Jump to content

Toddler not able to self settle
Sleep School?


  • Please log in to reply
4 replies to this topic

#1 vitaechel

Posted 30 March 2012 - 04:02 PM

My DS has never been a good sleeper. We ended up having to co-sleep most of his first 6 months. He started getting a bit better for a while, but has reverted lately (prob due to house move). We can spend 2 - 2.5 hours every night trying to settle him into his bed. He sleeps in a big boy bed now and can get up. He does so - continuously. He also throws tantrums and destroys things in his room. We have tried controlled ignoring, putting him back, night lights and we are down to lying in bed with him and rubbing his tummy, singing etc until he falls asleep. This can take an hour or so on it's own and is exhausting. I end up doing it most of the time as DH is losing patience (he is a great dad, but I think he is suffering some feelings of rejection as DS has always been a daddy's boy and lately has been calling out for me).

I can't keep it up as I am getting to uncomfortable with pregnancy and also making my sore back a whole lot worse.

DS is VERY active and is a bit delayed in his speech (seeing speech therapist in nearby hospital and he is improving, she has suggested he goes to Pediatrician in same hospital for further testing due to over activeness). He gets along well with others, but is not a great eater and recently has started throwing massive tantrums. We have tried dropping day naps, but he is just too tired. We now restrict nap to one hour (it can take an hour to get him to sleep and if he won't sleep he has quiet time). Lately he has fallen asleep on my lap or shoulder during quiet time if I stay with him.

Once asleep (atm that is happening around 10pm) he will sleep until 7am around 4 days out of 7. The rest of the time he is up and climbing in our bed between 2 - 4am. I know he should be sleeping about 12 - 13 hours, but we are lucky if he is getting 10 hours. It is obvious he is tired most of the time from his behaviour.

I have done Positive Parenting classes, followed books and advice from Maternal health nurses. Have reached the conclusion we need more help. I have been given the number of Tweedle in Melbourne (we are 2.5hrs away, but nearby sleep school can't help).

Has anyone taken a Toddler to sleep school? What kind of fees will we be looking at?

*edit due to sleep deprived spelling.

Edited by vitaechel, 30 March 2012 - 04:03 PM.


#2 ubermum

Posted 30 March 2012 - 04:15 PM

Maybe I am mean, but I would put a gate on his bedroom door and leave him to it. If he destroys things, I would remove them. If he only ends up with his bed, blanket and pillow in his room and everything else removed or secured then so be it. Without stimulation, distractions and attention, he will tantrum or get so bored he falls asleep. If he doesn't fall asleep in his bed, it doesn't matter. So long as he is in his room. Currently, his methods are working. He has your full attention for hours. He is big enough to know you are still there and he hasn't been abandoned. My girlfriend did this exact approach but she shut her child's bedroom door and latched it so they couldn't open it. I prefer the baby gate so they can hear you and don't feel totally isolated, but can't get out. Her son used to fall asleep behind the door within 30 minutes.

#3 vitaechel

Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:10 PM

He is perfectly capable of climbing over a baby gate unfortunately. We have moved into a rental (just sold house) so adding a lock to the door is out of the question. We have tried controlled ignoring, but he will happily put himself in danger (climb up shelves etc) to get attention and that is unacceptable. We can't remove everything from his room as we just don't have that option. We already have locks on fridge and any dangerous cabinets after I caught him having a midnight snack one night.  rolleyes.gif

On the bright side - Tonight DH put him to bed and for the first time in a loooonnnnggg time, it only took 30mins. We varied our night routine. I gave him food at around 5pm (this was a suggestion from Parenting class - feed earlier to get see if we can get more food in him) then we went to the pool for some swimming for about 40mins. This also allowed me time to exercise and relax while DH played with DS.

We gave him a bit more dinner when we came home - which for once he devoured and then started on bedtime routine with DH completely in charge (I had a bad headache and there was no way I could do the bed routine tonight).

Unfortunately, this is not something we can do every night, but I am relieved we have at least one night of peace.

