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#1 ~A2~

Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:46 PM

Hi all

New thread time

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Regards

Ali


#2 Caramel Latte

Posted 10 April 2012 - 08:08 PM

Gold

Dinosaurus: How is Teddy going? Hope you got some answers. xox

How is everybody?

xoxo

Edited by Desiree Farfalla, 10 April 2012 - 08:12 PM.


#3 Mrs Dinosaurus

Posted 10 April 2012 - 09:20 PM

DF swans in to nab gold laughing2.gif nice work original.gif

We are home, Ted has a whole lotta pooing to do! As my dr said they won't try and enema him so hes got stuff to make him go, stuff to make it soft and stuff to numb his bum. Poor thing, he has an a n a l fissure so he's in pain (despite no blood at all to give it away). Apparently the healing time varies wnormously.

On that delightful note I am about to eat something and go to bed! Poor little Ted.

#4 Caramel Latte

Posted 10 April 2012 - 09:46 PM

Hope his healing time not to long. Sounds very unpleasant for poor bub.

Edited by Desiree Farfalla, 11 April 2012 - 05:31 AM.


#5 MarsBarSlice

Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:13 PM

Dinosaurus - so glad to hear they found something with Teddy.  Not pleasant but at least now it can be treated.  Good luck, poor Teddy.

#6 Mamabug

Posted 10 April 2012 - 10:32 PM

DinoJ - you and Teddy have my total sympathy. It is not fun having poo issues. Worse when they are so little and you can't ask questions nor explain to them what is going on. Thinking of you both.

Oh, and I hope this doesn't sound wrong, but I hope this discovery is a good one and its resolution over time will also improve Teddy's sleeping behaviour. Pain and discomfort can certainly disrupt sleeping patterns.

#7 Mrs Dinosaurus

Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:58 AM

Thanks ladies original.gif

Mama bug - doesn't sound wrong at all, it is exactly what we were thinking, it made no sense to us that our previously good sleeper had stopped with no apparent reason. Hopefully now I've got a ton of stuff for him we can get him better, although we are now a bit worrid about his growth as this almost certainly means a loss of weight which will mean he's been losing weight for two months.

In other news, he's desperately trying to crawl - I give him a week max before he's off. Assuming he doesn't get concussion from constantly throwing himself forwards every time you put him down!

DF - How is Oreo going now?
Mama - house, kids, reno's...?
MBS - I don't want to ask, but how is the third question going? Perhaps you could do what Goosey did and fluke it!

Love to all. Xx

#8 Mamabug

Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:24 AM

Dino - Teddy is a robust lad. Even with my flyweights, there wasn't a great deal of concern over a weight "stall" due to other issues. MasterBug was chronically sick before he had his adenotonsillectomy just after his third birthday. His lack of weight never seemed to bother the gp or paed, even though he had struggled to put it on from birth (at five he now weighs a respectable 15kg - the same as his 3yo sister!).

But, if he is that backed up, some of his weight shouldn't be there anyway!!! The best thing you can do is address the impaction, keep his food intake nutritious, and he will come good. Once he is feeling well and functioning well, he will start to gain weight again.

AFM - um. No, the house has not sold. Kids all healthy, but have a snuffle. Renos...well...I m not sure how any marriage survives even the discussion stage of renovations, let alone the actual event!!! Himself and I keep discovering that my idea of re-doing the kitchen and his are two different things. He thinks we should replicate the lovely 80s light peach/dark beige look by having a couple of cupboards doors fixed.

We will need a whole scetion of cabinetry redone to accommodate the new wall oven and cooktop, so I figure if almost half of the cupboards have to be remade, why not rejuvenate all of them?

Problem is we have a budget of $8000 and he thinks the new cupboards will take half of this. I disagree as I want to replace the doors, not the carcass. A problem is we have massive sheets of peachy stuff facing into the dining room on the breakfast bar, and boxing in the fridge area which will need to be 'rejuventated' to match and Himself is stressing at what that will cost. Of course, all of his assumptions are based on NEVER having renovated a kitchen before. I am of the mindframe that we get a couple of people in to quote and we take it from there - no point saying we can't do something before we know what we can afford. We already own the stove, oven and new sink, so they don't need to be included in the budget. We are thinking of getting the cheapest benchtop available and then doing a Grantie Transformation overlay to get the balance between budget and look...but again, depends on quote, otherwise it is formica/laminex.

