Jump to content

Is anyone else's DayCareCentre removing food
and not lowering fees?


  • Please log in to reply
29 replies to this topic

#1 insertemotion

Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:08 AM

DSs day care centre have informed is that they will no longer be supplying food and we need to pack lunch for our children.
Their reason is that the cost of keeping food in is too expensive due to the changes in legislation and that they're going to be focusing on more natural environments such as veggie gardens.

I told them our centre already had a veggie patch and I didn't understand why if they were removing a service fees wouldn't go down or some sort of compensation, especially since we already have the garden they speak of.

I can't really afford to supply lunch for DS both time wise and cost wise and told them it may lead me to change centres. I was told that I will find ALL centres will be removing food due to the cost of the new legislation being met.

Is anyone else's removing food? Are they lowering cost? If I move will I just end up in a centre that removes food soon anyway? sad.gif

#2 Guest_holy_j_*

Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:11 AM

If they are removing food in lieu of increasing fees, there's your compensation.

#3 ~LTM~

Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:14 AM

No, but ours increased fees due to the new legislation.

#4 3_for_me

Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:16 AM

We use two centres, neither has increased their fees, one supplies food(long day centre) other doesn't supply food anyway(short day childcare/preschool)

#5 paddyboo

Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:19 AM

ours haven't mentioned anything about removing food, the fees increased by $5/day but i assumed that was an inflation thing as they never mentioned it had anything to do with legislation changes...

#6 mum2two2010

Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:20 AM

I live in SA and the child care centre my DS goes to supplies all food. They have changed over to a health eating menu and I get it emailed to me every Friday afternoon for the following week.
I would hate to supply his food, he only really eats when he's at child care, I don't know if it's the food or being with his friends.

#7 Hattie

Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:21 AM

I am on the management committee of a community daycare centre, so have insight into running costs etc.

The funding changes have made a massive difference to the bottom line for daycare centres. As an example, in 2011 our centre received $120,000 in government funding, this year we will get around $30,000. The difference has to be made up somehow - in the case of my centre we have kept the provision of food, but raised fees by close to 10%. Obviously in the case of your centre they are making up the shortfall in government funding by dropping the provision of food.

You will probably be able to find another centre that provides food, but I would suspect their fees will be more than you're paying at your current centre.

Julie

#8 TheGreenSheep

Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:29 AM

The daycare DS2 attends has increased prices, no changes to providing food. Thankgod as he eats a lot so it is cheaper for me not to have to supply food.

#9 g_uzica

Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:38 AM

Our DC supplies all food and just did their annual increase in fees, which was just CPI.

There is no way I would/could match the diversity in food and snacks that the DC provides.  There is enough time for that when she starts full time school.

I would check the neighbouring DC centres to see what their policies are and will be.  I wouldn't take the word of anyone working in your current centre as they would want to keep you there.

#10 LittleListen

Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:39 AM

The new legislative changes have related to changes to the ratios of staff and some states are more affected than others - depending on what previous ratios were in that state. Some centres need to employ extra staff to meet the ratios each day. The money for that typically comes from increasing fees. The funding changes have also had an impact on centres so this has to be made up somewhere else - as per PP's explanation.

OP, your centre hasn't articulated it very well, but there is a need for centres to review their practice and balance funding with costs for extra staff etc.

Your centre's vegie patch has nothing to do with the funding changes - centres are now required to provide awareness of sustainable practice in their programs. This has nothing to do with cutting food out - its a separate issue. They haven't explained it well obviously.

No, it is absolutely not the case that all centres are dropping food service from their program, especially those who employ a cook.

You are getting "compensation" in the form of your fees not being increased.

#11 Klinkalink

Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:39 AM

My LDC centre supplies food, but many around me don't now, mainly because they didn't want to have to meet the accreditation regulations in regards to storing and preparing food. Most of them didn't drop their fees though which I think was pretty ordinary - some of them even put their fees up at the same time  ohmy.gif

#12 runlikethewind

Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:45 AM

Ours doesn't provide food anyway and we pay $64 a day which , as it is in a small country town, I assume is okay. I wouldn't want food provided due to DS's allergies so am happy to make the time and spend the money on food that I would choose for him and that is okay for him to eat.

