Jump to content

stitches/tearing etc


  • Please log in to reply
14 replies to this topic

#1 LouChoo

Posted 13 March 2012 - 09:11 PM

Hi

this is my first time on here. My DD is 6 months old and I'm just wondering how you know whether what kind of tear (3rd degree etc) you had?  My OB didn't explainn anything to me, and being my first baby I didn't know to ask.
I was induced and baby delivered by ventouse. I was bruised completely....black everywhere, each time a new midwife came on, it would be 'oh, I;ve heard about your bruising'.  On inspection (as well as I can see anyway) I'm pretty sure I tore all the way to my bum...and haven't contemplated sex yet.
So, am I better to not know, or should I find out? Idon;t know if I could go through what I did again, but with Caesarian only other option, I don;t know what would be better.
thanks for reading.

#2 munchmum

Posted 13 March 2012 - 09:27 PM

It should be on your birth summary you got from the hospital/ob It's your right to ask for this if you don't have it. And It's definitely best to know what happened in my opinion.

#3 Paddlepop

Posted 13 March 2012 - 10:13 PM

I'm very surprised that your OB didn't tell you what type of tearing you had. It should be on your discharge summary from the hospital, or possibly in your Child Health Record book (Red Book in Qld, Blue Book in other states?). If you had a private OB you might be able to ring him/her and find out, and if you were in the public system it might be easiest to get your GP to find out for you. Either way, your GP should be able to find out for you or might already have it in their notes.

TMI warning for anyone who is squeamish: I would guess that you had a third degree tear. I had a fourth degree tear which involves tearing the anal sphincter. That is, the muscle of your bottom hole. I was "lucky" because mine only partially tore. I had a forceps delivery due to a dangerous blood pressure spike after induction for pre-eclampsia. If you had a 4th degree tear you would probably have numbness around your bottom which you would notice when pooing and not being sure when you are finished pooing. It took about 4 months before I had proper sensation again there.

If you had a 4th degree tear you should have been seen by a continence nurse to make sure that you had good bladder and bowel control and weren't wetting or soiling yourself. I was also given a physio appointment to check that my vaginal and pelvic strength had returned but cancelled it because I had no issues and recovered very well.

You should find out what type of tearing you had, and why you were so badly bruised. It will be important when considering what type of delivery would be best if/when you are pregnant again, and just for your own peace of mind. Personally, I am strongly considering a C-section when I have another baby because I don't want to risk tearing so badly again and suffering the horrible complications like bladder or bowel incontinence, painful sex or other conditions that I was lucky enough to escape this time. Also, my daughter had a big head, and so does my husband (he was ventouse) so I suspect any future children will also have big heads.

If you still have pain from your scarring, it may need to be redone by an Ob/Gyn. Sometimes the original stitching just isn't right.

I hope this helps, and you are feeling better soon.

#4 Chelly_M

Posted 13 March 2012 - 10:29 PM

I don't know what degree of tearing I had either. I was told I tore up to, but not including my bottom,thankfully, so of course had stitches and was badly bruised. Had ice packs around the clock and physiotherapy with ultrasound to help with bruising whilst in hospital. My problem was caused by a very speedy delivery, which resulted in my birthing dd's head unassisted. Anyway, everything was fine at the 6 week check up, but didn't have sex for probably 3 months, I think. But, it was fine when we finally did. Pregnant again now and this time round, my plan is to get to the hospital much earlier biggrin.gif  Don't know if my chances of tearing again are increased or not, but what will be will be.

#5 LouChoo

Posted 14 March 2012 - 07:45 AM

thanks everyone, now I've read what you have all written and I'm actually quite annoyed- - I didn't get anything when I was discharged, and at my 6 week check (which ended up being 9 becuase OB so booked out) he didn;t even look at anything.  We just had a chat, and he wasn't even the OB that delivered my baby....he ended up being away at my due date so I had another OB from the practice that I met the morning I was induced.
Thanks, I'm going to give them a call.