We had an all in barney discussing the future of the main bathroom - a job that will need to be done in the next five years, so I am happy to get quotes now as a target for saving. But he wants to do the bodgiest of coverups and call it a renovation. I recon there is no point in spending up to $3k now and then still needing to re-do most of it again in a few more years (when the kids will be older and costing more!). I'd rather wait a bit longer and do a better job once. Again, he doesn't care what it looks like as long as it is functional - and that is after the "reno". glare.gif

I don't see why it can't be both functional and bearable...if not downright appealing. Deep breath - maybe I should put this in the home and garden thread???

On a positive note, though, we painted the Biggest Bugs' room yesterday, it is a vision of pink and green biggrin.gif . Today I will do a good vaccum as we have pulled all the furniture into the midddle, clean all the cupboards down properly, wash the windows before we put the curtains back up, clean the mirrored wardrobe door. Then put everything back and make the beds with the new pink and green sheets I bought and put on the new bright, stripy quilt covers I managed to find to tie in the walls and the toybox/bedside drawers which are bold red, yellow, blue and purple. And the two layers of curtains which are yellow/gold underneath and blue thermal-backed ones on top.

Um...it looks better than it sounds, honest!!! I m very excited as this is the first time we have completely re-done a room in the three houses and 16 years we have been together. The Bugs' have been banned from the room and slept on the sofa bed last night (a great school holiday adenture for them), and I just hope they are even remotely as excited as me when we do the big "ta-dah"!

Er...sorry about the epic boring-ness of this post...obviously I needed to get it all more than I thought I did. I started typing and just couldn't stop!!!! blush.gif

#9 ThatsNotMyName

Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:05 PM

Dino that's just awful for Teddy (and you) but I'm so glad they know what's going on & have a plan in place. Fingers crossed it all resolves soon & Teddy can go back to sleeping well again. Very exciting almost crawling too!

Mama just get some quotes done & don't discuss it further with Himself till you have them to look at & have concrete options to choose from. I agree with you, you should spend the money now if you're planning to stay where you are. I think the room sounds brilliant, any pics?

Having a sh*te time with Caelan atm, tantrums, defiance lack of regard for consequences until the consequences happen then bigger tantrums ensue. Carys is becomming impossible to spoon feed, she demands to do it herself then proceeds to fling it everywhere & take an age to do so. She's been needing resettling at nights again and is still waking for a feed anywhere from 4.30-6 and on average sleeps for approx 20-30 mins total during the day so I'm pretty tired. I've started fantasising about running away somewhere far far away. This morning I was standing at the bins curbside cramming them full of random broken down cardboard boxes & styrofoam pieces and sobbing and realised that it was the best part of my day so far sad.gif

Soldier on soldier on soldier on.

#10 Mamabug

Posted 11 April 2012 - 02:36 PM

Oh TNMN. sad.gif

I saw the GP today and got a mental health plan so I can re-connect with my counsellor. I'm not at the sobbing stage everyday yet, but I have lost the ability to focus and remember anything important - including the fact that I was meant to see the GP yesterday and forgot. huh.gif

I can't even manage to keep the kitchen under control. I just look at it and seeing dishes in the sink (even though we have a dishwasher) completely overwhelms me. The kids room is still a mess as I looked at it this morning and just couldn't bear the thought of going in there and doing what needs doing.

Even this very moment I have three children screaming and yelling at each other while they are supposed to be colouring in. How can colouring in be a combat sport? At what point will they actually TALK to each other instead of whinge and yell??

So, the point if my post, TNMN is to say I feel for you, very much so. You need to make sure you take care of yourself. You are a priority, okay?

#11 Fillyjonk

Posted 11 April 2012 - 03:56 PM

Gosh, a lot has happened here.

