a bar (staffed by parents with RSA quals), but this seems to have moved to being for adults only fundraisers.

#12 threelittlegems

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:47 PM

Our school sells alcohol to parents at school functions - $5 for a very full glass of wine.

There has never been any problems with drunkness or fights, although most families are upper middle class and tend not to get into brawls.  rolleyes.gif



#13 i-candi

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:47 PM

I love to drink wink.gif

But even I think it shouldn't be done on school grounds.

#14 threelittlegems

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:47 PM

double post

Edited by threelittlegems, 11 April 2012 - 12:49 PM.


#15 Squeekums Da Feral

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:48 PM

In that situation op, i think 1 or 2 is ok. Its around dinner time and there a people who have a glass of wine or beer at home every night.  

If it was an awards thing or something like that, no i don't think that would be a good idea


#16 FeralFerretOfDoom

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:49 PM

I have no problem with it as long as it is being consumed in moderation.

#17 Liadan

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:50 PM

I think there would more likely be a legal issue, rather than a moral issue.

Unless the school has a liquor licence (which, if they allow BYO, they are required to have, even if they aren't selling), they could be in some trouble with the law. The school would also have a duty of care to everyone on the grounds. The same sort of duty of care that someone working in a bar has to their customers.

I don't like the idea of alcohol at school events.

#18 lozoodle

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:52 PM

Fine by me!

#19 Charlotte84

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:54 PM

I don't have an issue with it.  At the school I went to there was alcohol served at the award nights (the award nights held off school grounds)

#20 Rumour has it..

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:56 PM

Fine by me - its all about moderation & we arent talking about 17/18 year olds, but parents who are usually having a glass or two at night.

#21 *Lib*

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:58 PM

I personally don't think its necessary, but I don't drink. The first time I went to a school fete that sold alcohol I was a bit gobsmacked. They had a fenced area, the parents gave the kids money, and plonked themselves in the fenced area. It was called the pig pen......
oh and I'd imagine it'd be quite a money spinner for the P & C

Edited by *Lib*, 11 April 2012 - 12:59 PM.


#22 niggles

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:59 PM

I have no problem with people drinking alcohol with their picnic. I haven't taken it to school functions thus far but others have and it's seemed fine.

#23 i-candi

Posted 11 April 2012 - 01:00 PM

We weren't allowed to drink at the year 6 graduation held in a crappy sporting club. That night I NEEDED alcohol to get through the awful event !!!!!!

Something to do with department guidelines...


#24 lizardqueen

Posted 11 April 2012 - 01:00 PM

From the NSW Dept of Education https://www.det.nsw.edu.au/policies/adminis..._use/proced.pdf :

QUOTE
11.7 Consumption of Alcohol
The Department’s Drugs in Schools Policy stipulates that alcohol must not be consumed on or brought to school premises, under any circumstances, during school hours. In the case of cross-sectoral sites (e.g. joint School/TAFE sites) a decision regarding the extent of “school premises” will need to be made in the local context.
Community groups may be permitted to consume alcohol on school premises outside school hours, provided:
• they have the appropriate licence to serve liquor from the NSW Office of Liquor, Gaming and Racing.
• the principal, following consultation with the executive of the school's Parents and Citizens Association, agrees to such consumption and grants prior permission in writing;
• all children present are in the company of a parent or guardian; and
• the persons granted permission to consume the alcohol agree to act in a socially responsible manner that would set an example to children.


Rules aside, I think it's fine as long as everybody drinks in moderation. Unfortunately that's the one thing you can't make people do and there's usually one moron who spoils it for everybody else.  rolleyes.gif

LQ

#25 Expelliarmus

Posted 11 April 2012 - 01:01 PM

Here is the NT document regarding it.

This is the SA document

It is incorrect to say alcohol is a prohibited substance/not permitted on school premises because that is not true of every state. In SA if it is in a secure cupboard it can be there.

Edited by howdo, 11 April 2012 - 01:02 PM.





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