#13 adnama

Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:47 AM

There hasn't been any annoucements at DS's daycare, I know they reviewed the cost for the beginning of the year, my cost is $79/day with all meals provided, they have a qualified chef. DS has been going for 2mths 2days/wk and at lunch he has something different every week so far, when DD went there they had sandwhiches a fair bit.

#14 LittleListen

Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:48 AM

Just by way of interest, my centre's budget (which results in an excellent, diverse and nutritious menu) comes down to $1.30 per child per day. If we did drop food it wouldn't be worth the drop in fees.
Most centres are just trying to improve staffing with as little impact to families as possible..

#15 insertemotion

Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:50 AM

We had fees go up due to the legislation change in regards to ratio and training.

I pay $65 a day and while I get 50% back I'm thinking maybe it's cheaper for me to quit my job and keep him at home


#16 CallMeFeral

Posted 06 March 2012 - 10:57 AM

No... what state are you in?

I would rather pay more than have to provide food - that's very time consuming!

#17 Georgie01

Posted 06 March 2012 - 11:09 AM

QUOTE
I was told that I will find ALL centres will be removing food due to the cost of the new legislation being met.


I know that ours is not removing food but did think about it. Providing food can be a big extra cost (staff, facilities, food) and administrative hassle to the centre, they need to ensure they have staff with appropriate training in food handling, meet the (ever increasing) requirements, have inspections etc. If it wasn't for the fact that most parents felt strongly that the meals were a very positive aspect then the centre would have stopped providing it.

The new legislation about staff qualifications and ratios is forcing centres to increase fees, sometimes by quite a bit. I wouldn't be surprised if some centres decide to drop food to keep fees lower.

#18 Tall Poppy

Posted 07 March 2012 - 09:58 AM

DD centre raised their fees by $10 per day. This bring the fees up to $120 per day in the toddler room. It's insane & I am contemplating pulling her out for a few reasons but this is certainly one of them.

They still offer food but last year DD ate the food this year she hasn't eaten one of the lunches as they are "yuck, Mum". I am guessing the quality has gone down hill. They also make a lot of cakes together and have at morning or afternoon tea which annoys me as well. This is supposedly a well run centre with agood reputation. I'd hate to see a cheap crappy centre!

The staff ratios & CPI were the reasons cited for the price increase.

edited: weird triple post happened

Edited by BadKitteh, 07 March 2012 - 10:00 AM.


#19 Freddie'sMum

Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:06 AM

No, I haven't heard anything about DD#2's long daycare "removing" food.

I guess because this is her last year at daycare (she starts 'big school' next year) IF they did - I would just supply her with food - I wouldn't go out of my way to change centres as I am very happy with the daycare she goes to.



#20 domestically~challenged

Posted 08 March 2012 - 08:42 PM

No but they did increase their fees by $6 per day.

#21 Spa Gonk

Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:11 PM

Our community run centre has always provided morning and afternoon tea, but never lunch.  And I think our fees would be a good $7 less than the next cheapest centre.  I prefer to pay less and provide my own food.  They also heat up food.  A left overs bowl of pasta or a sandwich would not cost more than $1 and does not take long to make.  My child also has allergies, so we always pack morning and afternoon tea for him incase the menu items are not suitable.

I've used a centre before that provided all food and whilst it was convenient, I'd rather pay less.

#22 libbylu

Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:16 PM

It's strange that they didn't do a survey of parents before making this decision.
Ours did a survey about the need to meet increased kinder hours.
I haven't heard of any other centres doing this.