Megan - sorry things are difficult at the moment. Maybe the holidays will give Caelan a chance to regroup? If you would like to bring the two of them over for a few hours next week (Tuesday or Wednesday) I would love to double the amount of food that gets flung around original.gif Wish there was more I could do to help.

Dinojen - oooh, poor Teddy sad.gif How is operation expulsion going? Lots of nappy rash cream on the fissure should help a bit (sigh, from painful experience)...

Mamabug - gack - you have a lot on too. I completley understand the stress of renovation discussions. That is why we still have lurid orange benchtops in the kitchen, fluro green motifs in the bathroom and faux wood veneers all over the house.

The general messiness here is getting me down too and I can't see it improving any time soon. I finally think I am top of the dishes and wham - we have another meal!! The floor is a memory of the past, along with any other flat surfaces. I did manage to clean the ensuite today which was growing furry bits so I guess that is a small victory.

Anyway - better get back to cooking dinner. I have a Chinese class tonight so I need everything ready to go to hand over the baton when Derek gets home.

Pregnancy is uneventful so far and I have not had much time to think about it, which is such a novel experience! I am starting to get the first waves of nausea when I am hungry and am a little more tired than normal but the worst is yet to come.

I went for some blood tests yesterday (posting-related as well as the pregnancy ones). Ten vials!! It is my personal record! Owen and Elise also had to get some (blood groupings) and I am sure you could hear the combined screaming a block away. Owen used to be good at blood tests but I think the immunisations have taken the gloss of needles for him.

Okay - dinner!!



#12 Shadowess

Posted 11 April 2012 - 03:58 PM

Right, who has a passport? I propose that we all take off for some lovely, warm island somewhere, with lots of duty free alcohol, and leave the men at home with the kids.

Who's in?



#13 Mamabug

Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:04 PM

Goosey - 你好

10 vials!!!! My PB was nine, with the last two having to be syringed out!!! As for the little ones, I hope as you walked out you made some comment such as "I told you what would happen if you touched that..." to make everyone in the waiting room look at you in horror.... happy.gif

Oooh Shadowess - I have a passport. I hope this doesn't sound like I am planning to run away immediately, but it does just happen to be sitting on the desk right next to the computer...and I also just got a wotmail about a $150 flaming deal per night for 2 adults at Daydream Island....the signs are converging.....

#14 Caramel Latte

Posted 12 April 2012 - 07:11 AM

Howdy,

Shadowess: sounds like a great idea.

Goose: hope the rest of your pg runs smoothly and so does the move.

TNMN: As Mumabug said "Take care of yourself you are a priority". Tho it does not help the tiredness etc, even a five/ten minute sit down with a cup of coffee/tea sometimes gives me a boost for the next round.

Mumabug: Good luck with the renovations and the house selling.

Dinasaurus: How is Tedding feeling today? Probably still to early for a huge improvement but hope the meds are reducing the pain asap.

Hi to all I missed.

AFM: Oreo is doing well, growing way to fast!!She is sleeping well, feeding well and milestones all on track... have the lactose intolerance, reflux and colic sorted so all is good. Forgotten how time flies when they are this small.

Everything else - not so good but wont and cant bore you with the details atm (can see the relief on your faces now biggrin.gif ).

Edited by Desiree Farfalla, 12 April 2012 - 07:40 AM.


#15 Mamabug

Posted 12 April 2012 - 08:29 AM

DF - we are here to be bored...see my previous epic renovation post as evidence of that!!!! This is a message bored, afterall...(yes, sometimes I really DO have to write/say these things for my own amusement).

Dino - I know poo is not as socially acceptable "issue" as something like reflux or eczema, but I do understand poo issues too well, so feel free to talk poo with me if you need to (although, it is a more common topic for babies than for a 6.5yo little girl sad.gif )

AFM - sorry, but Ihave to share. Ladybug slept through. blink.gif In the big cot in Little Bug's room. blink.gif  She woke to feed at 11pm and then stirred at 4ish. I popped the dummy in and she didn't come in until almost 7am. Er...Himself didn't bring her in, that is. She is not quite that mobile yet!!!

