, Jan 05 2012 08:59 AM
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Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:38 PM
My first was posterior and the back pain was bad, and also I had contraction pain from my neck to my knees.
I really had no idea though and was lying on my back and arching and tensing up with the pain.
But the back pain is very real. The rest is just like any labour really.
- Except a posterior labour can give you the urge to push before you really ready, due to baby pressing oddly on you - so be aware of that too.
Even if baby doesn't turn a second labour should be easier than a first (even posterior I expect). I did have an episiotomy, but no epidural or forceps or anything else with my posterior labour. It doesn't have to mean intervention.
Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:55 PM
My first was POP (persistent posterior - she never turned). I did have an epi, pethidine and gas - it was a long labour! but no other intervention was needed. Actually, we didn't know she was posterior until after she was born, although my ob did say that explained why I was yelling about my back so much.
Posted 25 January 2012 - 11:11 PM
My first was posterior and I'm not going to lie, it was horrendous. All in the back- the pain was not the worst of it, the worst of it was days and days of pain and not getting anywhere. It's easier to deal with the pain, when you find you've made progress in dilating, getting told, no you are still 1cm makes you want to scream. Nearly 3 days all up, pethidine was useless- i ended up having syntocin and an epi, which worked. Water was heaven and heat!, and the ball and doing squats and walking around was useless, it made the pain excrutiating for me. My 3rd I dunno what you call it but he was looking to the side when he came up and he was 2 days worth of labour.
BUT my daughter, my 2nd child was normal, typical labour and progression and was still 10 hours labour.
So i think it really is an individual thing , I probably would have had long labours anyway...i have friends that have had very short labours with posterior babies and said they never felt any back pain at all.
Edited by holy_j, 25 January 2012 - 11:13 PM.
Posted 25 January 2012 - 11:20 PM
A couple of ways to encourage them to get into position is, as someone else had suggested, be on all fours and allow the baby to hang, swing your hips from side to side (this can be great for back pain as well)
I did this twice a day at the final stages of my second pregnancy so that my baby wouldn't be posterior.
My first baby was posterior and it was 20 hours and there was a lot of pain the hip. I kept doing the above exercises for my second pregnancy and the labour was only 7 hours and not anywhere near as painful.
I used a fit ball to support my arms and upper body and rolled my hip around while I was on all fours. I did that for about 10 minutes each time, twice a day.
Posted 26 January 2012 - 07:10 AM
My first was posterior. Whilst it did take a little longer during the pushing stage, it was still relatively quick.
The thing I found the worst was the intense pressure, making me feel like I needed to do a giant poo. My second (not posterior) felt a bit like that but not nearly as bad.
The best thing for me was staying upright and then when the pressure got really intense I found it SO comfortable to sit on the toilet, I'm not sure why - I think the position just helped me feel the pressure rather than freaking out and trying to stop it.
I managed to get through it 100% drug free, and I'm sure you can too if that is what you want. Just go with the flow. Your body is pretty good at telling you what it needs you to do.
Posted 26 January 2012 - 07:25 AM
My first labour (dd2) was posterior (DD1 was a c/s) and it was hard work and I had an epidural and forcept delivery. Second labour (anterior) was a breeze, 5 hours, no pain relief at all.
DD2 turned posterior sometime in labour or the 24 hrs before. What I found helped a lot was my TENS. It was my life saver for the back pain. I highly recommend one. Interestingly, it did nothing for me with my second (anterior) labour.
