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for people who do not vaccinate please


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#1 Angel_Eyes_2

Posted 09 March 2012 - 06:42 PM

Hi,

Do you allow the vit k to be given at birth if you choose to not vaccinate?

Thanks

#2 ScarfaceClaw

Posted 09 March 2012 - 06:45 PM

I chose to vaccinate, and chose oral Vit K following birth.

Next time I won't bother.


#3 Cat©

Posted 09 March 2012 - 06:49 PM

We chose oral vit K, we no longer vaccinate.

#4 ubermum

Posted 09 March 2012 - 07:10 PM

I do vaccinate, but will be choosing oral vitamin K for this baby and no hep B at birth.

#5 Angel_Eyes_2

Posted 10 March 2012 - 03:14 PM

Thanks for your replies.

Is vit K a form of vaccination?

#6 Guest_Hoggle_*

Posted 10 March 2012 - 03:19 PM

No it is a dose of vitamin K

#7 Futureself

Posted 10 March 2012 - 03:25 PM

QUOTE (Angel_Eyes_2 @ 10/03/2012, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is vit K a form of vaccination?

Well, no, it's a dose of Vitamin K which is to assist with blood clotting
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-suppleme...guide-vitamin-k

For the record I will be refusing Hep B at birth but will consent to Vit K (orally) or if the birth warrants it ie. forcep delivery then injection.

Edited by futureself, 10 March 2012 - 06:15 PM.


#8 Rainbow Brite

Posted 10 March 2012 - 03:27 PM

We chose to have the Vit K injection at birth, Hep B injection and he will be vaccinated at 6 weeks.



#9 shatavari

Posted 14 March 2012 - 05:13 PM

We didn't give the Vitamin K shot to either of our little ones. I did boost my Vitamin K intake in the weeks prior to birth, namely by having nettle tea and nettle tincture as part of my partus prep herb mix. I did however let my midwives know that if there were any specific indication for Vitamin K after birth then it was okay to give it...but as it turned out, it wasn't given so I guess they didn't think I had to. All best for your upcoming arrival!

#10 judy_

Posted 14 March 2012 - 05:18 PM

2 easy births - gave oral vitamin k to both
did not give Hep B at birth (don't even get me started on this crock).

Did give most other vaccinations.

#11 Cat Burglar

Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:59 AM

QUOTE (judy_ @ 14/03/2012, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
2 easy births - gave oral vitamin k to both
did not give Hep B at birth (don't even get me started on this crock).

Did give most other vaccinations.


I am actually curious why you say that if you dont mind me asking (genuinely curious)
My DD had both shots.
My friend who does not vax didnt have either.

My DD did have jaundice (minor) , but many other friend's bubbas had the shots and didnt get jaundice.

#12 Royal_Is_We

Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:46 PM

We were in the uk. Hep b is not given or on the schedule for most people. I think we did vit k injection, but I can't remember, but she did have a touch of jaundice.  We have kept to Australian schedule since coming except for the chicken pox one (not required to get immunisation allowance) as it is not on the uk schedule ( the NHs web site says that it's not necessary). We will readdress when she is older.



#13 BlondieUK

Posted 08 May 2012 - 07:05 AM

QUOTE (taranicole @ 12/03/2012, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We chose oral vitamin K...due for the next dose the end of this week!

There was a study about whether the injection is linked to jaundice...my other kids ALL had the vit k shot and ALL had jaundice - this little one had the oral dose and not even a touch of jaundice!



What did the study say? Or are you just going to rely on the experience of your kids to show a link?

#14 gab72

Posted 08 May 2012 - 07:21 AM

We did oral vit k at birth and no hep B needle. We will continue vaccinating according to the schedule, though will likely space out each set over a few weeks. I did this with DS2 and found he tolerated them better.

#15 Kay1

Posted 08 May 2012 - 07:30 AM

QUOTE
I do vaccinate, but will be choosing oral vitamin K for this baby and no hep B at birth.

This for me too. My other two had oral Vit K and did have the Hep B.