Not sure how I feel about it all. blush.gif I am reassuring myself that it was a freak aberation, otherwise I will be overwhelmed by the fact that we were going to start to wean her off the dummy this week...but if it is dummy versus sleeping through.....


#16 MrsCee

Posted 12 April 2012 - 09:35 AM

Hi girls,

Just a quck hello from me - still here and still very, very pregnant.

We hit 38 weeks yesterday, which was a bit of a milestone for me. After the boy was early and small, I just wanted to try to keep this bub in a bit longer.

Exactly 1 week to go (at the most). My caesar is booked for 7am next Thursday. I still can't believe I will have another bubba in a week.

Glad to hear pooing issues are looking up, poor Teddy sad.gif and sleeping thru is happening. As for renos.......

Building is stressful enough, let alone renovating and having to live in it.

Take care, girls, and look after yourselves. I will keep you all posted with any news in the next week.

C xox

#17 Mrs Dinosaurus

Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:16 AM

I saw Mrs Cee had posted and wondered if there was any early baby news laughing2.gif Not long now Mrs Cee!

DF - I completely second what Mamabug said, we are here to be bored and to listen to all dramas whether they are baby related or not. It's our job original.gif So pleased Oreo is on the up for you, lactose intolerance is the pits and DS1 only had it short term sad.gif

Mamabug - We didn't have renovation discussions, we both decided what we wanted and went with that. Although, we didn't want anything especially opposite to each other so we're both happy. And NFW are we living here while it's done! Definitely moving out, hopefully on holidays for at least part of it.

Shadowess - Why yes I do have a passport, funny you should mention that. And better still, DH does NOT currently have a passport so there would need not be any discussion on the matter...

TNMN - As Mamabug said, been there - look after yourself and go to the GP. It took me reading back something I had written here to 'see' I might need help and trust me, only you can help yourself - no matter how useful the family, friends and so on may be, they can't make you feel better. I currently feel awful but that is a story for down the page a bit, I intend to feel better soon!

Goosey Goosey Goosey - I still can't believe you're pregnant again, just wonderful. I intend to live vicariously through you without getting the slightest bit jealous. How novel! I would write something clever in mandarin but I don't know how to convert the language back and forth so instead I will say I have a (very 90's) mandarin tattoo from my travels in my 20's which I am having removed soon. It is two figures which should (do) say "bright star" but apparently combined together also tell a very lovely story of that moment in the morning just before the sun peaks over the horizon and bathes the country in light and all is fresh and new for the day. It's nice. But my chinese students all comment on it's weirdness and given we live in a heavy chinese area I don't want my poor boys being picked on at school because their Mum is completely Bogan laughing2.gif

Where was I...

Right:

Teddy - Seriously, I have no idea what to do now. Both the meds I have been prescribed say not to give to kids under 2, I am following the doctors instructions in I am giving him half a sachet of Movicol-half not a full one, but adults and bigger kids take it 3-4 times a day, should I be giving him half a sachet 3-4 times a day? i don't know, so far only one a day but nothing's moving yet. The cream to numb his bum says 6mg per kilo (that's a LOT of cream) and the Dr said dab a tiny amount on the end of my finger and gently apply to the outside of...well, you know. So I'm doing what the Dr said, but again - how often? It's all so confusing, i can't go back to my GP as he failed to diagnose in the first place so probably isn't 'up' on fissures and I can read the internet as well as the next person, I'm not going back the the RCH for 5 hours to ask that question, I either make it up as I go along or try and find another GP who may or may not know about this stuff! Argh!! Where IS that parenting manual?

Me - My first lot of meds didn't work, the side effects were too great so I could not have increased to the required dose. So I have come off them to clear my system and I will start a new one then (probably tomorrow) but since "clearing my system" I realise just how bad I was/am as yesterday I got really angry with DS1 over something and despite stopping, counting, trying...I still managed to yell at him sad.gif I think the meds are the way to go, I hadn't realised until that moment but I had not done that since I started them. I hope the next lot don't give me big head aches.