Posted 26 January 2012 - 12:15 PM
My son was in posterior position which the midfwifes worked out when I arrived after examining me. They told me straight up it was going to be a long labour. I started getting mild contractions on the Tuesday night and I thought I did the right thing by staying home all night and attended the hospital the next morning. (1st baby) They examined me and told me to go home as only a few cms dilated. I struggled at home all day until I couldn't do it any longer and went back to the hospital about 7.30pm on Wednesday night. I had contractions regularly, baby was not turning at all, I had gas, then pethadine, then a 2nd shot of pethadine and then an epidural early on Thursday morning as I was just exhausted. No sleep for 2 nights basically. Then they had to break the waters, then they connected the syntocinon drip, then I spent 2 hours pushing after being in labour for abour 40 hours and my son was finally born at 1pm on Thursday afternoon. I found nothing but the epidural took the pain away. My story turns into a horror story where because of the extremely long birth my son (I now know) had decelerations in his heart rate, I was overstimulated with syntocinin and my son sufferred hypoxia and had to be given cardiac massage upon delivery. He then went on to become dehydrated as I was trying to breasfeed him (midwifes all telling me he will drink when he is ready) and he lost more then 10% of his bodyweight and the night I took him home from the maternity ward he began having seizures. Then he was diagnosed with having had an extensive venous sinus cerebral thombosis (blood clots and bleeds in his veins of his brain) after a helicopter flight to Westmead Children's and my son being ventilated and he now has cerebral palsy and epilepsy and needs 24 hour care. He is a gorgeous 11 year old, we have a medical negligence matter about to go to court or hopefully settle out of court but it all came from his posterior birth which is probably the most rarest and extreme outcome of a posterior birth but unfortunately it happened. It seems my current GP says if I had had my son in a Sydney hospital instead of where I did, there is no way they would have let this posterior birth go on so long. I am currently 9 weeks pregnant and I am having an elective c section as I am not going through that again!
Having said all that, I am sure your experience will be 1000 times better than mine and I wish you all the best. Just speak up when you feel you need to if it goes on too long as sometimes in my opinion Drs don't always know best!
Posted 26 January 2012 - 02:33 PM
Firstly, keedensmum I'm so sorry for your beautiful son, its a sobering story of the risky business of birth......I hope everything will be fantastic with #2.
I had a posterior birth with DS1, at the last antenatal visit he was in perfect position and then he turned in early labour.
Labour was 24 hours long go to whoa, and 2nd stage was about 2.5 hours. DS1 got stuck right at the end and that's when OB turned up with forceps, rotational one first then the ones to get him out.
I had an epidural cause I hate pain and it helped me get though, but the damned thing wore off at the start of 2nd stage dammit!!
Don't stress OP, yes it will hurt (birth hurts!) but you'll be surprised at your strength and power.
Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:14 AM
My first two babies were posterior. I tried all the positions leading up to birth but they were happy as they were. The bestr advice I can give is to utilitse different positions whilst in labour to help bub to turn.
When I went into labour with #1 the midwife said I had to lay on my belly over a beanbag to encourage bub to turn the right way. So very similar to an all fours position, but more upright. We put the beanbag up on the bed and it was so comfy just laying there. When bub turned around I felt him move down and my waters broke at the same time. I had no back ache labour pains with him and his whole labour was 5 hours.
With my second she was a very large bub and when I got to hospital they said she needed to turn, I had to stand up and lean over the bed and sway my hips from side to side, I only did that for around 20mins and then I felt her turn and she dropped right in, it took my breath away! I had to lay over a bean bag on the bed again to keep her that way as long as possible, and turned over when things had progressed enough. Her labour was 7 hours and again I had no back ache pain with her, even in the early stages before she turned.
It is possible to turn a bub before labour, but most babies will turn during labour but using different positions helps a lot with that. Of course some bubs are going to come out posterior no matter what but as long as the midwives are aware of bubs position they should be prepared.
Posted 27 January 2012 - 09:52 PM
My 2nd was posteria. Didn't know until I was in labour! Labour only ended up being 6 hours. One shot of peth and delivered her over the toilet!! Only place comfortable and allowed my pelvis to open wider. I had one stitch!!