#23 Maybe this month

Posted 08 March 2012 - 09:51 PM

I'm very new to the child care thing.  DD has only been going a couple of months.  They provide all nappies, breakfast, lunch, morning and afternoon tea and a late afternoon snack.  I love that!  It makes getting out the door so much easier.  When we started fees were $63/day and they went up to $70 recently.  We are in the outer suburbs of Melbourne.  I am surprised that fees vary so much.  I love our centre.  It is a great family run place with chooks and herb/veggie patches and staff that are always smiling and seem to actually really enjoy their jobs.  That was one of the reasons I chose that centre.  When I went to have a look, every staff member that walked past stopped to say hello to my daughter with a great big smile.  And they all still do the same now.  Totally off topic now but will check with them to see that they're not considering removing their meals.

#24 The Falcon

Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:01 PM

Our LDC provides all food & nappies, and have made no mention of removing food or increasing fees - but I suppose that is because it is a privately owned centre and they already covered the new staffing ratios so they had no increase in costs.

I would not be happy with removing food, and if it were an option I would take an increase in fees over removing the food.  I think your centre should put it to a vote!

#25 ceedee81

Posted 21 March 2012 - 09:33 PM

Yes ours have advised us that they will be doing the same as at the 2nd April, I dare say we are with the same company, they have a few centres around seq, our notification letter sounds similar to what you have said.  We also had a small fee increase a couple of months ago along with the removal of food.

As much as I am not looking forward to working out what to prepare and finding the time to do it I would be happier they drop the food than the quality of other things being erroded due the financial/time/red tape constraints of the staff.




2 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 2 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Natural pain relief in the early stages of labour

While managing labour pains on your own can be daunting, there are a number of natural pain relief options to help you cope until you are admitted to hospital.

Chinese woman gives birth to quintuplets

After six years of trying for a baby, a couple’s dreams have come true many times over after the mum gave birth to quintuplets this week.

Five-year-old shoots nine-month-old brother dead

A nine-month-old baby boy died on Monday after he was shot in the head by his five-year-old brother in their grandfather's home.

'Is that baby yours?'

She is my daughter. I gave birth to her. I nurse her. But she doesn't have any of my genes.

Episiotomy in childbirth: not just 'a little snip'

Episiotomies have a place in maternity care – and can occasionally save lives – but should not be performed routinely.

Toddler aggression not caused by language delays after all: study

The logic was that children who don’t have the language to fully express themselves will lash out when they’re misunderstood. Not anymore.

Why we chose to adopt a child with Down sydrome

Everyone in foster care (and really in life) has something that makes them more vulnerable. We just know what our son's is.

Object of desire

Curvy mums make clever babies

Scientists appear to have discovered why women have evolved to have more curves than men – shapely thighs and bottoms lead to healthier babies.

'We'll make sure they know how much she loved them'

A first-time mum will never get to hold her four newborns, dying shortly after giving birth to the quadruplets.

The baby names NZ knocked back in 2014

A New Zealander has tried to name their baby Senior Constable but didn't get away with it - and numbering children is also a no-no.

How can you go into labour without knowing you're pregnant?

For most of us, the idea that a woman could carry a child to full-term without knowing she is pregnant is mind-boggling.

Will you get to the hospital in time?

Worrying your baby will be delivered by the roadside is a common concern for many mothers-to-be. So how likely are you to be caught short?

Video: Funny 'Lips Are Moving' parody just for mums

Meghan Trainor's song 'Lips Are Moving' was already a hit, but now it's been turned into a hilarious parody that is set to be very popular with frustrated mums everywhere.

Out with the clutter

Decluttering by the numbers: take the 30-day challenge

Forget the 5:2 diet - Twitter's 30-day declutter challenge will have your house back in shape in no time (well, a month).

Parents, don't be too hard on yourselves

We need to stop damning parents of today, and embrace their appetite for knowledge instead.

Is my baby normal?

There are chubby Buddha babies and there are thin, smaller babies. Neither are right or wrong, they are all 'normal'.

When an older sibling starts school

When one child goes to ‘big school’ and leaves the other behind, it can cause deep upset. Here's how to make the transition easier.