#6 Carmen02

Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:13 AM

with my 1st i never got told the degree of tear i had, i know it was quite bad and i bruised badly as well as needing icepacks and ice pads for ages. I never found out (was almost 10yrs ago) as the Doctor that did it was another doc that was called in as my Doctor wasnt quailfied to do vaccum/forcep delievery i needed so he stitched me up.  She had a big head! lol With my 2nd I only tore slightly I didnt need stitches at all original.gif and he was my biggest!  and my 3rd was a super fast labour and no tearing what so ever. I thought ill add that as I did have a shocking tear the first time but the 2nd was only slight original.gif

#7 LouChoo

Posted 15 March 2012 - 07:41 AM

QUOTE (Carmen02 @ 14/03/2012, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
with my 1st i never got told the degree of tear i had, i know it was quite bad and i bruised badly as well as needing icepacks and ice pads for ages. I never found out (was almost 10yrs ago) as the Doctor that did it was another doc that was called in as my Doctor wasnt quailfied to do vaccum/forcep delievery i needed so he stitched me up. She had a big head! lol With my 2nd I only tore slightly I didnt need stitches at all original.gif and he was my biggest! and my 3rd was a super fast labour and no tearing what so ever. I thought ill add that as I did have a shocking tear the first time but the 2nd was only slight original.gif



oh, so many ice packs! I know the first is generally the worst, but mine was horrible....not a small head, good to know your subsequent ones were like that, thanks

#8 Soontobegran

Posted 15 March 2012 - 07:54 AM

You can have significant bruising even if you don't tear or have an episiotomy so you may have just had a tear and unless there was anything 'different' or worrying about the tear they don't often go into too much detail with you other than ice packs/pain relief etc.
If it had involved your anal sphincter you normally would have been given special warnings about your diet and your bowel actions. If you are still having problems with your perineum you should see your GP, if not then I'd presume all is healed well.

Lots of luck

#9 Lauren_b_

Posted 26 March 2012 - 03:11 PM

Hi all - I am new here and this is my first post.

I'm sorry to hear that you didnt get told much about your tearing, that's not the greatest service from your OB or hospital.

I had my 1st bubba 2 weeks ago and obtained a 3rd degree tear which resulted in going up to surgery to have my stiches done. Very overwhelming when you have just given birth.

I don't mean to butt in on your query here but I am worried about being intimiate with my husband again after this and was wondering if people wouldnt mind sharing how long after it took you to feel comforable to do so? I am still healing and don't want to do it anytime soon (still a month off the 6 weeks anyway!) but just some advice on this would be greatly appreciated  original.gif

#10 Paddlepop

Posted 26 March 2012 - 03:27 PM

Hi Lauren_b_: congrats on becoming a mum!

For me (see my post earlier in this thread) I had a 4th degree tear. I was very nervous about having sex again and was a bit scared. In the end at 8 weeks (I think) after giving birth we took the plunge and did it to get it over with because I was starting to dread it. I was greatly relieved to find it didn't hurt as much as I had feared. After a few months, very little pain at all, and a few more months and virtually back to normal.

Take it slowly, especially at the "start" IYKWIM, use plenty of lubricant if needed, and be as relaxed at possible. Be prepared to stop at anytime if it hurts, and try again another time. You might need to try different positions if any positions cause you pain. As long as you and husband approach sex as a team and possibly with a bit of sense of humour, you should be fine. Anyway, if your baby is anything like my DD he/she will wake up the moment anything starts to happen! Natural birth control I think!

Feel free to PM me if you have any other questions that you aren't comfortable asking here.

Hope that helps, and you are healing well.

#11 ~strawberry~

Posted 26 March 2012 - 05:03 PM

Check in the front of your blue book, I thought I wasn't given anything when I was discharged with my first but eventually found the discharge papers in the front pocket of DD's blue book. If not, contact the hospital for a copy of your birth notes. You may have to pay a small charge, but it will give you the info you need.