Posted 19 April 2012 - 04:17 PM
beebs09, you sound much like me. I wanted a water birth with my son, but he was posterior. So I laboured in the water without pain relief for the last 6 hours of my 21 hour labour, but was not getting the urge to push when I should have, because of his positioning. So I got out of the bath and we tried a variety of positions to encourage the urge. Nothing worked. I was starting to worry that they'd have to intervene (I was in a birth centre and was deadset on zero intervention or drugs), then the head middie (who I will forever LOVE) suggested a position where I lay on the bed on my back, with a couple of rolled up towels under my lower back (coxic really). BANG! I suddenly had the urge to push. This enabled me to have a drug-free, posterior birth. It wasn't easy, and I didn't get to birth in the bath, but it was pretty damn close to what I wanted.
Posted 20 April 2012 - 01:39 PM
I had a posterior presentation at the birth of my DS. Nobody told me he was posterior though and I didn't guess during my labour as I had no back pain etc. I did have a very slow progression during labour though. This happens because the baby's head is not putting nice even pressure on the cervix which helps it to dilate.
I can highly recommend the book 'Birth Skills' by Juju Sundin and Sarah Murdoch. This book explains posterior birth in detail and recommends positions that you can adapt during the birth to help your baby turn themselves ready for delivery. If my next baby is posterior (now 35 weeks pregnant) I will know exactly the questions to ask the midwives/ob and positions to adapt to help myself and baby get the best outcomes with hopefully minimal intervention.
Posted 20 April 2012 - 01:46 PM
Spend as much time as you can on hands and knees, preferably shoulders lower than hips. Never sit with your knees up as high as your hips - perch on chairs, use a Swiss ball to sit on. Hopefully baby will spin over.
Posted 20 April 2012 - 01:56 PM
My first baby was posterior and the labour was over 20 hours and very difficult. So for my second pregnancy I did a lot of exercises to help keep the baby the right way around and the second labour was only around 6 hours and so much easier.
I recommend spending about 15 minutes in the morning and at night, on your hands and knees rocking from side to side and back and forth. That is what worked for me.
I found some information at: http://www.bubhub.com.au/info/articles/bir...or_labour.shtml
Activities that will help get the best position for baby are:
- Watching TV on a dining chair, even turning the chair around and leaning over the back
- Leaning over a beanbag
- Sitting on a lounge with a pillow under your bottom
- Lying down with one leg forward, and a pillow to support the tummy
- Sitting on a fit ball if you are doing office work
- Using a pillow in car seats so that your knees are lower than your hips
- Swimming and yoga, as these are both good exercises - but avoid any deep squats
- Pelvic rocking for 15 minutes every day, if you can. This involves getting on all fours and rocking from side to side. If you have steps, climb up and down them in a sideways position.
Edited by MAGS24, 20 April 2012 - 01:59 PM.
Posted 20 April 2012 - 01:57 PM
Just had my posterior baby! He was anterior up until the end too, little devil!
My first (anterior) labour was 2.5 hours post induction with 1 hour second stage and easy delivery
This labour was 5 hours from first contraction to delivery. I went in only because my Ob had told me to come in early and inwas sure I'd be sent home as I was only having 1 contraction every 20 minutes, but i was 6 cm on arrival and fully dilated a half hour later (so about 2.5 hours from first contraction). Everyone got ready for a quick second stage - and then nothin happened. Contractions picked up to 2 in 10 with severe back pain, and I needed to push, but he wouldn't descend and that's when they realized he was posterior. Because they were worried about a fast second stage, the midwife kept askin me to lie on the bed which was torture. We tried sitting on the toilet, leaning over the bed and finally a good compromise was on my knees leaning over the back of the bed (so if the baby did miraculously 'drop out' it would be onto the bed). For me, leaning back and pushing my pelvis forward was the most comfortable and he finally made it 'around the corner' of my pelvis. From then, it was only 2 contractions to delivery. He was 4 kg and had mild shoulder dystocia so I had an episiotomy, but he was otherwise fine.
It was a harder labour than my first, but I still didn't need any analgesia. And I actually have recovered remarkably well from it.
Don't get too down about a posterior baby. If your midwife/Ob is on board with it, they'll get him or her out!
Posted 20 April 2012 - 02:03 PM
All my four kids were posterior, it was horrendous pain.
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