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#1 Guest_Buy Me A Pony !_*

Posted 09 April 2012 - 09:56 AM

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Edited by Buy Me A Pony !, 12 April 2012 - 01:47 PM.


#2 Rosiebird

Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:00 AM

I think we need examples! Unique as in "Sunday" or "lettuce" (properly spelt of course)?

#3 Guest_Buy Me A Pony !_*

Posted 09 April 2012 - 10:10 AM

Uneek as in Sunday and Lettuce but not copying celebrity names (that would be lame), more making names from nouns (as in your eg RB) which include proper nouns (planets, asteroids or stars anyone?), fruit, days and months, words taken from foreign languages (that have zero connection to the parental ancestry) etc.

#4 la di dah

Posted 09 April 2012 - 01:47 PM

I would have counted planets/asteroids/stars as being more a mythology nerd than a made-up name? Orion, Andromeda, etc. if that's what we're talking about.


#5 Guest_Buy Me A Pony !_*

Posted 09 April 2012 - 03:28 PM

Well none of these names are made up according your criteria LDD. Answer my question! wink.gif

#6 la di dah

Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:38 PM

I assumed I have the sort of taste that gets panned as "so American," BMAP. biggrin.gif

I MAY have once asked my husband if I could use Peacemaker as a middle name, but no one can prove anything.

#7 Guest_Buy Me A Pony !_*

Posted 09 April 2012 - 04:58 PM

I think I'm a w**king bogan howls considering I've transplanted myself to bogan central but still have w**ky tendencies wink.gif But isn't that an entirely subjective construct anyway?

Why is no one answering my question? Is it really this unimportant in the mind of others? I'm hoping to not miss the trend in terms of naming my own offspring and my desire to pass on a traditional moniker could well socially isolate this poor sprog of mine.

#8 la di dah

Posted 09 April 2012 - 05:12 PM

It's not a trend I've noticed here, as in my suburb. Better have an -ayden or -ayley name instead.

#9 Magnus

Posted 09 April 2012 - 05:33 PM

Have you seen the Freakonomics documentary where they discuss people from lower classes using names aspirationally? I can't remember all the names, but they were saying names went through cycles where they became popular amongst the upper classes and then were adopted by lower classes as a symbol of their status aspirations for their children. One example they used was the name Samantha, which was almost exclusively upper class at one point in time and then when they looked at the data from about ten years later was almost exclusively lower class.

Samantha is NMS anyway, as it really reminds me of 'salamander'.

I guess that could explain why bogans are using w*nker names, but not the other way around. Maybe the w*nkers have to be a bit more creative because lower classes keep adopting their names aspirationally?

#10 Tecopa

Posted 09 April 2012 - 05:45 PM

Here is a blog about it...

http://www.namecandy.com/celebrity-baby-na...h-society-names

Ember I like!! I do reckon the Freakonomics things is real - so in 20 years expect a lot of Embers etc in the US perhaps.

#11 la di dah

Posted 09 April 2012 - 05:48 PM

QUOTE (Tecopa @ 09/04/2012, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here is a blog about it...

http://www.namecandy.com/celebrity-baby-na...h-society-names

Ember I like!! I do reckon the Freakonomics things is real - so in 20 years expect a lot of Embers etc in the US perhaps.


...Ember is a name my DH and I were just talking about actually. For real. And we said we liked it though its not a front-runner at the moment. He likes Winter, etc. I have now creeped myself out.

#12 Guest_Buy Me A Pony !_*

Posted 09 April 2012 - 05:51 PM

Aha! I thought I'd read about this before. Thanks for the reminder biggrin.gif

#13 SisterMaryElephant

Posted 09 April 2012 - 05:54 PM

I would guess it's a sign that the trend back to old fashioned traditional names has run it's course.  I'm a name traditionalist and even I'm sick of Olivia, Ava, Isabella, Sophia, et al.  So I guess the 'w*n*ers' (does that mean middle to upper class ?) are going for something different.


#14 Guest_Buy Me A Pony !_*

Posted 09 April 2012 - 06:09 PM

CleverChook I thought this was the reason for the resurgence of old names ie Mavis a few years ago. Even traditional names have cycles.

