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Posted 11 February 2012 - 09:15 PM
SarahBubble - of course this is where you should post. And I can't imagine why you think you're lucky or any better off than anyone else here? We've all been through something like what you've just experienced. I'm thankful for your sake that at least the staff you were involved with were so kind and compassionate.
I'm so sorry you have had to farewell your baby while you were probably still celebrating the pregnancy. I completely understand the feeling that you are still pregnant. I had my baby at 21 weeks and had been feeling him kick for about a month by then. I still "felt" kicks for several months after his birth. I wish I could give you some answers to your questions, but unfortunately I don't know them either. I can say that over the last 4 months my emotions have been very up and down. I'm not sure that we can reconcile all the conflicting emotions - just that with time and being gentle and kind to ourselves hopefully we find some peace with what has happened.
AFM - I was just revisiting this page as I'm struggling a bit myself right now, having just passed my due date. I'm so fed up with people not wanting to hear me talk about it. It seems to make others so uncomfortable and they change the subject so quickly. Luckily I am seeing a lovely counsellor, but she doesn't make up for the complete lack of family and friends willing to listen to me if I'm a bit down. I'm fortunate to have a great husband and beautiful 2yo son and I really do enjoy them so much, but my heart breaks for the baby I should be holding in my arms now... I also seem to be going through a really angry phase at the moment - and I'm really jealous of other women with babies. These feelings seem so mean and nasty, but that's how I feel. Has anyone else felt like this?
Posted 17 February 2012 - 06:16 AM
I am new here and would like some advise please. We have been faced with the harrowing decision to terminate at 20 weeks and have just found out our options for termination last night. I am hoping this will all occur Monday or tues, how will I get through the next few days??
Sorry this is sensitive ....... I am thankfully not having to give birth (sorry but this upsets me too much) but as you would all know the procedure will be horrific enough. I am going through a clinic in SA and it will be a two day procedure... Has anyone been through this procedure, similar to a D & C?
I am very upset and I guess looking for reassurance that I am strong enough to get through this... The tears are flowing as I write.
Pls, pls tell me how you coped?
Posted 17 February 2012 - 08:47 AM
I am so sorry to hear you have found yourself in our little community. *hugs*
I cant give you much insight into the proceedure your having, I gave birth to my little man at 18w as surgery wasnt an option, he was our first pregnancy... I have to say although it was the hardest thing I have ever done in my life, I am glad I did it. Felt like I had done the full circle, I got to hold/cuddle him and they gave us some keepsakes.. The hospital took photos and will hold onto them untill we are ready to see them (if ever).. One thing that took me by surprise was my milk came in, 3 days later. I have since learned that there are some pills you can get to avoid it. I would enquire, having huge engorged breasts is not pleasant when you feel so vulnerable.
I highly recommend contacting your local SIDS n KIDS, they have a few options, 1on1, group (special termination due to abnormality), phone or inperson etc.. I really didnt think it was for me, but after a few months, I felt like I didnt have anyone to talk to and they were there, its free and really helpful..
I wish you all the strength in the world to get through the next week, its hard and sh*tty and no-one should ever be in this position. Cry and Cry and Cry some more, whatever you feel is normal and ok. Hang in there, oneday it will get better..
Seems typical of family/friends to just not want to talk about it.. I feel like sometimes its all I talk about.. But your right, thats where counselling does help. I am part of group sessions now and we have a little b*tch session at the end about family/friends lack of support, always makes us feel better.. Its amazing how being able to talk openly about it makes you feel.
I went through a stage where I didnt want to leave the house due to babies/pregnant women.. It made me so incredibly mad.. I felt like it was just so unfair, I felt ripped off and even though it was our choice to end the pregnancy when we did it didnt make me feel any better... It passed but honestly it was probably only because I suddenly found myself expecting again..
hugs to you... I really hope your still feeling mild improvement.. I think what makes this community special is that we all got to say goodbye to our children in one way or another. I have personally gained a mountain of support and strength from this group, and I hope you (and the other ladies) do too..
Your such a strong women being able to make that big call all on our own. Your partner sounds like a brilliant man, take strength in the support from him and your DD.
Easter will be the 1yr anniversary of saying goodbye to Liam.. My heart just breaks thinking about it.. 1 whole year.. Im sitting at home now waiting for this surprise baby to arrive.. hes due 1 month before that anniversary.. I dont know if I am scared or excited or ready or what.. I know it will be OK and that so many of you have already walked in my shoes and come out the other side being able to love the next baby just as much (or is it I am scared I wont love Liam as much?)..
hugs to everyone.