#12 Soontobegran

Posted 26 March 2012 - 05:16 PM

QUOTE (~strawberry~ @ 26/03/2012, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Check in the front of your blue book, I thought I wasn't given anything when I was discharged with my first but eventually found the discharge papers in the front pocket of DD's blue book. If not, contact the hospital for a copy of your birth notes. You may have to pay a small charge, but it will give you the info you need.



Really no need to go to the expense to apply for the hospital noted through FOI, the OP just needs to call her Obstetrician if her discharge notes don't include details of her perineal damage.
He should have it on his records.

#13 GoldenBlack

Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:35 PM

Another thing to be aware of is that hospitals do have slightly different definitions between each other for what counts as what degree of tearing - even if you'd think the definitions were fairly clear cut (as I did, initially!).

I had a tear listed as a second degree tear because it didn't tear through the sphincter - just around it both sides and on up continuing - and much deeper internally, intramuscular.

I also had to tell my doctor to look at it at my six week checkup - she wasn't going to.  I thought I had hemorrhoids due to all the large lumps and bumps.  Turned out that was just how severe all the scarring was, and she got a shock because she was expecting a second degree tear to be very different to what was there.

#14 allyire

Posted 29 March 2012 - 02:58 PM

I gave birth to DS1 in the US and was never told what 'degree' of tear I  had either (after reading descriptions I think it was probably 3rd). I had an episiotomy as well so lots of stitches.

Definitely get them to check you to  see that the healing is ok. I had to have the area cauterised a few times as there was too much scar tissue that was causing pain/irritation. It did eventually get back to normal though!

BTW, with DS2 I had no tearing whatsoever and a very quick recovery wink.gif

#15 Mummy Em

Posted 29 March 2012 - 03:05 PM

The way it was explained to me - first degree tear involves the skin of the perinium, second degree tear involves skin and muscle of the perinium/vagina, third degree involves anal sphincter muscle and fourth degree involves all that, plus tearing in the anal canal. Third and fourth degree are usually repaired in theatre under general or epidural anasthetic.

With sex, try not to pressure yourself, use lots of lube, tell your partner to be careful and you will tell him if you need to stop. If you have pain, go to the doctor as they may be able to give hormone vaginal suppository that might help, especially if you are breastfeeding.




2 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 2 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Win Coles Little Explorer nappies for your toddler

Introducing the new Coles Little Explorer Nappies! You can confidently rely on Coles Little Explorer nappies at each stage of your child's growth, so take the Big Nappy Change and try new Coles Little Explorer nappies for yourself!

Robbie Williams live tweets wife's labour

And the award for most patient woman in labour goes to ... Robbie Williams' wife, Ayda Field.

Vaccine ignorance is deadly and contagious

In the absence of credible, strong political leadership, paranoia about disease can go viral.

Parenting differently based on birth order

All children have unique personalities, but keeping birth order in mind could help when parenting.

How to get rid of the mum guilt

Motherhood and guilt seem to go hand in hand, but there are ways to focus

Paid parental leave scheme grinds to a halt

The future of Prime Minister Tony Abbott's paid parental leave scheme appears to be up in the air, despite the fact it is due to begin in less than nine months.

The devastation of foetal alcohol spectrum disorders

No one's sure how many Australians are affected by foetal alcohol spectrum disorders, but the consequences for those who are can be devastating.

The pros and cons of finding out the sex of your unborn baby

It’s often one of the biggest choices parents make during the course of their pregnancy; to find out, or not to find out, the sex of their baby before it’s born.

Toddler's awesome dress up month

Two-year-old Willow and her photographer mum, Gina Lee, made October "Dress Up Willow Month". She posted photos of Willow's costumes on her Instagram account, and her creative takes on popular culture are simply adorable.

Childhood around the world

It can be easy to assume our ideas around childhood are universal, but they are particular to where we live, as these practices show.

Best picks for baby and toddler shoes

Here's a great selection of footwear from pre-walker to walker ensuring comfort and style for growing feet.

