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#1 Mozzie1

Posted 06 April 2012 - 10:43 AM

I have always assumed that I O on CD10 (even before TTc), based on my 'gut feel' and the fact I have a 24 day cycle. We have been TTC for about 5 months now and got nowhere, so I thought I would try charting to see if I was right.

My chart is here - FF has called o on exactly day 10.

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3c27ff

We BD'd in the evening of CD7 and the morning of CD10 (was way too tired on CD9!).

My question is - if you BD in the morning of the day of O, is that too late? Does it matter what time you O?

This TTC stuff is doing my head in!

Thanks.

#2 shelbysmum

Posted 06 April 2012 - 10:48 AM

Unfortunately in the TTC game you can do everything perfectly and still not be pregnant. In answer to your question it is generally accepted that you are fertile up to and including ovulation. In prime conditions sperm will survive for a few days whereas the egg is only available to be fertilised for about 24 hours.

I understand the frustration but 5 months is not yet cause for concern. Keep charting and keep BDing around ovulation!



#3 Mozzie1

Posted 06 April 2012 - 11:10 AM

QUOTE (shelbysmum @ 06/04/2012, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Unfortunately in the TTC game you can do everything perfectly and still not be pregnant. In answer to your question it is generally accepted that you are fertile up to and including ovulation. In prime conditions sperm will survive for a few days whereas the egg is only available to be fertilised for about 24 hours.

I understand the frustration but 5 months is not yet cause for concern. Keep charting and keep BDing around ovulation!


Thank you. To be honest, I'm feeling quite relieved now that it seems that I am definitely ovulating, nd don't have a short LP. That's 2 less things for me to worry about!



#4 Sunshiney

Posted 06 April 2012 - 12:29 PM

QUOTE (Mozzie1 @ 06/04/2012, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My question is - if you BD in the morning of the day of O, is that too late? Does it matter what time you O?


Morning of O day isn't too late, but my GP and naturopath both say the best chances of conception is from BDing the day before O.  My naturopath gave me the following BD plan.  The plan is not for getting any BFP you can, but only aiming for the healthiest conception to increase chance it lasts for 9 months.  OP - based on the plan, you're in with a good chance especially since you had some abstinance to build up sperm before BD.
  
Here's the plan, explained with example of O day = CD10:

1.  Determine day you're likely to O this cycle (based on O days and fertile CM pattern from previous charts) - i.e. CD10

2.  The day before O day (i.e. CD9) is your most fertile day and best day to start BD'ing.  Reason -  aging sperm is potentially defective, so only want fresh sperm fertilising egg and conception is more likely if sperm is already waiting for egg when O happens.    

3.  Count back 3-5 days before the day before O day (i.e. CD9 - 4 days = CD5).  Start abstinence on this day after an ejaculation.  Reason - ensures fresh, healthy sperm meet the egg and 'cos your man loses large amounts of zinc and selenium (very important for healthy sperm) with frequent ejaculation.  Don't have abstinence longer than 5 days 'cos sperm ages in testes and won't be fresh enough.

4. Once you reach the day before O day (i.e. CD9), start BD'ing and keep going until O has occurred (i.e. stop after CD10).  Best time to DTD is early evening 'cos sperm count is best between 5-5.30pm and O peaks between 3-7pm.  Sperm to be deposited high in vagina, near cervix (penetration from rear is most successful).  After ejaculation, leave penis in vagina until it is flaccid to prevent pulling semen out.  

5. If you reach CD17 and O has not occurred - stop BD'ing.  The follicle size starts to decrease after CD14.  Naturopath says if you O on CD17 or later, the egg will likely be defective so you don't want to fertilise that one and will need help to bring O forward.      

6. If you missed O and want to BD the next day (i.e. CD11) - don't BD but wait 'til next cycle to avoid fertilising an aging egg that is still alive but starting to deform (to avoid a BFP ending in mc).  
  
Good luck!

#5 Mozzie1

Posted 07 April 2012 - 12:04 AM

QUOTE (Sunshiney @ 06/04/2012, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Morning of O day isn't too late, but my GP and naturopath both say the best chances of conception is from BDing the day before O.  My naturopath gave me the following BD plan.  The plan is not for getting any BFP you can, but only aiming for the healthiest conception to increase chance it lasts for 9 months.  OP - based on the plan, you're in with a good chance especially since you had some abstinance to build up sperm before BD.
  
Here's the plan, explained with example of O day = CD10:

1.  Determine day you're likely to O this cycle (based on O days and fertile CM pattern from previous charts) - i.e. CD10

2.  The day before O day (i.e. CD9) is your most fertile day and best day to start BD'ing.  Reason -  aging sperm is potentially defective, so only want fresh sperm fertilising egg and conception is more likely if sperm is already waiting for egg when O happens.    

3.  Count back 3-5 days before the day before O day (i.e. CD9 - 4 days = CD5).  Start abstinence on this day after an ejaculation.  Reason - ensures fresh, healthy sperm meet the egg and 'cos your man loses large amounts of zinc and selenium (very important for healthy sperm) with frequent ejaculation.  Don't have abstinence longer than 5 days 'cos sperm ages in testes and won't be fresh enough.

4. Once you reach the day before O day (i.e. CD9), start BD'ing and keep going until O has occurred (i.e. stop after CD10).  Best time to DTD is early evening 'cos sperm count is best between 5-5.30pm and O peaks between 3-7pm.  Sperm to be deposited high in vagina, near cervix (penetration from rear is most successful).  After ejaculation, leave penis in vagina until it is flaccid to prevent pulling semen out.  

5. If you reach CD17 and O has not occurred - stop BD'ing.  The follicle size starts to decrease after CD14.  Naturopath says if you O on CD17 or later, the egg will likely be defective so you don't want to fertilise that one and will need help to bring O forward.      

6. If you missed O and want to BD the next day (i.e. CD11) - don't BD but wait 'til next cycle to avoid fertilising an aging egg that is still alive but starting to deform (to avoid a BFP ending in mc).  
  
Good luck!


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