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#51 FeralRebelWClaws

Posted 01 April 2012 - 07:10 PM

My choice was a sandwich that had a sugary relish or a chocolate... so I had neither. It was fine, I had something when I got home.

But I found skipping meals = bad things, but that is gall bladder related.  But that is based on one episode!

#52 catmeow82

Posted 01 April 2012 - 07:39 PM

I think that is where i am hyperprepared!!!!! I always have something in my bag that i can eat. it comes from having kids i guess. right now in my bag i have an aldi nut bar (the hillcrest nut delight bars), dextrose lollies (ds is toilet training and needs a lot of encouragement) and a small container of peanuts. oh and a little bit of dextrose powder for if my coffee needs it.
the nappy bag has snack pack of chips, snack pack of popcorn, the lowest sugar muesli bar i could find (coles brand... taste ok but not for me... more as a back up for the kids) and plain milk popper.
if i'm not prepared i end up spending too much on things when we are out.

#53 samanthan

Posted 01 April 2012 - 08:14 PM

Hi all, can I join in? I'm going to try and read back gradually but thought I'd jump in...
I have been toying with this on and off for a few months. I've been on a diet pretty much since I was 18 and I'm now 33 and weigh the same as I did then.... I was doing the 1 million kg challenge and as with every diet, it worked for a few weeks and then got too hard. I heard David Gillespie on the radio talking about his new book (it was on radio national last Monday night and is on podcast) and read some more... and we're in! DH is doing it too, not that he has to.
We're going to gradually work our way in. I haven't bought the books but am looking at Sarah Wilson's site so might do that. Just really wary of another fad so kind of want to do it my own way. I did the groceries yesterday and for the first time in forever bought full fat cheese and milk, butter and cream. Will take some getting used to! So anyway, will read back but very excited to find a support thread!

#54 FeralRebelWClaws

Posted 01 April 2012 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE (catmeow82 @ 01/04/2012, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that is where i am hyperprepared!!!!! I always have something in my bag that i can eat.


I had stuff in my bag, but it was too arduous to get up out of the seat on the plane... it was only a 40 min flight. I had some snacks while waiting for the plane at the airport. I always carry something with me now too!

#55 FeralSchnitzel

Posted 03 April 2012 - 01:13 PM

Anyone have any great birthday cake recipes they can share?


#56 FeralRebelWClaws

Posted 03 April 2012 - 05:53 PM

I made my easy lemon cake sugar free this arvo and it tasted exactly like it normally does! I am going to have a go of lemon cream cheese icing to go with it!

I've discovered that my taste buds don't like cocoa and dextrose together. It's not that the dextrose isn't sweet enough, but it ends up tasting really sweet and weird, to me! The lemon cake is AWESOME though! Exactly how it is with sugar original.gif

I'm about to make the icing... I'll bbiab, if you want the recipe let me know original.gif

#57 TheGreenSheep

Posted 03 April 2012 - 08:23 PM

QUOTE (PussyDids @ 03/04/2012, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I made my easy lemon cake sugar free


I'm about to make the icing... I'll bbiab, if you want the recipe let me know original.gif



Yes please! I love tart cakes etc.

Welcome samanthan and your DH!

I have been reading and not posting much. The guilt over eating chocolate Easter eggs  rolleyes.gif So I have a filthy cold/virus and AF and I just thought eff it, nows the time if anytime was the 'right' time to snaffle some of the kids Easter eggs and well tbh I wasn't impressed. Maybe I can't taste much, but after eating a handful I'm not tempted again. I hope.

How is everyone else coping with avoiding the Easter chocathon?

#58 FeralRebelWClaws

Posted 03 April 2012 - 08:35 PM

Ok, I made the lemon cream cheese icing and iced them, and shared one with Mum, yummy!!!!

Easy Lemon Cake
1/2 cup butter
1 1/2 cups SR flour
1 cup dextrose
rind of 1 lemon
3/4 cup milk (in the normal recipe that is 1/2 cup, but it needed the extra liquid for the dextrose!)
2 eggs beaten

Method:
* Melt butter and allow to cool
* Add butter to rest of ingredients
* Beat on medium for 5 minutes, mixture should be like a whipped consistency.
* Cook on 160 for around 20mins. Check for when they spring back or are browning. (I started checking at 15mins)

This made 18 decent cupcakes (in texas muffin tray size). Mine were really flat. Or you can make a thin 9" or a thicker 8" round.