#4 ubermum

Posted 31 March 2012 - 11:07 AM

I wouldn't waste your money on further sleep schools then op. I went to Tweddle and they will give you very similar advice to mine. If it is too hard to remove distractions and dangers from your child and keep him in his room, there is not much they can do to help. I guess he will eventually grow out of it.

#5 Riotproof

Posted 31 March 2012 - 08:54 PM

I'd be pursuing the paed.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Heartwarming prank gives single mum the house she was hired to clean

Cara Simmons arrived at work to clean a large and beautiful house in time for a party planned for that evening. It was soon hers.

Why we should stop telling new parents to 'enjoy every moment'

A few weeks ago, some dear friends of mine had their first baby. As the proud dad texted me a picture I had to fight the natural instinct to say “Enjoy every moment!”

Transgender dad breastfeeds his babies

A transgender man who breastfed his first baby - despite having his breasts removed as part of his transformation from female to male - has now had a second child.

Couple face $1 million medical bill and bankruptcy after babymoon birth

A Canadian couple were slammed with a million dollar medical bill after their daughter was prematurely during their babymoon.

Win one of 5 Little Tikes Cozy Coupe Sport

Australia?s No 1 selling car is now available in a Sports model and we have 5 to give away to some lucky Essential Baby families.

Cigarettes, junk food dominate supermarket sales growth

One in every five dollars spent at supermarkets goes on cigarettes or junk food, according to industry data.

Teacher under fire for breastfeeding in class

There is no doubt mums have a right to continue breastfeeding after they have returned to work, but one teacher in the US has taken it to the extreme.

Video: Baby sniffs beardless dad to make sure it's him

She looks him up and down and then touches his chin, but baby Lindsey still isn't sure this clean-shaven man is her dad.

The tragedy of losing a favourite teddy bear

We were green and uninitiated, perhaps a little naïve when it came to the favourite toy responsibility.

It's possible to workout while pregnant

Medical experts say intense fitness routines can be done safely during pregnancy - if the mums-to-be follow some guidelines.

Baby for Asher Keddie and Vincent Fantauzzo

Fans followed every step of her on-screen pregnancy in Offspring, now Asher Keddie is going to be a mum in real life too.

What parents really want for their kids

Are our hopes, dreams and expectations for our children what they really need?

'I had a feeling something was seriously wrong': the fight for Kaden's diagnosis

Before even giving birth, Katie Myers' maternal instincts warned her something was wrong with her baby.

When your pregnancy causes a relationship rift

Some dads-to-be don't miss a beat when their partner is pregnant; others struggle with a range of issues and can become withdrawn, right when their support is needed most.

Couple uses group photo trick to announce pregnancy to loved ones

Katharine and Kris Camilli devised a clever trick to immortalise their family and friends' reaction to their exciting pregnancy news.

Why Tracey Spicer has given up make-up

"After 30 years on television, I had become what I despised: a painted doll who spent an hour a day and close to $200 a week putting on a mask."

Empowering bikini photo of 46-year-old mum goes viral

When a group of teenagers made rude remarks about her body as she walked past them in a bikini at the local beach, Julie Cross refused to cover up.

Devastated widow discovers she's pregnant the day before husband's funeral

They had been trying to conceive a baby for seven years. Tragically Kristy Kirchner found out she was pregnant the day before her husband Royce's funeral.

Win a family pass to Disney Live!

We have 4 family passes to give away to see Disney Live! presents Three Classic Fairy Tales, touring Australia this December/January.

Gabriella Goat sues Peppa Pig

Every toddler's favourite television pig is being sued by an Italian woman who shares a name with a Peppa Pig character.

Meet the Mpregs, the male pregnancy enthusiasts

"Men can't have babies - that's something only women can do! But our community is full of like-minded people who wish otherwise."

Your new motherhood survival kit

Forget about the bright, pretty baby things - while you're in survival mode, all you'll need are the essentials.

More than 100,000 cars recalled globally after death of pregnant woman

The announcement of a mass recall comes as Malaysian police investigate the death of pregnant woman in July.

I had a 'good baby' but still suffered from postnatal depression

I had a much wanted precious baby girl, a 'good baby' who slept well, self settled and was mostly content. It just seemed implausible to think I could succumb to depression.

