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#301 whatnamenow

Posted 24 May 2015 - 04:30 PM

ok i have a question.  it looks like DD2 is going to possibly follow in her big sissy's footsteps and be a gymnast.  She currently does kindergym twice a week because a) she loves it and b) its nice to wear her out and she then has a sleep.  

She is currently at a gym that has a competitive steam ( but not NDP or IDP) and the coaches have said at this point they would be happy to have her join that stream at 5 and would look at her maybe joining at 4.  Their rec stream only starts at 5 as well so no matter what at that gym it would be a 4 or 5yo start.

There is another gym in town that only does rec but starts rec gymnastics at age 3.  I am considering putting her on the wait list for that class as well as her doing maybe 1 day a week kindergym at the old club so she can learn a bit more.  But i am weary of feeling like i am pushing her, b) know that the other gym must have reasons for not starting that young if the market is there for it with a waitlist at the other place.  and c) dont want to p*ss the gym with the only competitive stream within 200k's off.  

any helpful suggestions?

#302 EssentialBludger

Posted 24 May 2015 - 05:52 PM

17-19 July mards, not sure what day yet. Yours is nearly here!!

#303 EssentialBludger

Posted 24 May 2015 - 05:54 PM

Whatnamenow does your older dd still do gym? Where does she go?

I wouldn't imagine starting at 3 would be any more than a kindy gym type set up anyway? I could be wrong.

#304 whatnamenow

Posted 24 May 2015 - 08:37 PM

View PostEssentialBludger, on 24 May 2015 - 05:54 PM, said:

Whatnamenow does your older dd still do gym? Where does she go?

I wouldn't imagine starting at 3 would be any more than a kindy gym type set up anyway? I could be wrong.

My older daughter stopped gym after a bad vault injury last year.  Specialists said they would not sign clearance and gym quite rightly wouldn't allow her back without it.  She was in the competitive stream at the main gym.

The other gym runs kindygym but clearly states rec from 3yo.  Might ring and ask some questions..

#305 EssentialBludger

Posted 24 May 2015 - 09:29 PM

Honestly, I imagine "rec for 3 year olds" is kindy gym.
Depends on what you are wanting out of it I guess? I personally wouldn't want my 3yo doing anything beyond simple kindy gym type stuff, especially stuff that will potentially damage their little spines. You say you want her to learn a bit more? What are you wanting her to be learning at 3?

#306 TenYears

Posted 24 May 2015 - 10:19 PM

I understand whatmenow.  My daughter switched from kinder gym to rec gym when she turned three, because that is the way our then gym ran things.  Honestly, it was the same stuff.  The only difference was that he parents don't stay in the room for the three year olds.  

It was still a session with a huge group of kids and a couple of coaches - brief structured bit where some basic shapes were taught and games were played, then a circuit.  But honestly, once kids have learned the shapes (the same each term), mastered forward and back rolls down a wedge, scamper confidently across the beam, and can hang from the bars in a nice pike, rec gym for three year olds doesn't hold much in the way of progression.  Just the same stuff each week.

'Real' gymnastics for three year olds is a very different thing.  You need little ones who desperately want to fly.  You need a coach who can wrangle small children (do hair, help with leos at toilet time,  manage fears, dispense hugs) and who knows what is and is not safe for little bodies.  And of course there is the proportion issue.  Until a kid's head is not huge in proportion to their bodies, there is just some stuff they really are not balanced well for anyway.

Because of that, there isn't much out there for a three year old who has outgrown kinder gym but is way too young for levels.  My daughter was lucky - she was switched from the rec group into a lovely little IDP development group at three and a half.  Five girls and the world's sweetest coach.  There was a lot that really didn't click until she turned four but she did a lot of strength, conditioning, shape and balance work in that time and just adored the increased hours, the more structured and challenging approach, and her coach, and her lovely little group of little girls.

And, for an active little kid (she turned six last week, and is still doing gymnastics although we didn't persue the IDP once she got old enough for other options) I get a lot of comments from teachers, and even coaches at her new gym about her unusual degree of focus and discipline and ability to persist.   And I think she got all of that at the gym in her preschool years.

So it can be done, but it is a difficult thing for many gyms to offer.  Not because it isn't appropriate so much as it isn't exactly an earner for the gym, and it takes up floor space and a coach for a tiny little group of kids.  Rec classes are a way more efficient way for a gym to earn its living!

Sorry that was long.  To boil it down to an answer to your question - yes it is an appropriate thing to look for, but the reality is that the rec class will probably be just more kindergym anyway.  But it can't hurt to ask.

#307 whatnamenow

Posted 24 May 2015 - 10:21 PM

Only whatever she is ready for.  If that makes sense?  She's trying to somersault on the floor and is trying herself to do pullover on the bar when they just swing on it at kindergym.  So she has to be stopped.  I know she is just trying to copy what she. Has seen big sister do.  I don't want her doing it if there is good reasons why not. ( such as the spine) but I would rather she learnt it in the safety of the gym with a coach who knows what they are doing rather than watching her pull stuff in the backyard if that makes sense?  

Last week when I had no idea that this other club even did rec for 3yo's I wouldn't of even thought about it.  Just waited till she was 4 or 5 and seen how she went.  This has just made me confused...

#308 EssentialBludger

Posted 24 May 2015 - 10:24 PM

I would ask the other gym what sort of stuff they do in that case.

#309 whatnamenow

Posted 24 May 2015 - 10:24 PM

Ten years that's my daughter..  Been climbing since she was about 6mo, fearless and wants to get in and do it all.  Doesn't help that we still have the beam and practice bars at home from big sister.

#310 EssentialBludger

Posted 26 May 2015 - 09:34 AM

Hey mards which floor routine is your dd doing? I totally forgot there were two of them, I want to see the other one!

#311 mards

Posted 26 May 2015 - 11:27 AM

Im not sure what the music is called - but it sounds like a spy movie type theme???

which one are you doing LOL!

#312 EssentialBludger

Posted 26 May 2015 - 12:18 PM

Will pm you

#313 mards

Posted 26 May 2015 - 03:50 PM

thanks for the PM! - so interesting to see other gymies news when they are doing the exact same routines!

#314 TenYears

Posted 27 May 2015 - 08:43 PM

The level five spy music is from the theme to the movie The Saint.

The level four whistling music has already driven everyone nuts, and it has only been in use for a few months.   And the level three music is diabolical - it is a clubbing song that is mostly just beat, and there aren't really any landmarks in the music to help kids move to it.

Edited by TenYears, 27 May 2015 - 08:44 PM.

#315 mards

Posted Yesterday, 07:09 AM

i LOVE the level 3 song!! LOL! - but i know it doesn't help any of the level 3s at all!! - but i enjoy listening to it.  - do you know the name of it - it is so familiar.

#316 TenYears

Posted Yesterday, 07:54 AM

Yes, I remember clubbing to it back in the day!  But the littlies are having some serious trouble with it.

Edited by TenYears, Yesterday, 07:55 AM.

#317 mards

Posted Yesterday, 07:50 PM

yes its so ungymnastic like - thats why i love it LOL!

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