Edited by Buy Me A Pony !, 09 April 2012 - 06:10 PM.


#15 Guest_holy_j_*

Posted 09 April 2012 - 07:30 PM

I think I need a translation for this whole thread.

#16 Dowager fancie

Posted 09 April 2012 - 11:55 PM

QUOTE (Tecopa @ 09/04/2012, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here is a blog about it...

http://www.namecandy.com/celebrity-baby-na...h-society-names

Ember I like!! I do reckon the Freakonomics things is real - so in 20 years expect a lot of Embers etc in the US perhaps.



Celerie?  Hahahahahaha


#17 Bel Rowley

Posted 10 April 2012 - 08:16 AM

I live in what I'd class as a truly middle class suburb. Friends are a mix of professionals and tradespeople, all comfortable but not wealthy. Drive 5 minutes north and your in bogan heartland, 5 minutes south and its w*n*er central. Majority of the names around here are still very traditional (or boring). Not many around that would raise an eyebrow, even my kids' names are considered a bit out there by a lot of people in my area.<br><br>So I don't really know the answer to your question BMAP. I did find that blog post interesting, of course I am a member of Team '-ina' and quite happy to pretend I am high society grin.gif.

Edited by Bel Rowley, 10 April 2012 - 08:17 AM.


#18 tres-chic

Posted 10 April 2012 - 08:26 AM

I live in a pretty homogenous, middle class area that is close to some wealthy areas and I'd have to say the upper class people did 'retreat to' (for want of a better expression) very safe, traditional names, Alice, Charlotte, etc.

I've yet to see anyone 'embrace the bogan'.  smile1.gif

#19 Luci

Posted 10 April 2012 - 08:29 AM

Hi BMAP,

I live in the Eastern Suburbs so am quite fascinated.  My 2 children attend private schools (they are 5 and 7) and there are not really any uneek names amongst their school friends - tend to be mainly the more traditional popular names.

So I am thinking it must be a new trend....  I am currently pregnant with #3. DH and I were actually talking about names yesterday. We are considering James or Amelia. I gather they are so "last year" and we are badly showing our age?

Any chance of a few examples?

Luci

#20 niggles

Posted 10 April 2012 - 07:22 PM

In my area, taking my daughter's class as a reference point, the names are the traditional Sophie, Thomas, Isabella types with the occasional surname as first name thrown in. No creative spellings or highly unique names (except maybe ours). I definitely have bogan roots; my brother defined the mullet in the 80s and we all wore DBs at some stage so if we were your study the bogans still have it for creativity.

#21 niggles

Posted 10 April 2012 - 08:15 PM

QUOTE (*howls* @ 10/04/2012, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Niggles, is this the local school?


It's a private school in my area.

#22 Guest_Buy Me A Pony !_*

Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:39 AM

Luci we have older children at school and that generation is full of traditional names which is why I'm also finding the newer names a bit of a pleasant shock. It's making me think nonetheless, that perhaps there has simply been an overdose of uneek spelling (not in this demographic as I've just not come across it IRL, but in wider society). Since some of the traditional names have been decimated by popularity, I'm thinking many have become unusable for fear of being lumped in with the "how do you spell it?" category.


QUOTE (*howls* @ 10/04/2012, 07:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For the alternative contingent, they mostly come from middle-upper class families.


This is the demographic I'm referring to. My friends tend toward the creative and alternative side of the burbs and inner urban areas.

#23 raven74

Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:51 AM

I don't know, really.  In my experience (I photograph lots of kids, oh gods, lots!) there is an uneven mix.  I have educated, smart w**ky people give their offspring a name like Trick or Ezmehreldah and the bogans have gone for the gems of the naming world, like Eva, Amelia and classic boys names, with correct spelling.  It's a mixed bag. I have stopped trying to quantify it and have decided that when it comes to naming  kids a lot of folks pick a name that you would never expect, regardless of where they sit on the w**k to bogan spectrum.
It doesn't matter where you sit, an extra h, y or vowel is always a bonus, isn't it? tongue.gif




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