Lemon Cream Cheese Icing
(this is my modification of a recipe posted on the Sweet Poison FB page)
* 120gm cream cheese
* 60gm butter
* 1 1/2 cup dextrose (original recipe calls for 2 cups, but I found 1 1/2 sweet enough, so you can check what you prefer!)
* Juice of 1 lemon (maybe more depending on how juicy the lemon is!)

Method:
Cream butter and cream cheese. Add dextrose slowly, then lemon juice. Consistency should be spreadable.

Edited by PussyDids, 03 April 2012 - 08:36 PM.


#59 TheGreenSheep

Posted 03 April 2012 - 08:43 PM

Thanks pussydids, I'll give it a go!

#60 LoveMy3Kids

Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:41 PM

Is the Bulla ice cream the one in the blue container? If so, I noticed after examining the ingredients really closely that the first 2 ingredients are fresh whole milk and liquid sugar. I didn't see them at first as they are around the corner from the remainder of the ingredients. I hope this isn't the one you were talking about as it is so delish!

All's going well here. We're not doing Easter for us this year, just the kids. I've bought them a carton of eggs to share so they can have a small amount of chocolate at once and only a few eggs in total. I was going to buy sugar free ones but couldn't decide what was worse for them - the fructose or the artificial sweeteners. In the end I went with the fructose.

Willanddaisysmum, if you're insulan resistant and have PCOS you'd benefit from eating LCHF (start here for some great info http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf) Eating this way keeps your blood sugar at a constant level, therefore your body doesn't need to produce insulin. I eat this way and feel better than I have in years. It does turn everything you've ever learnt about nutrition on it's head though so please read with an open mind. It's a great natural progression from going sugar free.



#61 FeralSchnitzel

Posted 04 April 2012 - 06:17 AM

Thanks so much for the recipe Pussydids, I've not ventured into dextrose yet but I have found chocolate natvia stuff pretty awful. I love a good lemon cake original.gif I've also since found the Sarah Wilson cheesecake which looks pretty good too. LOL, would it be wrong to go without all sugar, including fruit for 3 weeks, and then have 2 birthday cakes?

Lovemy3kids, I think you might have me mistaken with mum2jp, but thank you for the link anyway. I'm a naturopathy student and am a bit (a lot) of a nutrition nerd, so I'm always up for new information  biggrin.gif



#62 désir d'amour

Posted 04 April 2012 - 08:46 AM

QUOTE (LoveMy3Kids @ 03/04/2012, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is the Bulla ice cream the one in the blue container? If so, I noticed after examining the ingredients really closely that the first 2 ingredients are fresh whole milk and liquid sugar. I didn't see them at first as they are around the corner from the remainder of the ingredients. I hope this isn't the one you were talking about as it is so delish!



Oh dear god.  Please say this isn't so! I'll have to check next time we go to the shops.  I've been going off the list of ingredients in big type down the front which doesn't have any fructose based sugars.  I'm going to be full of sads if it is a liquid fructose.   I went straight to the bulla site and their spec sheet concurs with you, but I'm sure I never saw it originally!


I'm avoiding easter chocolate by eating easter buns Tounge1.gif  I know they're just as bad, but I can stop more easily after 1 as my body recognises all the bread fibres and goes "WOAH THERE NELLY".  It's closer to being real food, and I think they're yummier than the chocolates anyway!

#63 drphillskaren

Posted 04 April 2012 - 10:24 AM

I am coping with easter by only having 70% dark chocolate.  This way its more decadent and i only eat a teeny bit.....

no hot cross buns for me!!!! not so far anyway!

#64 désir d'amour

Posted 04 April 2012 - 12:58 PM

OH NOES!


You were right.  Bulla were SNEAKY BUGGERS and hid the sugar around the corner of the label, not where the rest of the ingredients were.

Dangit.  Back to double cream  (Not a fate worse than death, it must be said...)

