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#26 wishing wish

Posted 03 April 2012 - 10:51 AM

I am a kindergarten teacher working a centre that also provides a Long Day Early Learning program.

we have one room that offers a sessional kindergarten program with two groups of 4 year olds each going two days and a 3 year old kindergarten program (however this program is only run for 2.5 hours a week and for the cost families would be better off sending thier child to the Long Day Early learning program)

Then we offer a kindergarten program in our Long day early learning program a room of 3-5 year olds, I teach 5 days a week from 8.00am - 1pm, parents can then choose three days a week (any days that they like) and this covers the 15 hours! Then children can stay on for the afternoon and are charged for an afternoon place in the Long Day Early learning program. Meaning that working parents do not have to find someone to pick up thier child in the middle of the day.

With all the changes to the Early Learning Curriculums in Victoria this year we are in the exciting postition to say that the 'Kindergarten' and 'Day care' programs are the same, the new early learning frameworks do not distinguish between the curriculums offered in 'kindergarten or 'daycare', teachers all work within the same frameworks no matter what age or stage you work with...

While challenging and confusing to explain.... Due to many kindergartens running the same program time for the last 20 years.... and the need to chage the perceptions and understanding of a community...I think it is very exciting and great that children no matter where they go and what hours they do will all be part of a wonderful curriculum.

#27 libbylu

Posted 03 April 2012 - 10:59 AM

They are likely to do 5 hours over three days.  The kids won't be in groups so the kids will be mixed across days.  i.e. parents will be able to choose which three days they prefer, with some getting their preferences and others getting whatever days are available.
Our kinder is actually a long day care centre but the kinder teacher only works in the room currently for 6 hours per day, 5 days per week, and most kids are only offered 2 days to start with, though quite a few children already enrolled in the centre previously were getting three anyway- so up til now most kids have had two days of kinder - 12 hours over the two days.
The upshot is that fewer places will be offered as each child will have to do three days.

#28 sparkle77

Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:48 PM

In the ACT our 4yo preschool already offers 15 hr programs, on a 5 day fortnight, 9-3 normal school hours.  Each room has 2 groups, MT/MTW or WTF/TF.  It is fully subsidised ie no compulsory fees at all, $200 voluntary contribution per year.

#29 jm3

Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:58 PM

Our kindy is 9-3 Mon/Wed and 12 - 3 Fri or 9-3 Tue/Thu and 9-12 Fri.

#30 IsolaBella

Posted 19 April 2012 - 06:08 PM

In Vic here.

Our Kindy used to have 3 x 3yo classes (1 day a week) and 3 x 4yo classes (2 x 2 days and 1 x 3 days).

They have cut out one of the 3yo classes so now only have 2 x 3yo classes and 3 x 4yo classes (2 x 3 days and 1 x 2 days). 4yo hours 8.30am -3pm.

I don't know what the mix will be like next year.

Oh yeah, our fees are $720 per term for Kinder - community run (so looking forward to DS2 joining DS1 at school as fees are only $125 per term for extra children in the family).



#31 UpsyDaisy

Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:29 PM

I'm in VIC.

My DD's Kinder implemented a trial class consisting of 15 hours per week this year. The Kinder has 2 x 4 yo classes, 1 room, 2 x full-time Kinder teachers, and 1 x assistance. They also have a 3 yo group.

Last year (my other DD went to this Kinder) was only 11.25 hours per week over 3 days with the same teachers, but 3 x 4 yo groups and no 3 yo groups.

My DD's hours this year are:

Mon - 8.30 - 12.00
Wed - 8.30  - 2.15
Fri - 8.30 - 2.15

In regards to costs, last year there was no cost to Health Care Card and Pension Card holders. This year you pay the gap, so it cost me $30 for first term, and $80 for 2nd term. I pay for the extra regardless. DD doesn't go on Mondays, as I have no-one to drop her off or pick her up, so she is in long day care instead.


#32 liveworkplay

Posted 23 April 2012 - 02:46 PM

Our kinder changed this year. We only have one kinder room (although vbery large) and two calsses. Both classes attend now on a Wednesday with 2x teachers and 2x teachers aids. Our kinders are all attached to schools here so they get around a big class by having all their specialist subjects (PE, Music, Drama, Library) on this day.

Kinder here is just like school, "free" in the public system and your local school must have a spot for you, fee paying in the private system. We pay just over $1000 a year at our catholic school. But, as out kindergarden is a regostered childcarer, part of that fee is subject to CCR and CCB.

#33 maggi

Posted 28 May 2012 - 11:38 AM

I posted this question the other day, and I thought I would  run it past again, our centre is introducing this next year being 3 days of 5hrs per day.
I work 2days as it is and I am thinking if my son is in childcare 2days a week  and  then kinder 3 days a week he will be exhausted. ( I was hoping the 15hrs could be 2days a week and then he would have a day off )
Does anyone know if its possible that he can do 2 days at kinder  (so 10hrs ) and then when he goes to childcare he can do the kinder programme there. Am I paying more or how would that work or can he just do 10hrs of kinder and still do the normal childcare 2daysa  week and I pay normal childcare fees..  
I am,guessing some of you will say its not fare on a child who may be able to go to kinder 3days a week and I may be taking there position  ..


#34 spersephone

Posted 28 May 2012 - 12:36 PM

You've answered your own question really, it's not fair to the kinder to cut the hours that your child attends, and not be able to make up that funding with another child (as no-one's going to send their child for just 5 hours).  So alternatively, you pay the full amount, and don't send your child one of the days (but do explain to the teacher what you're doing).

Our kinder makes almost no money, and we certainly can't afford to get even less.  The only way we manage to survive is through fundraising, so every little bit helps.




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