DH - Also had some scary blood results during the week so his meds are still up and down like a yo yo, he's calling his specialist today so hopefully we can arrange more frequent blood tests than weekly, as the last one he had crashed too low and then they increased his meds but this weeks was so high he had to stop the meds immediately and wait two days before starting again. But they don't want more than weekly BTs? Madness.

OK - On that essay my ILs are back from Cairns tomorrow for a week so I shall be busy but undoubtedly still on line (I'm addicted!) Take care everyone original.gif

#18 Shadowess

Posted 12 April 2012 - 03:38 PM

Jen, what about calling that health direct line thing? it's a nation wide 1800 number, and should be in Teddy's blue book. They have nurses staffing the number, and I believe they've just recently added some doctors as well. Might be worth asking them? I hope your new meds kick in soon, and you don't have the side affects.

Mamabug, yay for sleeping through! that's great! Your decorating sounds lovely, and so bright. I'm with you on the renos.. better to do it properly the first time, then not to have to worry about it again. Given you're at home during the day, can you just organise for some quotes to be done, and then you've got some basis for showing DH just what is involved? Just cos you get a quote doesn't mean you have to go with it.

MrsCee, not long to go! Good luck for Thursday. Have you got your name sorted out?

DF, okay, now I'm curious about what's not so good! Hope it isn't too bad...

Jen, 10 vials! that's bucketload of blood! I hear ya on the housework thing.. I've given up.

Megan, can DH or your parents or someone take the kids for a while for you? It seems to me that you really don't get a break... what are you doing with Caelan over the holidays? I'm home with Ruby on Monday if you want to throw him in with us, that'll at least give you half a break?

Alright, that's as far back as I can see.. hi everyone else!

Freya and I have the day off today- her childcare centre has to temporarily relocate while they renovate, so they've closed the centre for 2 days to move everything across. So, yay! day off! We went and had lunch with my team though, cos one of the girls is leaving. We also went and did a bit of shopping, got a few new warmer clothes now that it's cooled down a bit.

I found out on Tuesday from Ruby's teacher that she's getting an award at tomorrow's assembly... she let me know so that i could take her in especially for it (she doesn't go to pre-school on Fridays). I'm so proud of her! they choose one boy and one girl from each class, once a term, to give an award to, and she was chosen! So, that's tomorrow.

Still no crawling here.... there's some signs of pulling up though, so maybe we'll just go from sliding backwards, to standing with no crawling...

Anyway, better get going.

fee


#19 Mrs Dinosaurus

Posted 13 April 2012 - 11:34 AM

Thanks Shadowess, I called nurse on call in between the two Drs visits. I have called or seen nearly everyone!

He's had his movicol this morning and still nothing, I'll see what happens today and make a call after that. Sigh.

#20 Mamabug

Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:06 PM

DinoJ - if I've got my memory staright, the movicol helps soften the stool, but it doesn't mean it will soften the hardened 'plug'. Have you also been given something to help ease/lubricate the way for the impacted stool? Did you say you had suppositories? If so, did you use them? It can take a couple to help get things going. Also, with the softener, you may experience some faecal leakage around the impaction, which isn't actually a motion, so don't be fooled into thinking that things are moving if you start to see some output in Teddy's nappies. It can be an indicator that the impaction isn't shifting; that said, you will know it when the stool shifts.

When Biggest Bug was impacted earlier this year, it took about four days before the Movicol started to work (she was on one sachet of M-half/day), but that was after two weeks of Parachoc which helps lubricate things. So, I think it is very much a dual pronged attack of lubricant and softener that might show results in a couple of days. Of course on top of plenty of fluids.

#21 Mrs Dinosaurus

Posted 13 April 2012 - 04:39 PM

Nothing changing here. Mamabug I hope it works tomorrow.

My concern is that he continues to strain hard to get a little bit out and having watched him often enough with his nappy off I think he is trying to go (rather than not as the Dr suggested).

I wish it would stop being so distressing for both of us sad.gif

I wish I knew what to do next!

Ok, dinner to cook - happy weekends all. Xx

#22 Mamabug

Posted 14 April 2012 - 07:39 PM

DinoJ - just popping in for a Poo Watch update?