Download now: Essential Kids Activity Finder app

Got bored kids? Quickly find the best activities for kids wherever you are in Australia with the Essential Kids app.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Win one of 5 Little Tikes Cozy Coupe Sport

Australia?s No 1 selling car is now available in a Sports model and we have 5 to give away to some lucky Essential Baby families.

Join PADDINGTON on the red carpet!

To celebrate the release of PADDINGTON, we are giving five lucky winners the chance to win a family pass to the exclusive Australian Premiere in Sydney on December 7!

Knowing you are one of the lucky ones

I am secure, confident and strong, but the responsibility of protecting my children can almost bring me undone.

Why I am so emotional now I have kids?

There are so many ways in which parenthood changes us as women, but one of the most noticeable, for me, has been the changing state of my emotions.

Baby survives despite sharing womb with 'foreign body'

Baby Maia was conceived against the odds, only to find she was sharing a womb with an ominous "foreign body".

Video: Baby shows dog how to jump - or vice versa

They say dog is man's best friend, but this playful pooch seems to have chosen a jumping baby as her number one buddy.

10 ways to soothe a crying baby

New paernts can get frustrated when their newborn gets fussy and can't settle down. When you're feeling overwhelmed, try some of these simple tips to help soothe your baby.

20 baby names that are becoming more popular every year

The data-lovers at nameberry.com have been at it again – this time, they’ve discovered the names that are continually rising up the ranks, ready to take out some top spots in the next few years.

10 great meals to make for new parents

Ideally, you want to give food that isn’t expensive to make, isn't too difficult to create, and freezes well; stews, bakes, soups and pasta sauces are perfect.

'It's not you, it's me': Boston bombing survivor mum to have leg amputated

Rebekah DiMartino is going through a break-up. She even wrote a farewell love letter. But it's not to her husband.

What it's like to go through early menopause

In a cruel twist, Carla had been breastfeeding and perimenopausal at the same time. But she's far from the only one to go through menopause early.

Restaurant served alcohol to two-year-old

Busy restaurants can be forgiven for getting food and drink orders mixed up from time to time, but not when the confusion leads to a two-year-old being served an alcoholic cocktail instead of the child-friendly beverage they ordered.

Julia Morris tells of miscarriage on a flight

Julia Morris has spoken about the devastation of suffering a miscarriage while on an international flight.

Woman's survival after birth 'a story of two miracles'

A US mother is home and tending to her new baby less than a month after surviving without a pulse for 45 minutes.

Eating ice may give mental boost to the iron deficient: study

A new study proposes that, like a strong cup of coffee, ice may give those with insufficient iron a much-needed mental boost.

Tiny lives in caring hands: Thank U NICU Day

Each year in Australia, over 40,000 newborns need the help of a special care nursery or neonatal intensive care unit. One day a year, the staff are honoured by the parents they help through those dark days.

I paid $50,000 to have a girl

This time my husband and I hadn't taken any chances. We had paid $50,000 and travelled 13,000 kilometres to make sure the baby growing inside me was female.

Weird pregnancy products

Some pregnancy products come to market and are just awesome. Others just leave you scratching your head.

Dear firstborn, I'm sorry

Being a first-time mum is tough for so many reasons – particularly because you really have no idea what you're doing.

A trace of sesame could kill my son

Helen Richardson son's had two anaphylactic reactions in a month. It's traumatic for everyone.

When you know before the test says yes

It wasn't a pregnancy test or missed period that told me I was pregnant with my second baby; it was too early for those things. A doner kebab told me I was going to be a mum again.

What not to do when your partner is in labour

Robbie Williams stole the show during his wife Ayda's labour, pretty much demonstrating everything on the "what not to do when your partner is in labour" list.

Best maternity swimwear and beach cover-ups

Thinking about a tropical babymoon but have nothing to wear? Here are some great swimwear and beach cover-up options for mums-to-be.

Dad breastfeeds his babies

Trevor Macdonald has now been pregnant twice, and is successfully breastfeeding his newest family member.

 

How many weeks til Christmas?

On your To-Do list

Get the "Santa" shopping done without the kids in tow.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.