I lost my wife and daughters to Ebola - then it came for my son

Sunday, September 21, is a day I will never forget.

The 'yucky' illness that took over my life

I have a chronic illness nobody likes to discuss. It involves toilet talk, and probably caused my miscarriage. But it needs to be talked about.

Prenatal testing: the facts

Prenatal testing is done to check if a baby has certain medical conditions before birth. Here is some important information about what the tests are for and the risks involved.

5 things to do with your baby?s old clothes

Did you think your only option for your baby?s old clothes was to pack them away or give them to the Salvos? Think again.

Why it's possible to not realise you're pregnant until the baby arrives

After hearing about 'surprise babies' born to mums who didn't know they were pregnant, it's common to ask "how did she not realise?" But experts say it's entirely possible for it to happen.

'My miracle is finally here'

How has the world continued on its pace when mine has been altered so drastically?

Dairy can help older women fall pregnant: study

Ice cream may be the ultimate comfort food, but a study suggests it could also help older women to have children.

Megan Gale goes topless for 'sexiest people' cover

Six months after a heavily pregnant Megan Gale posed nude for Marie Claire, the glowing new mum has gone topless for the cover of another magazine.

A new perspective on life from living with two diseases

A mother shares her personal story about the difficulty of living with two conditions, one of which stops her from being able to see her daughter's face.

Warning about Children's Panadol dosage

The Therapeutic Goods Administration has issued a safety advisory warning parents about confusion when using the dosing syringe supplied with Children's Panadol.

Download now: Essential Kids Activity Finder app

Got bored kids? Quickly find the best activities for kids wherever you are in Australia with the Essential Kids app.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Take 'The Coles Big Nappy Change' Challenge

You could become part of our Test Drive team and win one of 200 packs of Coles Little Explorer Nappies as part of our 5-day challenge.

Win 1 of 5 Canon Powershot D30 cameras

Capture life more easily with the Canon Powershot D30. Shockproof, waterproof and dustproof, you can take it almost anywhere and shoot beautiful images, time after time. Enter now!

16 parenting truths you won't find in the baby books

I am five years into this parenting gig and I’ve learnt that sleepless nights and changing dirty nappies are child’s play.

Best and worst potty party cakes

It's nice to celebrate a child making the shift from nappies to 'big kid' undies, but do we really need a semi-realistic used toilet cake to do it? Here are some of the best and worst cakes parents have used at 'potty parties' around the world.

7 tips for a financially festive Christmas

Plan ahead - and do it now - to ensure festive season expenses don't break the bank.

'Go the F*** to Sleep' author's new book for frustrated parents

A sequel is coming soon to the 2011 hit book 'Go the F*** to Sleep' - and this time, it's about mealtimes.

Great birthday party buys from Etsy

Handmade crafts to decorate and personalise your child's next birthday - from banners to cake decorations, we've got gorgeous party finds from Etsy.

Join us in The BIG nappy change

Introducing the new Coles Little Explorer Nappies! You can confidently rely on Coles Little Explorer nappies at each stage of your child's growth, so take the Big Nappy Change and try new Coles Little Explorer nappies for yourself!

Creative storage ideas for the kids' rooms

Creative and practical storage ideas for the kids' toys and books can also add some stylish decor to your home. Visit babyology.com.au for more stylish modern finds for hip kids & parents.

Weird trend

'Why we called our daughter Wyatt'

Ashton Kutcher has spoken about how he and Mila Kunis chose their daughter's name - and why they've set up her social media accounts.

To the mum in the doctor's waiting room

Maybe the mum I saw in that waiting room, seemingly disconnected from her baby, doesn’t have the support she needs.

10 space-saving nursery ideas

Starting a family doesn't always mean moving into a bigger house - not yet, anyway.

 

What's in a name?

Baby Names

Looking for a classic name, or an unusual name? Our Baby Name Finder is for you, search or browse to refine your shortlist.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.