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#1 Humphrey2011

Posted 20 January 2012 - 08:55 PM

Curiosity question....

If you have private health insurance, can you elect to have a c-section even if their is no medical reason why you would need one.  My friend is trying to fall pregnant and is under the impression that as she will be having the baby through a private hospital, she will be able to ask for a c-section just because she wants one.  Is this the case?  I always thought that you would still need a darn good reason to elect to have a c-section, not just because you don't want to go through the pain of labour.  I went through the public system with my bub so I really don't know the ins and outs of the private system.

#2 3_for_me

Posted 20 January 2012 - 08:57 PM

Yep, find an ob who is happy to do an elective caesar and shes in.

#3 Mumof32b!

Posted 20 January 2012 - 08:58 PM

Yep my SIL did twice.

#4 *bibs*

Posted 20 January 2012 - 09:00 PM

Yes, I had an elective c/s after two natural births in a public hospital.
I did not have it for medical reasons more because of an extremely traumatic previous birth.

Wonderful experience for me.

#5 jules77

Posted 20 January 2012 - 09:00 PM

I believe she would just need to find an OB that would be happy to fulfil her wishes (you need to be under the care of an OB in private hospitals).

At one stage (pre-birth jitters, after remember what it was like with DS1!!) I asked my OB whether an CS would be a better option and he said that I definitely did not 'want' one....as it turned out, I had a super fast ,non-complicated and great labour and birth.

#6 PopperPenguin

Posted 20 January 2012 - 09:03 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't recovery from a c-section take a lot longer and is quite painful for quite a while? Does your friend realise it's not just, cut open - get baby out - stitch up, and voila! no pain, no tenderness, no restrictions??

I understand some women have a genuine, crippling fear of childbirth, but there's got to be a bit more perspective for those who just 'dont want to deal with labour'

#7 Azadel

Posted 20 January 2012 - 09:08 PM

QUOTE (Orca @ 20/01/2012, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't recovery from a c-section take a lot longer and is quite painful for quite a while? Does your friend realise it's not just, cut open - get baby out - stitch up, and voila! no pain, no tenderness, no restrictions??

I understand some women have a genuine, crippling fear of childbirth, but there's got to be a bit more perspective for those who just 'dont want to deal with labour'


That's true, but I had an instrumental c-section four months ago where they broke one of my ribs trying to get DS's 39cm head out. Very sore recovery, but now I'm running several times a week, I'd never know anything had happened if not for my scar.

There are women who still have problems with stitches six months, a year after vaginal delivery. It's not always black and white, c-section bad, vaginal birth easy.

#8 mudder

Posted 20 January 2012 - 09:08 PM

Yes you most certainly can.

#9 Humphrey2011

Posted 20 January 2012 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE (Orca @ 20/01/2012, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't recovery from a c-section take a lot longer and is quite painful for quite a while? Does your friend realise it's not just, cut open - get baby out - stitch up, and voila! no pain, no tenderness, no restrictions??

I understand some women have a genuine, crippling fear of childbirth, but there's got to be a bit more perspective for those who just 'dont want to deal with labour'



TBH, I don't think she does realise what the recovery of a c-section involves, this will be her first baby.  Hopefully she'll do lots of research before she commits to going down that path.  

Thanks everyone, you learn something new every day!

#10 Humphrey2011

Posted 20 January 2012 - 09:12 PM

QUOTE (Azacat @ 20/01/2012, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's true, but I had an instrumental c-section four months ago where they broke one of my ribs trying to get DS's 39cm head out. Very sore recovery, but now I'm running several times a week, I'd never know anything had happened if not for my scar.

There are women who still have problems with stitches six months, a year after vaginal delivery. It's not always black and white, c-section bad, vaginal birth easy.



Ah yes, I thought that because I was having a vaginal birth that my recovery would be quick and easy.  How naive was I!

#11 Flutter Bug

Posted 21 January 2012 - 02:07 PM

I deleted it. It sounded a bit angry - oops!

Edited by Flutter Bug, 21 January 2012 - 02:10 PM.


#12 Soontobegran

Posted 21 January 2012 - 02:17 PM

QUOTE (*bibs* @ 20/01/2012, 10:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, I had an elective c/s after two natural births in a public hospital.
I did not have it for medical reasons more because of an extremely traumatic previous birth.

Wonderful experience for me.


A previous traumatic delivery is actually considered a valid reason in the public system. A 'medical' need includes emotional/mental health also.


QUOTE (Orca @ 20/01/2012, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't recovery from a c-section take a lot longer and is quite painful for quite a while? Does your friend realise it's not just, cut open - get baby out - stitch up, and voila! no pain, no tenderness, no restrictions??

I understand some women have a genuine, crippling fear of childbirth, but there's got to be a bit more perspective for those who just 'dont want to deal with labour'


Is the baby in your timeline your first Orca?