Posted 19 February 2012 - 05:41 PM
Maz - I can relate very strongly to the feelings you described. Both in terms of feeling like family/friends dont want to hear about it anymore and feeling angry at parents with their babies. I dont know what to do with that anger. Sometimes I think it does seem mean and unreasonable but I do feel it and I cant really change it. I think because it just highlights what I should have and the unfairness of that seems so great that I am just so angry.
Brontie - Thinking of you and your Liam as the 1yr anniversary approaches.
ZKP - I am so sorry for the loss of your little boy, Kimon. The decision ways heavy on my mind also. I think that part of it is something no one can understand who hasnt had to make it. Sometimes I try to explain how hard that decision is and how it stays with you but I dont think people understand. I always try to tell myself what you said - that we made this decision through love and kindness. But it doesnt always change the feelings you have.
Haras - I am so so sorry that you are facing this. I wish I had some good advice for you but the truth is I dont know how we cope with this. It is such a hard thing to go through. Even now I am trying to find some words of strength for you but at a time like this I think language fails. Just know I am thinking of you and we are all here for you. Please reach out to any support you can at this tough time. x x x
SarahBubble - Im so sorry you received such devastating news and had to make such a difficult decision. You were very strong to go through so much on your own. Im glad you have the support of a wonderful dh, it certainly does help. Thinking of you x
AFM - 3 months on and I dont feel like I have moved on at all. If anything things get harder. I do start worrying that I will never be a parent and I wonder what went wrong with our little angel and why this happens to us. But no one understands, even people who were sad with you at the time have now moved on. Which is ok of course they move on with their lives but I just hate that they treat me like Ive moved on too. I know that people dont want to talk about it all the time but its hard for me not to talk about it. I find it really hard to have a normal conversation like nothing happened and Im fine and as if I dont think about it anymore. I feel like Im always acting and never really get to be me how I really am.
Posted 21 February 2012 - 01:30 PM
Thanks for your support and kind words, I'm still finding it almost surreal that such a short time ago we were happily waiting to tell everyone we were pregnant, luckily a few people knew so they've been great. Maz I feel for you - at this stage I'm lucky I can talk to people and they don't mind. I'm here if you need a chat
Gaia - *hugs* I can't imagine how tough that would be - hard enough to try and stay strong let alone wondering what happened. Fingers and toes crossed for you.
Bronte - thinking of you as Liam's anniversary approaches, and I'm sure he'll always hold a special corner of your heart all to himself, just as he deserves to. Nothing will diminish his importance, but that doesn't mean that your new little person will be overshadowed either - anyone going through a loss like this has a special understanding of the importance of little people
Haras - I wish you all the best for this time, I don't know what its going to be like for you, but I hope you get as much time as you need with your little one, and all the support in the world. Thinking of you xoxox
I'm sitting here letting myself cry at what was meant to be, listening to Adele 21, and grateful that you all know what its like. Strange that its a consolation, but that support is huge. I am immensely lucky that my friends and family are not expecting me to 'get over it', I think in some ways they're surprised that DH needs to as well. Poor boy got a bit forgotten at the start I think. I'm still waiting for karotyping results, so its a waiting game for us to know where to go from here, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Big hugs to all, thanks for your time
Posted 05 March 2012 - 06:41 PM
I recently went to the hospital I delivered Liam at and stood in the birth suite where he came and went so preciously.. That room was giving me nightmares, so I decided before I could embark on delivering my next son, I need to see that it was just a room and there is nothing to be afraid of..
Needless to say I cried all morning, all the way there but once inside I took a deep breath and smiled.. A weight was lifted and I finally felt like I understood all those emotions deep down inside, hidden..
On a happy note I delivered the next day, a week early. A healthy boy who looks just like his angel brother. My heart is filled with love for them both, and I still wish Liam was here, and we could be all together. Liam is his middle name, so he will always know he has a brother looking over him. It was my husbands idea.
Be brave everyone, sending love to you all.
Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:58 PM
Brontie - congratulations! I'm so pleased for you that the weight lifted before you had your second beautiful boy. It's a wonderful idea to keep Liam's name in your second son's. I hope you're really enjoying your new bub and that it is everything you hoped for and missed out on the first time around.
Posted 23 March 2012 - 08:22 PM
Brontie - Congratulations on the birth of your son. That is wonderful news. There must also be moments when it is bitter sweet as he would remind you so much of your Liam. Congratulations again and I hope you are enjoying the time with your baby.
I hope everyone else is doing ok. The fact that it is so quiet in here is hopefully is a good sign that people are coping.