For me its more that I don't want their first experience of life to be a jab with a needle. You do have to be very sure they get all three doses of oral Vitamin K though or it doesn't work. For this one I am actually considering having the shot just because I know I will be very busy after the birth and don't want to risk missing a dose.

#16 belsy

Posted 08 May 2012 - 07:35 AM

Both my kids had both shots, one had slight jaundice (born at 37 weeks), one had none (born full term).    

Questioning the link between Vit K and jaundice, as PP said any link to the study?

#17 franklymum

Posted 08 May 2012 - 07:51 AM

We did not want either the hep b or vitamin k administered at birth but as they had to use a small amount of vacuum suction to get dd out, it was compulsory hospital policy to give vitamin k. Faced with that situation, we chose the oral vitamin k which is spread out over 3 doses unlike the injection.

#18 ~Delilah~

Posted 12 May 2012 - 08:32 PM


QUOTE
Questioning the link between Vit K and jaundice, as PP said any link to the study?


I'd be interested too. I've not been able to find such a link. There are a few articles from the 1950s questioning it but research shows us that jaundice in newborns is common (physiological or pathological).

Ironically a symptom of VKDB is yellowing of the skin and eyes.

#19 WaitForIt

Posted 12 May 2012 - 08:43 PM

QUOTE
Does vitamin K cause jaundice?

There were reports of hemolytic anemia and hyperbilirubinemia severe enough to cause kernicterus in the mid 1950s with high doses (50mg) of vitamin K2 (menadione).   As a result, use of this form of vitamin K was abandoned.  We now give infants vitamin K1 (phytonadione).  Vitamin K1 has been associated with hyperbilirubinemia only in high doses (25 – 30mg) particularly in premies, though the effect was present to a lesser degree in term infants.  This has not been a problem at therapeutic doses, though this concern is why we give babies <1500g a smaller (0.5mg) dose.


http://newborns.stanford.edu/VitaminK.html


#20 hiccamups

Posted 22 July 2012 - 12:12 AM

So if I am reading correctly,it is just as effective to boost your own levels of Vit K prior to birth as it is to administer a dose to the baby after birth?

And is the oral one an option in the hospital or do you have to get it though alternative sources? Do you have to tell them in advance?

When do the three doses need to be administered?



#21 Chicky whicky

Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:07 AM

QUOTE (gigglet @ 12/05/2012, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>



Just for information, the dose given to newborns is 1 - 2mg, nowhere near those levels.

#22 WinterIsComing

Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:16 AM

Got both shots, no jaundice.

Anecdotally, in my MG all did the same, no jaundice.

To be honest, something like 99% of people do both and not even question. I actually asked around while in the hospital, out of curiousity, and everyone who was there at the same time as me just took what was offered.

It's just vitamin and it prevent potentially lethal desease...

I am not that sure about Hep B, clearly they are trying to eradicate the desease in Australia for good, and that's a good thing, not sure why people are up in arms about it?

#23 Azadel

Posted 22 July 2012 - 10:34 AM

No hep b at birth, we have followed the schedule since. We chose oral Vit K and at a public hospital it was no issue at all. They even gave us the third dose to take home and administer at the appropriate time. DS did get a very mild touch of jaundice but it didn't worry anyone.

Edit: I believe the reason people refuse the birth dose of hep b is it is unecessary unless you are in a high risk group. All babies receive the same number of hep b inoculations in the schedule anyway so choosing it at birth is an extra dose. It is offered to everyone at birth not just those perceived to be at risk for fear of causing offence, having people lie about their behaviour etc. We knew we were in a low risk group and tested negative before conception, so knew it was something we just didn't need at that stage. DS has since received the full hep b schedule; kids who got the shot at birth don't have any extra protection. If there was a whooping cough vaccine available at birth we'd have been first in line.

Edited by Azadel, 22 July 2012 - 10:44 AM.


#24 I'm Batman

Posted 22 July 2012 - 11:07 AM

Vitamin K is not a vaccination, It is a vitamin, as pps said you can have it orally too.




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