#13 JaneLane

Posted 21 January 2012 - 02:18 PM

I'm sure you can find OB's that will but I think most would want to try for a natural and only go for a c-section if they are genuine reasons for having one.  I have had 2 emergency c/s's that were originally suppose to be 'elective' c-sections for medical resons.  While I found both to be very postive experiences, it is major abdominal surgery and the decision should be well informed and not entered into lightly

#14 idignantlyright

Posted 21 January 2012 - 02:28 PM

For some women a CS is more traumatic with a longer recovery, and for others a VB is more traumatic with a long recovery.
There are arguments for both sides.
Ideally a VB is the way to go unless you have mental or physical needs or reasons for a CS.

#15 Soontobegran

Posted 21 January 2012 - 02:37 PM

I know several Obstetricians who will do their best to alleviate fears and discourage an elective C/S, I know several others who, when approached by a patient who is informed and educated with regard to the risks of C/S will say yes without a fight.
In the public system there are C/S for what 'others' may deem to be non medical reasons but due to funding etc there will be more resistance and more proof of previous trauma or emotional/mental health issues.
It is all about searching for the right caregiver for your needs.

#16 mummy26

Posted 26 January 2012 - 01:20 AM

Edited because Granny below is such a childbirth know all

Edited by mummy26, 01 March 2012 - 12:22 AM.


#17 Soontobegran

Posted 26 January 2012 - 02:52 PM

QUOTE (mummy26 @ 26/01/2012, 02:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Without reading whats been said already, why would anyone opt for a C-Section without a medical reason is beyond me.  I just had a caesar after 8 normal births and trust me, normal childbirth is the better option.  She'll need a spinal/epidural anyway so why not just do it that way if she wants to be pain free


Because your experience is yours. I know several women who've had vaginal then C/S and opted for C/S for subsequent pregnancies because of either their delivery experience or their recovery.


#18 vanessa71

Posted 29 January 2012 - 03:15 PM

QUOTE (Orca @ 20/01/2012, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't recovery from a c-section take a lot longer and is quite painful for quite a while? Does your friend realise it's not just, cut open - get baby out - stitch up, and voila! no pain, no tenderness, no restrictions??


I'll correct you. Both times it was for me, a case of being cut open to get baby out and yes, no pain afterwards and a very quick recovery. Of course that is not the case for everyone, just as a smooth no tearing, no stitches vaginal birth is not the case for all vaginal birthers.

OP, I had two purely elective Caesars and would do it again if I had to, mine were great experiences.



#19 opethmum

Posted 29 January 2012 - 03:47 PM

I had emergency c/s but my ob certainly wanted patients to try vaginal but he did not dissuade from having an elective c/s. He is very much in wanting people being comfortable with whatever delivery plan they have.

#20 keedensmum

Posted 29 January 2012 - 04:06 PM

I just advised my obstetrician on Friday (1st appointment) that I wanted a c-section, (I don't really and I am scared of the operation and recovery but.....) this was after I explained my first son who is now 11 years old had a neonatal stroke and now has cerebral palsy and epilepsy after a long posterior birth.  There is no way I am taking any chance of anything going wrong again.  I am also 37 years old (so seen as to be ancient in terms of being pregnant!) and my baby is 3rd round of ivf conceived also.  My obstetrician had no hesitation in saying "I was going to ask if you want a c-section after that history".  I think, each to their own in their own circumstances.

#21 Guest_misskrys_*

Posted 29 January 2012 - 06:10 PM

Yes.

A mothers well being , physical or otherwise will be the primary concern driving the health professionals agreement on this.

If a mother wants a c --section, there is no gounds for a refusal. Why would they want to make a mother have a pregnancy / birth she is clearly not comfortable with?
And if they dont see it that way....then your best interests arent at heart and its time to change health providers.



#22 tasy

Posted 29 January 2012 - 07:28 PM

QUOTE (vanessa71 @ 29/01/2012, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll correct you. Both times it was for me, a case of being cut open to get baby out and yes, no pain afterwards and a very quick recovery. Of course that is not the case for everyone, just as a smooth no tearing, no stitches vaginal birth is not the case for all vaginal birthers.

OP, I had two purely elective Caesars and would do it again if I had to, mine were great experiences.



this is me except i've had 3 c/s.. mine were great, and i requested my first when i was 21.. each to their own

#23 sahmmum

Posted 29 January 2012 - 07:37 PM

Yes I asked and I went through the public system.

#24 steffijade81

Posted 08 March 2012 - 11:49 PM

My Ob asked me which way I would like to birth my baby and that she had no issue with either that it was completely up to me unless complications got in the way which in my case they did. I had a footling breech baby with meconium in my waters that broke at 38 weeks so had a very speedy c section to get her out asap. I think its great that you have the option these days as it should be, its your body, no one should be able to dictate how you choose to birth your child.

#25 Serenity82

Posted 13 April 2012 - 08:00 PM

It does really depend on the woman, her experience, pain threshold etc

I had an emergency c-section for my first, was on my feet within a few hours and felt fine within a week, however I know other people who have had a horrendous time of it.

Second baby I had a VBAC. I healed more quickly with vaginal and I did enjoy it, however again comes down to each individual.

When we have a third, I will opt for a c-section. Healing time will be longer, however with my VBAC, my DS heart rate dropped suddenly and I think he came close to dying, so I will opt for the c-section for my peace of mind.

Childbirth can be dangerous either way, you just have to decide which decision feels right for you.




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