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#1 sophiasmum

Posted 24 March 2012 - 11:10 AM

(Sorry for the new thread, but I am having a lot of trouble posting in the other cooktop thread this morning).

For those with induction cooktops, many recommend Electrolux or Smeg. What about Fisher & Paykel, any good? I've seen a good deal....

Edited by sophiasmum, 04 April 2012 - 05:26 PM.


#2 sophiasmum

Posted 25 March 2012 - 10:11 AM

I can't believe no one has any recommendations  sad.gif

#3 TheGreenSheep

Posted 25 March 2012 - 10:27 AM

Oh that's a shame. I have another brand altogether, so can't comment. My suggestion is to try the whirlpool forums, they have lots of consumer Questions about induction cooktops. GL

#4 Burro

Posted 25 March 2012 - 10:56 AM

I'm bumping this because after the other thread I'd decided on an induction cook top and I hate the whirlpool forums.
Anyone?

#5 sophiasmum

Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:13 PM

So what is your brand TheGreenSheep & are you happy with it?

I just found out from our kitchen people that if I get a larger than standard 60cm cooktop I'll need a 90cm rangehood & I don't really want to do that (lose cupboard space above). So back to 60cm recommendations....

#6 TheGreenSheep

Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:42 PM

I have a 90cm Siemens. I have been v.happy with it! Although I know you aren't able to have 90cm. It's recessed I to the bench, so it's prefectly flat, no ridge around it to catch food or splatter and have to clean around. it had a 5yr guarantee. It had a timer function. Great layout of cooking zones.

At the time (2years ago) I was contemplating Siemens, Miele, Bosch, and F&P. Have to say I've not regretted my decision.

#7 Amanda_R

Posted 25 March 2012 - 12:43 PM

I haven't used their induction cooktops but two of the most reliable brands in home appliances are Miele and Bosch.  I opted for Bosch appliances because they are more affordable than Miele, and so far I'm more than happy.  If I had more room in the budget I would have gone for Miele though.

I don't like Smeg as a general rule (overpriced, products aren't great, might as well get their cheaper Omega brand), and there are numerous reasons why I don't like Electrolux and any of it's other brands (Simpson, Dishlex, and so on), so I tend to avoid them.  Fisher & Paykel I think even less of than Smeg and Electrolux (I find those two tolerable and may purchase if required, but F&P I will never buy unless something drastically changes with their products).

I would personally opt for a Miele induction cooktop if you can afford it, they make fantastic products, incredibly functional, effective at what they are supposed to do, and the products themselves are very reliable.  Otherwise I'd look at Bosch, or maybe Blanco.  All of those before the Electrolux I think.  If the choice was only between Smeg and Electrolux I'd pick Electrolux purely because they are cheaper and aren't *terrible* products.

Edited by Amanda_R, 25 March 2012 - 12:44 PM.


#8 hopeful81

Posted 25 March 2012 - 03:23 PM

We bought a cheap one (Omega?) for two different houses (3 years apart) and have been more than happy with both induction cooktops - performance, cleaning etc.

HTH

#9 YodaTheWrinkledOne

Posted 25 March 2012 - 05:41 PM

I would look at Miele, Bosch and Electrolux.  The first two brands because they are known to produce reliable kitchen appliances.  I know Miele have a good name with induction cookers.  I haven't heard quite so much about Bosch, but they are well known for other cooktops and ovens, so I would expect them to put out a decent induction.  I would also consider Electrolux because quite a bit of effort was put into the development of their induction cooktops (as I understand it, they saw it is an opportunity to gain more of a reputation to be taken as a 'serious' kitchen supplier).  I'm also swayed by the endorsement of Tetsuya Wakuda, who has installed Electolux induction cooktops in his home kitchen, as well as in some of his restaurants.

The best way to check them out is to go into a showroom, ask and get the brochures and do the comparisons.  I don't think you're really going to go too wrong with those 3 brands.  It also comes down to what styling you like on a cooktop as well.  Plus, your budget.

#10 AggyW72

Posted 25 March 2012 - 05:46 PM

Hi, we put in a De Dietrich - they are the French company who pioneered induction technology. We love it but the circuit board has needed repairs twice under warranty. Seems to be filed properly now. We absolutely love it and would still recommend the brand. Very expensive but kitchen appliances are worth it IMO. Otherwise I know that Miele induction are very good.
Enjoy!!

#11 FEdeRAL

Posted 25 March 2012 - 09:03 PM

We have a Miele induction cooktop which we are very happy with. Personally I would never go with Smeg again. We put in Smeg oven, cooktop and dishwasher when renovating the kitchen in our previous house and found them to be very average in built and performance.

There are obligation free cooking demos you can attend to help you decide which brand to choose from. Miele charges a fee to attend though.

Smeg

Miele

Fisher & Paykel

Electrolux

#12 bakesgirls

Posted 25 March 2012 - 10:11 PM

We have a Miele induction and I would recommend it to anyone.

Slightly off topic- I have heard though, (not sure if it's true) that people with a pacemaker should avoid them, they create heat with electromagnetics. Just a thought if you know anyone with one that may go to your house.

#13 Owl_Little_Girls

Posted 25 March 2012 - 10:15 PM

My parents had one put into their kitchen and my mum loved hers. I think it is a Miele.

