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#1 runnybabbit

Posted 07 April 2012 - 06:35 PM

Hi everyone.

I've recently moved and found myself part of a mums' group that is very pro-FF, because the baby just wants to see what is going, he looks so uncomfortable, etc lame excuses.

Does anyone have links to journal abstracts, or any such information?

(I suspect I won't be part of this mums' group for much longer, but as my parting shot, I'd like to give them some information. wink.gif)

Edited for grammar.

Edited by runnybabbit, 07 April 2012 - 06:37 PM.

#2 agnodice

Posted 07 April 2012 - 06:42 PM

Do you really think they will listen or care? Sounds a bit petty to me, OP.

I'm all for rear facing, but really all people are obliged to do is obey the law. And if they're doing that, asking them to do any extra is not really your place.

#3 runnybabbit

Posted 07 April 2012 - 07:32 PM

QUOTE (MsN @ 07/04/2012, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you really think they will listen or care? Sounds a bit petty to me, OP.

I'm all for rear facing, but really all people are obliged to do is obey the law. And if they're doing that, asking them to do any extra is not really your place.

MsN these are mums that are FF before their bubs are 6 months, because they "seem ready". So, no, not obeying the law.

And if I can get just one mum to rethink FFing her bub prematurely, then that's a good thing in my book.

#4 Lenats31

Posted 07 April 2012 - 08:34 PM

I see nothing wrong with giving them some information, so they at least can make an informed decision.


the seats shown there are NOT LEGAL in Australia. But the site contains loads of info. Also worth noting is that the laws of physics DO NOT CHANGE from one part of the world to the next.

#5 Honeymummy

Posted 07 April 2012 - 08:40 PM

So are you wanting to educate them or deliver them " a parting shot" as in your OP. I agree petty.

#6 CallMeProtart

Posted 07 April 2012 - 08:40 PM

QUOTE (MsN @ 07/04/2012, 06:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you really think they will listen or care? Sounds a bit petty to me, OP.

I don't think giving them information that could possibly save their baby's life is petty, whether they choose to listen to it or not.

#7 Lenats31

Posted 07 April 2012 - 08:58 PM

most parents think their babies are like adults in terms of physics. They are not. on top of that the vast majority are not offered the chance to make such informed decision.

What these mothers decide to do is ultimately their choice, but at least they can have the chance of making an INFORMED decision unlike most others.

Edited by Lenats31, 07 April 2012 - 08:59 PM.

#8 runnybabbit

Posted 07 April 2012 - 09:02 PM

I'll admit that there is a part of me that wants to be proven right by objective facts. But for the most part I am appalled that there are mums advising first-time mums to front-face babies as young as four months, simply because at that age they start becoming more sociable and wanting to be more involved.

#9 lizb87

Posted 07 April 2012 - 09:41 PM

just search rear facing car seat on you tube - the videos were enough to get me right back to my car turning the seat rearward again!

#10 IsolaBella

Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:16 AM

I always find a picture is worth a thousand words.... the question is do you want your sub 12mo subject to this......


..... when all you need to do is RF and they are protected?

(note the pictures are Aussie using SnS seats)

#11 ednaboo

Posted 08 April 2012 - 09:10 PM

If the babies are younger than 6 months, the law still requires them to be FF.

the law and standards on child restraints

Children aged under 6 months must use an approved, properly fastened and adjusted  rearward facing restraint.
Children aged between 6 months and under 4 years must use an approved, properly fastened and adjusted rearward facing child restraint OR a forward facing restraint.

From RACV which is Victorian but the laws are national now.

Britax, who make Safe N Sound brand seats (and others) say this:
Q. Why does my baby have to travel rearward facing?
A. In a frontal accident it is safer to spread the forces of an accident across a fully supported back than to be suspended in a harness. Additionally a baby’s head is largely unsupported and vulnerable to being thrown violently forward if in a forward facing restraint.

Q. How long can I keep my baby in the rearward position of my Convertible Car Seat?
A. All Safe-n-Sound Convertible Car Seats allow you to keep the infant in the rearward position for up to 12kg. Keeping your child in rear facing mode for as long as possible provides maximum safety for your child.

From Britax FAQ.

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