#65 FeralSchnitzel

Posted 04 April 2012 - 03:12 PM

I'm going to try this recipe tomorrow, subbing agave for rice malt syrup. Can't wait!

#66 désir d'amour

Posted 04 April 2012 - 03:57 PM

I'm contemplating simply putting tubs of double cream in the freezer. that'll be like icecream, right?

#67 FeralSchnitzel

Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:09 PM

Um. I think it would be a little too icy. Also, freezing reduces the flavour and sweetness of foods, so I would worry it'd be a bit tasteless. Maybe add some vanilla bean and a few drops of stevia before you freeze it?

#68 LoveMy3Kids

Posted 04 April 2012 - 04:32 PM

sad.gif I hoped I had the wrong sort of ice cream. Back to making my own with dextrose. At least there is an alternative.

#69 Loveyourwork

Posted 04 April 2012 - 08:12 PM

Does anyone know if Loving Earth chocolate is allowed? When I enquired at the health shop, the attendant said that one variety has no fructose, but agave. I know agave isn't recommended, so I steered clear of that one.

We then found a variety (Organic Coconut Mylk) which is 53% raw cacao, sweetened with organic evaporated coconut nectar. There is no agave or other sweeteners on the ingredients list.
Is this ok?

#70 catmeow82

Posted 04 April 2012 - 08:34 PM

sexycat - yeah it would freeze ok but prob no flavour. even just some vanilla would do. just try one tub at a time. maybe freeze in single serves... it is hard to scoop!

#71 LoveMy3Kids

Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:25 PM

Loveyourwork - I'm pretty sure the evaporated coconut nectar is coconut sugar, which contains fructose.

#72 1/2aDozen

Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:56 PM

Howdy... Just wondering if you sugar-free girls use xylitol at all as an alternative?

Also, why not Agave Syrup in preference to Rice Malt Syrup?  I was told by my health shop guru that the rice one is a higher GI than agave.

Informative reading, thanks!

#73 FeralSchnitzel

Posted 05 April 2012 - 06:28 AM

1/2adozen, I think the key is to understand the metabolism of different types of sugars, what the end metabolites are, and how those effect your body, rather than opting for natural, sugar-free or low-GI for example. The aim of the Sweet Poison plan is to avoid fructose specifically, and as such, you can eat pure glucose, but sugars that contain or are metabolised to fructose are not OK. This isn't necessarily about the "healthiness" or nutrient content of the sugar replacement you are using.

Xylitol for example metabolises to a substance that acts just like fructose and is therefore out. Erythritol, however, is a good alternative because it is metabolised differently by the body. Natvia, available at Safeway, is a blend of stevia and Erythritol.

Agave is very high in fructose, and therefore out, just as fruit juice concentrates, dehydrated sugar cane juice, coconut palm sugar all are as well. Pure rice malt syrup, however, is fructose free and OK. In the Sweet Poison Quit Plan there is a list of all the ingredients to avoid, if that's helpful.

Loveyourwork, I am pretty sure coconut nectar is the sap of the coconut flower, and contains about 1.5% fructose. It is the same thing as coconut sugar, just a different name.

Edited by willanddaisysmum, 05 April 2012 - 06:33 AM.


#74 FeralRebelWClaws

Posted 05 April 2012 - 08:41 AM

oh noes bulla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *crieS*

Actually, I'm not that fussed, I hard eat ice cream anymore LOL I have had a 2L container of it 4 weeks and it's still more than 1/2 full.

What about this with dextrose instead of caster sugar?

#75 désir d'amour

Posted 05 April 2012 - 08:53 AM

I'm so sorry Pussydid sad.gif I have been leading everyone astray because BULLA IS TEH SNEAKIES!!!

The being said, we haven't had it here for about 3 weeks anyway and DH has come off his plateau and started losing weight again. coincidence anyone? lol

I personally seem to be done with weight loss. I took an adventure down to 52.5 the other day, but i'm back up at 53.  I suspect that was the "not eating because i'm dying of man flu" more than anything.  

On the upside, the manflu only lasted 3 days, and the person I got it off is still trying to shake it off, so I'm reasonably pleased - it appears fructose free won't stop me from getting sick, but it'll mend me up nice and fast.  I'll take it!




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