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#1 paula1

Posted 10 April 2012 - 06:18 PM

Hi Everyone,

I've owned a canon 350D for a few years now and it has finally reached the end of it's life. I have well and truly outgrown this camera!!

I've always wanted a 5D Mark ii but always thought they were more suited to professional photographers.
I contemplated buying a 7D but the 5D is always lurking around in my head so i though maybe for a few hundred more i should just go ahead and get the camera that i want.

Do you think this camera is too much camera for an amateur with a passion for photography?

I don't want to buy a 7D/60D only to be wishing i had spent that little bit more and got the 5D.

Any opinions?  
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#2 Red Cabbage

Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:38 PM

I have a 5dmkii and I'm amateur.

However, the 7D is also an exceptional camera, but more suited to sports and wildlife photography than the 5D.

I'm not sure about the 7D's settings, but there is no auto function on the 5D, so if you can't use your camera in auto setting's you may struggle with it.

#3 Cat©

Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:51 PM

I dont think the 7D has auto settings either from what I read.

I have a 5Dmkii and want a 7D  lol - Actually I want both (I have a 50D and the 5D).

I find the 5Dmkii great, but its a bit slow. I also have issues with low light with it.....I don't know enough about cameras to say if the 7D will solve that but Im guessing it will help.

If you can afford the 5D and will use it to justify the $$ then go for it, otherwise save the extra $$ and get the 7D and spend the extra on lenses.

The photographer is what makes the good or bad photo but a good lens sure helps!!

#4 Red Cabbage

Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:57 PM

Cat - a tripod would fix low light issues.

#5 Cat©

Posted 10 April 2012 - 08:20 PM

Yep have a tripod, and yep issues with focusing in low light conditions. It drives me insane!
I also need to investigate better lenses for purpose, that might help! lol

#6 winkwink

Posted 10 April 2012 - 09:09 PM

QUOTE
I dont think the 7D has auto settings either from what I read.

It has full auto, P, Tv, Av, M, B & 3 x user settings.  It doesn't have the creative zone that you do with the 350D.

I upgraded from the 450D to the 7D a few months ago and couldn't be happier.  It's an amazing camera.

#7 lovemycanon

Posted 11 April 2012 - 11:12 PM

The 5D II does have auto, so does the 7D

#8 Millie71

Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:23 PM

what lenses do you have? remember the 5D is sull frame so you cant use EF-S lenses with it.

with focussing, this may be more of a lens issue than body issue......

#9 Cat©

Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:35 PM

I only use the 24-105mm L on mine and I have the focusing issue, yet my 50D that I shoot right beside it doesnt at the same settings and light (similar but different lens - its a crappy basic lens).

I'm not sure what the issue is with the 5D, but it has driven me to want to smash the camera to bits at times lol. Never felt that way with the 50D.

In my case it may just be something Im doing wrong, lets face it Ive only been shooting a year so not exactly camera savy! lol
I shall investigate further before it drives me mad or I break the camera in a hissy fit wink.gif

Im off to google the best lenses for low light long exposure photography any tips? lol

#10 Cat©

Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:45 PM

lol fertile - after reading that review and many of the comments perhaps Nikon is the better option!

I have noticed an issue with my shots a fair amount, and have tried to use mainly manual focus now, however as my vision isnt great I like auto focus.....but on a few occasions I swear my manual focus beats the auto!

#11 paula1

Posted 12 April 2012 - 05:37 PM

The auto focus problem certainly isn't filling me with confidence!
I've heard and read such great things about this camera.

Is it all the 5D mk ii's that have this issue or a certain batch?

#12 Red Cabbage

Posted 12 April 2012 - 07:00 PM

I don't think mine has this issue.

#13 Turn left

Posted 12 April 2012 - 07:03 PM

I've had a 5DII for over 2 years and I've never had any problem at all with auto focus.  I LOVE my camera.  I have 4 lenses, Canon Lens 24-70mm EF f/2.8L USM,  Canon Lens 50mm EF f/1.8 II,  Canon Lens EF 8-15mm F4 L USM Fisheye, Canon Lens 70-200mm EF f/4L USM.  My fav lens is the first one I bought, the 24-70, it's great and works a treat on the 5DII body.   I'm non-pro too, it's a great option for non-pros.  I'd be looking at a better camera like a 1D if I was a pro.

#14 paula1

Posted 12 April 2012 - 08:23 PM

For those that own one, did you find it overwhelming when you first got it?

Can you recommend any websites/books to make it less complicated?



#15 Kat5

Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:46 PM

I have a 40D, 50D & 2 5DMkii's. I havent noticed AF focusing issues, no more than the cropped sensor cameras. Im not saying it doesnt exist, but I havent noticed it. I use predominately prime lenses...I dont know whether that affects it or not but even with the 24-70 Ive been exceptionally happy with it.

I won a 5DMkii & 24-105mm L from canon last year. Its brand new in box and Im considering selling it so that I can get another lens and some more video equipment. If you're interested, you can pm me original.gif.



#16 mks81

Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:40 PM

I think the camera you get depends more on what you do, in this case is it more action or landscapes etc. But I would rather spend my money on my lens collection as well.

But its your money and I think if you can afford it go for it!

#17 Jenks

Posted 15 April 2012 - 12:49 AM

So it's not just my imagination then!!!! I upgraded to the 5Dii about a month ago and I'm having huge dramas with soft focusing and lowlight. I only have prime lenses for it at the moment and I am getting extremelly frustrated with it.

#18 Cat©

Posted 15 April 2012 - 11:30 AM

Yes Jenks, not your imagination, and from what I read so far the MkIII has the same issue also!

I had the issue last night, it really only affects me when its really low light and it simply won't focus so I have to do it manually - which doenst bother me other than my eye sight isnt great! lol

It makes it worse when using the NDX400 filter, its a b**ch to focus then as soon as it starts getting darker.

Also I have found on occasion its own auto focus is not properly fozcused when I take the shot, but usually I take a good 2-3 shots of the same thing anyway, so usually at least 1 of those shots is fine, if not all, it only happens to me once every 100 shots in normal light, but about 1 in 30 in very low light.

So not that common but frustrating if you are shooting in low light as I have been doing recently almost totally!

#19 mummy26

Posted 17 April 2012 - 11:52 AM

Ive not noticed an issue with it either. I went on a night photowalk last night ane took both my 7D and 5D2 and it focused fine for me. One location was a dark rooftop car park.  I use the back button AF on the 5D2

#20 kc84

Posted 19 April 2012 - 10:05 AM

I'm a pro who shoots weddings, and I have a 5d mkII & a 7d... They are a great set, as they compliment each other.

Regarding the AF issue, what I have found is that the 5d struggles to latch onto its subject when there is a lack of contrast. One option I have found it slightly move the focus point to somewhere it latches onto - not fantastic when using death of field. I worked this out, when I was shooting a sun flare shot, my 5d wouldn't latch, but the 7d did.

In saying that I love my 5d mkII, its a fantastic camera, does well in low light. One thing I have noticed however is the contrast & colour is slightly better in the 7d (i think mainly because it is a much newer model), but when shooting in RAW doesnt make a difference

I would suggest as an amatuer, to go with the 7d, its a fantastic camera - it is a crop sensor - so larger range of lenses fit on it. EF & EF-S lenses, so a good option if you already have EF-S lenses. I do think the 5d is better, but for an amateur not enough better for the price difference. (although mkII might be cheaper than when i purchased mine, due to the mkIII being released)

Also I would hold off on the mk III until all the bugs have been ironed out, which there are some from the first lot.




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