I am having a really bad night. Dh is out and I am on my own. I have the flu which is really bringing me down and I know the fact I am physically so exhausted is half the reason for feeling overwhelmed with negative emotion. I just feel so down right now. I dont have anyone to talk to as family and friends have put me in the too hard basket. Which is ok, I know it is hard dealing with some one long term who isnt getting over things. But now Im sick and dh is out and I just feel so alone and uncared about. I know I am being a bit of an emotional sook like I do generally when Im sick. But I think its also that Im too exhausted to keep at bay all the feelings which I have been ignoring.
Anyway I just thought Id come here and get some things out as I dont really have anywhere else.
Thinking of you all x x
Edited by *Gaia*, 25 October 2012 - 03:31 PM.
Posted 24 March 2012 - 02:32 PM
Hi Girls - I have never actually posted in here but have spent a lot of time reading others experiences. I have just never found the words I wanted to write. I terminated at 13 weeks a baby in anacephalies and as you all know it is a hard road and I have had good days and bad days.
Gaia - I couldn't read your post and not reply. I'm so sorry to hear that you were having a bad night yesterday. I too seem to really struggle emotionally when I am sick/tired/stressed and nearly always when I am home by myself. I tend to tourture myself as well by watching stupid shows like teen mom. I have personally found that I cope better when I am busy and have been throwing myself into work and designing a new house. I know sometimes its hard to get off the couch and ask someone for help - but is there anyone you can reach out too? I know you said that everyone is sick of you - but maybe you just need to explain the situation and how you are feeling to them and ask for some more support.
I am so sorry about what you are going through with your sister. I hope you can sort things out - it would be such a shame for you not to be involved in this part of her life.
Just wanted to send you my love and best wishes. I hope today was easier x
Posted 31 March 2012 - 06:52 PM
I also hope the silence in here is a good sign for everyone..
Tomorrow (April Fools Day) is the anniversary of when we were dealt the worst news ever about Liam.. It was also the day we made the hardest decision ever.. But one I will stand by. Tuesday morning will be 1 year since he came and went so peacefully, just thinking about it makes me cry. I miss him everyday..
Were planning to visit him and lay a rock ornament at the memorial, I am a bit nervous about it. Like most things the thought of it is worse that the actual doing, I get all worked up about it, but then when I am in the moment its not that bad and I feel better..
I hope your feeling better, its hard when your alone.. Sending you hugs.
Posted 09 April 2012 - 09:11 AM
Bump, as I don't want this support group to be lost off the front page of this area.
Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:24 AM
Sorry to read that there are new members to this group. It's such a fantastic place to come and share what's almost impossible to put into words.
It's 18 months since we said goodbye to our Trisome 18 baby.
I had waited over a month between the 12 week results showing our baby might have Trisome 18 to have it confirmed (odds were 1/37) and went for a D&E. I had so many surgical procedures in the past, it seemed an easy option and the thought of going through a birth freaked me out.
If anyone else comes to this forum wondering what decision to make, it's so hard and not a decision you want to be faced with. I wish I had opted for induced birth. She was such a special and wanted baby that I feel such regret for the clinical way I ended her life. It can't be changed and I don't dwell on it but if I had my time again, I would do it differently. It felt like the right decision at the time so I have to trust that is what I could cope with. We still have her footprints and ashes which are very special.
It was also asked how to get through it. It's so hard. I had a day spa treatment every day for a week (it made me leave the house!) I didn't and couldn't speak to the people, just lay down!! I had amazing support from my friends who knew about it. Lots of flowers, hampers and comforting messages. My husband found is so hard and really benefited from the counselling through SIDS.
I hope that helps anyone else who finds themselves here. Big big hugs.
Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:42 AM
I don't come in here very often any more as it is 4 1/2 years since my Mimmi became an Angel at 18 and a half weeks and I have moved on quite well. This group used to be my life-line, though, in the early days. The support, understanding and love I felt in here will be with me always. I am so amazed that the group is still going, and so pleased that it is still a place where women (and the occasional man over the years) can come and find solace and speak freely about how they are feeling. I am actually the person who started the thread but never in a million years did I think it would still be going after all this time. It makes me feel good to think that I have actually done something good for people.
Brontie - I love how you have given your son Liam's name as a middle name. I would like to think that I would have done the same, if I had gone on to have a Rainbow baby. I never did as I have a daughter and son already and was 46 when I had Mimmi. (I don't really like talking about my age but I do like to share the fact that I am older mother as it gives encouragement to others who may think it is too late for them to have a baby. I had my daughter at 37 and son at 44.)
'Gaia' - I know that feeling of "acting". I did a lot of that in the beginning, too. It does take time to become yourself again, and to be honest I think we will only ever be 99% of our old selves, after what we have been through. I hope and believe that you will find peace and some sort of acceptance eventually.