#14 sophiasmum

Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:08 PM

Thanks for the helpful replies everyone!

Unfortunately I can't justify a Miele, so I have chosen a Bosch, now just to negotiate the best price wink.gif

#15 brindle

Posted 26 March 2012 - 12:13 PM

I have the Bosch one. LOVE, LOVE, LOVE.
We have had it for 2.5 years - no problems. So easy to clean and so easy for cooking.


#16 Amanda_R

Posted 26 March 2012 - 05:50 PM

QUOTE (bakesgirls @ 25/03/2012, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Slightly off topic- I have heard though, (not sure if it's true) that people with a pacemaker should avoid them, they create heat with electromagnetics. Just a thought if you know anyone with one that may go to your house.

That was true the last time I checked, but I'm not sure if things have changed recently.

#17 sophiasmum

Posted 31 March 2012 - 04:03 PM

OK, new issue new question.

Have just been told about 1phase, 2 phase, 3 phase & 4phase electricity. That is, the number of power lines connecting house to street. We have 2phase. Harvey Norman tell me all their induction cooktops are 3phase. But the Bosch website specs for the model I want say 1phase or 2phase. So who to believe? Waiting for electrician to call me back tomorrow night. Has anyone had this issue and what did you do?

#18 BVB09

Posted 31 March 2012 - 04:26 PM

Sorry OP, but I am a gas cooktop GAL !

Edited by Sim 74, 31 March 2012 - 04:29 PM.


#19 Amanda_R

Posted 31 March 2012 - 06:42 PM

QUOTE (sophiasmum @ 31/03/2012, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OK, new issue new question.

Have just been told about 1phase, 2 phase, 3 phase & 4phase electricity. That is, the number of power lines connecting house to street. We have 2phase. Harvey Norman tell me all their induction cooktops are 3phase. But the Bosch website specs for the model I want say 1phase or 2phase. So who to believe? Waiting for electrician to call me back tomorrow night. Has anyone had this issue and what did you do?

You will most likely fine with what you've got.  Induction cooktops do draw more power than electric and even though it's said they need 3-phase they don't always, it depends on the overall draw on the house itself.  If you've got a lot of appliances that have a high draw that you'll be using more than once, then sometimes you need more power coming in, but in most instances single phase is fine.

Personally I find Harvey Norman and a lot of other sales people have a very slim (to zero, depending on the department) knowledge of the actual products they are selling.  They have taken a generality and are spouting it as fact for every product and it's simply not the case.  It depends on the individual product and the house it's going into.  If Bosch tell you it's single or 2-phase then that's what I'd be going with.

If you can download the handbook for the cooktop (available from the Bosch website) and have that on hand when you talk to the electrician (or if he comes to the house) he'll be able to tell you for sure.  But unless you already have a lot of power hungry appliances (in which case you'd probably have already encountered issues), then I doubt you will need to change anything within your house.

#20 sophiasmum

Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:34 PM

Thanks for replying Amanda original.gif

Yes I spoke to a guy at Bunnings this morning - because they also sell an induction cooktop - and he explained it's nothing to do with the power from the street it's the amount of amps we have from our electricity box. As you explained above. So I'll get the electrician to check when he comes this week. When we moved into this house a few years ago we had a sparky add amps because we had a lot of appliances which the old owner did not & things were cutting out. I just don't want to spend all this money on the wrong appliance from making a bad decision or choice. I didn't know it was going to be this complicated  rolleyes.gif

#21 Daisy Goat

Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:49 PM

We have  recently had  a Smeg induction cooktop with electric oven installed. We have 3 phase to the house. BUT you still ned to have an increased amp to the oven/cooktop for the induction.

You need a much higher amapge from your power box to the oven that any normal powerpoint has. So you need an electrician to do that as well as the install. We were lucky that our power box was relatively near the kitchen as you pay by meterage for the wiring

#22 sophiasmum

Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:25 PM

I hate to keep rehashing this thread. Sorry!

Electrician said $400, so unfortunately Bosch is out of price range now.

What about Ilve, anyone?

Edited by sophiasmum, 04 April 2012 - 06:57 PM.


#23 Daisy Goat

Posted 04 April 2012 - 05:37 PM

I tis still going to cost at least $400 to install no matter which brand you purchase.

You do realise that in all likelihood you will need to replace ALL your cookware too don't you?

I did well at the time and bought from Home Depot online a set of Jamie Oliver Anodised Induction cook wear for only $395 delivered
But the same items individually from Myer or such are over $1000.

So check you current cookware- all you need to do is get a magnet and if the magnet sticks to the bottom it is OK for induction. Otherwise you cannot use it at all

It is quite an investment to change to Induction  when you add cookware and installation costs so  dropping to a lower brand seems silly to me

Edited by Daisy Goat, 04 April 2012 - 05:38 PM.


#24 sophiasmum

Posted 04 April 2012 - 07:00 PM

Yes it will cost $400 no matter which we choose.

And I've bought a Circulon set for $300.

Why does dropping to a lower brand seem silly? All I've done is realise Bosch is out of my price range so I'm trying to find the best in a lower price range? Given there are soooo many brands out there I'm finding it very hard to choose.




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