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Poll: Nannies (147 member(s) have cast votes)

How do you feel about Abbott's plan?

  1. I fully support it (36 votes [24.49%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.49%

  2. I'm tentatively for it but would need to learn more (54 votes [36.73%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.73%

  3. It's not a good idea - I don't think so many people need nannies (10 votes [6.80%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.80%

  4. It's not a good idea - I don't think Australia can afford it (23 votes [15.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.65%

  5. I don't like it (for a reason not listed here) (20 votes [13.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.61%

  6. I don't know (4 votes [2.72%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.72%

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#51 wrong

Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:30 PM

QUOTE (Display anemone @ 30/03/2012, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
At present the rebate is a percentage of the fees, so 50 percent rebate for a nanny would cost more than child care centred or FDC. If the rebate was not a percentage but a rate, I agree, it would not cost anymore to fund a nanny.

You forgot about the $7,500/child/yr cap.

Edited by wrong, 30 March 2012 - 09:32 PM.


#52 wrong

Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:31 PM

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Edited by wrong, 30 March 2012 - 09:32 PM.


#53 bluecardigans

Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:38 PM

QUOTE (wrong @ 30/03/2012, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You forgot about the $7,500/child/yr cap.

True

#54 judy_

Posted 30 March 2012 - 10:51 PM

A Nanny subsidy would have been a godsend for me.

Over my last year of paid employment the only way I could manage my job was a 'dodgy' arrangement with a babysitter and a daycare centre.

At $75 a day for daycare (less 50%) plus a nanny for 3 hours at $60 a day who picked up my 6 year old from school (no after school care at the school) and then got the 3 year old at a reasonable hour..   and would put dinner on to start (I cooked it the night before and she cooked the rice, pasta or heated it).  No cleaning - I also had a cleaner.  It was very very expensive. But my kids loved my babysitter/nanny and she went out of her way to do activites/excursions every day.  she also took the 6 year old to after school activities.

But it was the only way I could do it, especially as I had to deliver the 6 year old to the door for 8.50 and no earlier!

Yes - my nanny was done on the sly, a uni student doing it for cash in hand.  legitimising the whole thing through registration and subsidy would actually tidy it all up.  And really a person who wants to look after kids to me is the best qualified person.  People actually have children (for life and 24 hours a day) with no training, no skills and quite often by accident!

#55 JRA

Posted 01 April 2012 - 03:53 PM

QUOTE
At present the rebate is a percentage of the fees, so 50 percent rebate for a nanny would cost more than child care centred or FDC. If the rebate was not a percentage but a rate, I agree, it would not cost anymore to fund a nanny.


Most people who work significant hours hit the 7.5K cap anyway, so I don't see that.
Yes, there are people now who have nannies and don't get the rebate, but I would be surprised if that number is really quite significant

#56 Lokum

Posted 01 April 2012 - 09:49 PM

The number might be more significant if CCR/CCB were available for nannies.

There are probably people using all sorts of cobbled together arrangements which are less than ideal, who would prefer a regularised situation.

Hell, there are probably women who would be more able to participate in the workforce (and therefore have better super) if more flexible and affordable childcare was available.

#57 kadoodle

Posted 02 April 2012 - 09:25 AM

QUOTE (Meelamay @ 30/03/2012, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't understand the argument that it would be more expensive for the government?

I thought his idea was to allow the current rates of CCB/CCTR to apply to nannies?  So, doesn't that mean that the cost to the government would be the same for each child regardless of the setting?

I also don't get the whole 'Abbott proposed it so I can't agree with it' frame of mind.  Either you think its a good policy or not.


On the surface it is an excellent policy.

But to be workable it would need to be:
-  means tested to parents earning under (at a guess) $200k,
- funded without removing funding from another area in need (which would mean a new tax/raising taxes)
- regulated and staffed by relevant professionals
- pay and conditions monitered
- not just a vote-grabbing sound-bite with no hope of ever seeing the light of day.

I loved the flexability of employing a nanny.  My kids loved having someone who could look after them in the comfort of their own home.  It was very helpful in allowing DH and I to advance our careers post-childbirth.

If Tony Abbott actually brings a workable version of this scheme into being, however, I will tapdance naked on the roof of Parliament house.

#58 Hayleymumof3

Posted 02 April 2012 - 09:57 PM

QUOTE
If Tony Abbott actually brings a workable version of this scheme into being, however, I will tapdance naked on the roof of Parliament house.


Kadoodle stop teasing me, I may be tempted to vote for Abbott just to see that tongue.gif

#59 Bella Gs mum

Posted 05 April 2012 - 02:50 PM

The best thing about this issue is that both parties seem to agree that more support for working mums is a great idea, even if neither is proposing definitive solution.

I tried to fairly represent all sides of this debate this week here on my Working Mums Australia blog  http://wp.me/p23TNb-55.  It's a tough issue!

Kirsten




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