Stray cat saves abandoned baby

They say dogs are man's best friend, but one cat has proven felines can be just as devoted to their human companions.

How strangers are helping a mum's wish come true after her death

A mum of five, Liz Marquez wanted to breastfeed her premmie son for a year. So when she passed away suddenly, her friends - and strangers - stepped in to help.

Win an Octonauts prize pack

To celebrate the launch of Octonauts Live! Operation Reef Shield, a spectacular underwater adventure live on stage, we are giving away an amazing Octonauts prize pack to one lucky fan.

Download now: Essential Kids Activity Finder app

Got bored kids? Quickly find the best activities for kids wherever you are in Australia with the Essential Kids app.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Stars help save choking babies

It's an important lesson to learn, but one that busy new mums and dads might overlook until it's too late.

New Girl star Zooey Deschanel pregnant

Actress Zooey Deschanel is expecting her first child with her producer boyfriend Jacob Pechenik.

16 times 'dad reflexes' saved the day

Of course, in some cases they may be the ones who actually got their child into a precarious position in the first place, but we'll ignore that for now.

Couple's 'non-traditional' pregnancy announcement goes viral

Knowing you are not the father of your pregnant wife's baby would usually indicate a rocky relationship ahead for traditional parents.

The trials and tribulations of identical triplet newborns

Pip Donnelly is still playing spot the difference with her newborn identical triplets, Isabelle, Georgina and Frankie.

Win an Octonauts prize pack

To celebrate the launch of Octonauts Live! Operation Reef Shield, a spectacular underwater adventure live on stage, we are giving away an amazing Octonauts prize pack to one lucky fan.

Earthquake baby thriving five years on

Jenny Alexis is lucky to be alive after spending four days buried in the rubble of the 2010 Haitian earthquake, but now she's a thriving five year old.

Please don't say I'm lucky because I was adopted

On the one hand I was having a regular life with friends and sports and sleepovers and school. But I was also always wondering: Did my mother love me? What was wrong with me?

An open letter to non-parents who offer advice on child-rearing

Kitty, when you’re the parent of my child you’re welcome to wade in with an opinion – but until then, I’d prefer you to have a supportive ear and a glass of wine ready.

Couple arrested over baby gun video

A US couple faces charges after investigators say they found mobile phone videos showing the woman's 12-month-old daughter putting a handgun in her mouth.

NSW Health dumps 10-year limit on frozen embryos

A 10-year time limit on storing frozen embryos that were created with donor sperm has been dropped by the NSW government.

How my happy-go-lucky husband became a monster

Sharan Nicholson-Rogers watched her husband change from a happy-go-lucky police officer into an unpredictable man prone to violent and emotional outbursts.

Dads-to-be experience hormonal changes, too

Dads-to-be experience hormonal changes in line with their pregnant partners, a new study shows.

'They were just doing their job': mum of toddler killed in police chase gone wrong

"They were just doing their job. I feel so sorry for them. It is all just too sad."

Miscarriages to be formally recognised by NSW government

Women who miscarry will be able to obtain an optional "recognition of loss" certificate as a formal recognition of their often heartbreaking loss.

Cafe cubby house 'too noisy' for neighbours

Teenage parties, domestic disputes, or raucous late night pubs are the things that usually come to mind when you think neighbourhood noise complaints.

Dad films baby playing with snake

Most parents would not consider a snake an appropriate playmate for their baby, but a US dad who filmed his daughter playing with a python has defended himself against criticism.

Clever breastfeeding products

Check out this range of products designed to help make your breastfeeding journey more enjoyable, manageable and convenient.

Win with The Boxtrolls

To celebrate the release of The Boxtrolls on 3D Blu-ray, DVD & Digital with UltraViolet, we're giving you the chance to win a Boxtroll stationary package and DVD.

 

School Term 1

Get after-school care sorted

Wait lists too long at OSHC? Use www.findababysitter.com.au to meet local nannies now.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.