#23 Mrs Dinosaurus

Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:33 PM

QUOTE (Mamabug @ 14/04/2012, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
DinoJ - just popping in for a Poo Watch update?


roll2.gif I love you Mamabug original.gif

Anyway - last night we had two ok poos, in that it wasn't big, certainly nowhere near big enough, but both were more than a 5 c piece (usual amounts).

I forgot to add, he had suppositories but the Dr said to stop them, the consistency is slightly harder than play doh, not dry or hard. Today was back to usual, medicine this morning, a few attempts all day, some major attempts but bugger all output. He's eaten bugger all again too.

Argh!

In other news - WHY is Essendon losing to the Gold Coast? Not only will my team lose but my tipping will be stuffed. Huh!

Love to all. Hope your team is winning (well, not your rugby teams as I think the Rebels best bet is whole lot of draws and losses from the rest of Aus!)

#24 Mamabug

Posted 15 April 2012 - 10:47 AM

DinoJ - how did I miss the fact (or manage to forget during the off season!!) that you're a Bombers girl???? Himself will be relieved that I am associating with the "right kind" of people on-line!

As for the footy, at least they didn't lose to Greater Western Sydney....

But, back to Poo Watch. I would be inclined to keep using a suppository just to lubricate the passage and to relieve the pain/pressure on the fissure. The output may not be dry and hard, but he is still struggling to get it out, so it may help. Perhaps when you see him having one of his major attempts is the time to use a suppository as he is in the "mood" to go, and it may help everything come together?

Could be that there is still a hard plug in the system which is slowing everything else down.

#25 Mrs Dinosaurus

Posted 17 April 2012 - 01:27 PM

Poo! Hooray for Poo! And in a disgraceful TMI sharing moment, month old poo has exactly the odour one might expect - blerk! What a relief, now to see what happens next...

Mamabug - I presume you missed me being a bombers fan as I rarely talk aboutt he AFL and am (confusingly) also a demons member (family Membership - DH) I am trying to talk DH around before the kids get too old to be swayed, the Dees are just the same old same old and this is now 4 coaches so I think they need to look elsewhere (maybe starting with their motivating staff!

Enough Footy, how is everyone else?

My ILs and DH are down at phillip Island today so I'm home alone with both kids and wondering if there is any chance of getting either of them to bed before DH gets home around 10pm? Hmmm....the little one has been averaging 9pm since the ILs arrived and the big one has been averaging 8pm. I also have an assignment due so I kind of need them to go down. I will be torturing the little one awake after this nap (so from around 2pm) and not letting him sleep so he better be tired by 7pm at the latest!

Not much else here, the ILs have extended their visit so we have 3 more days to fill in!




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Kitty, when you’re the parent of my child you’re welcome to wade in with an opinion – but until then, I’d prefer you to have a supportive ear and a glass of wine ready.

Couple arrested over baby gun video

A US couple faces charges after investigators say they found mobile phone videos showing the woman's 12-month-old daughter putting a handgun in her mouth.

NSW Health dumps 10-year limit on frozen embryos

A 10-year time limit on storing frozen embryos that were created with donor sperm has been dropped by the NSW government.

How my happy-go-lucky husband became a monster

Sharan Nicholson-Rogers watched her husband change from a happy-go-lucky police officer into an unpredictable man prone to violent and emotional outbursts.

Dads-to-be experience hormonal changes, too

Dads-to-be experience hormonal changes in line with their pregnant partners, a new study shows.

'They were just doing their job': mum of toddler killed in police chase gone wrong

"They were just doing their job. I feel so sorry for them. It is all just too sad."

Miscarriages to be formally recognised by NSW government

Women who miscarry will be able to obtain an optional "recognition of loss" certificate as a formal recognition of their often heartbreaking loss.

Cafe cubby house 'too noisy' for neighbours

Teenage parties, domestic disputes, or raucous late night pubs are the things that usually come to mind when you think neighbourhood noise complaints.

Dad films baby playing with snake

Most parents would not consider a snake an appropriate playmate for their baby, but a US dad who filmed his daughter playing with a python has defended himself against criticism.

Clever breastfeeding products

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