Everyone else, I am so glad you are here supporting each other and helping each other heal. I would honestly not be here today if it was not for the women in this group.
Love to everyone,
Posted 24 April 2012 - 09:34 PM
Wow, I wish I had found this forum a 6 weeks ago!! I too have had to make the heart renching decisions, so many here have. I would like to share my story as my friends don't seem to want to talk about it, and I don't want to worry my husband too much.
We were floating in our happy little bubble, expecting our first child, a planned and so wanted baby. But had our bubble burst with the 2 days of bad news. The first day the doctor tells me I have had a high grade abnormality come back on my Pap Smear (which was done early because of bleeding), but got to the end of this day thinking baby is ok and this is treatable!
The second day (yep straight after that news), the doc calls and again and wants to discuss the 19 weeks scan. The doc says our baby has severe heart and brain problems, had to wait 4 sleeps to see the specialists, it was confirmed plus more problems. Had an amino the next day and it was confirmed Trisomy 18.
I didn't even now what this was or that is was a possibility, our 12 week results came back low risk (1 in 1627 for T18), but the doctors just kept saying it's an incompatibility with life. We choose to terminate at this stage I was 20 weeks. But because I live in QLD we had to wait to see the right doctor to be able to take RU486 in order help things go better (giving birth was my only option, they wouldn't do a medical termination). By the time things happened I was 22 weeks, and Amelia was born 22+3 weeks, 300g and 26.5cm long.
Now things have settled with the baby, I am now worried about the CIN3 pap result as I have another couple of weeks to wait to get this looked at, I'm really worried it will affect my chances of falling pregnant or to carry a baby to full term. Amelia can't be my only experience with pregnancy or birth!
Sorry for the long post, I really needed to say this all again as sometimes it just seems like a bad dream.
Posted 03 June 2012 - 07:53 AM
Z-K-L, I am glad this thread has brought you comfort and helped you and others. The irony/wonderful thing is that I started the thread as an outlet for my own grief and then it went on to become something very special.
I know what you mean by saying you feel that your little Kimon is abandoned down the coast. I often think of my Mimmi in the Baby Angel Garden. I am so glad we chose the Baby Angel Garden, though, and not a grave as such, as I would feel guilty if I did not go there and tend to it all the time. She has a plaque on a big boulder set amongst other plaques and other big boulders with plaques in a beautiful little wooded area in one corner of a cemetery. Absolutely beautiful. Kimon knows he is in your heart, and think of how free his spirit is, having been scattered. And you still have some of his ashes. Perfect combination.
ABABA, I am glad you found the thread eventually and please don't apologise for the length of the post. This is a safe place to "let it all out" and everyone on here has been through what you have. I am so sorry for your loss of little Amelia and I can imagine how awful it must have been to have been kept waiting to see the specialist. I hope the last few weeks have been a bit more peaceful for you and that your results came back ok.
Everyone else - you are always in my thoughts.
Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:51 PM
It is with a heavy heart that I have found your support thread.
Our Daughter Isobella Rose has mosaic Trisomy 18. I am at a loss as to what to do as DH is away at the moment and I won't do anything til he is back but all I want to do is cry all the time.
I have a DS (2 years) who atm is being amazing with lots of extra cuddles even though he has no idea what is going on.
Please tell me that is gets easier to bear as my heart feels like it is broken in two and I can't survive like this...
Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:16 PM
Kirsee I couldn't read your post without replying. Firstly I am so sorry, this is not a nice position to be in. I haven't posted in here for such a long time but I do understand your pain. Our daughter Elli become an angel 4yrs ago and while the pain is always with you it does change from being the thing that consumes you to still being there but with you being able to cope with life, but believe me this can take a very long time.
Please remember though grief has no time limit some days are easier than others. This forum has been such a safe place to come for lots of people with everyone knowing how you feel to some extent or another and no one will judge so please come back and have a yell anytime you need to.
Posted 16 August 2012 - 05:10 PM
I could have written GAIA's original post word for word as it is how I am feeling right now. I just had a phone call confirming that it is full T18.
I feel horrible but I don't think I would cope with the alternative. I will do the morphology scan next week with DH present so he can see everything for himself but then I am thinking the following week I will already be 20 weeks and I can't do this for much longer, knowing I am carrying my daughter to die is killing me...
Posted 17 August 2012 - 02:39 PM
Hi everyone, The last year has been quite traumatic for me. Last year I m/c at 6weeks then fell preg the very next month and found out just after Xmas in Jan this year that my baby had Edwards Syndrome. I was 14.5wks and it was the hardest thing I have had to do. My ob was fantastic about it. The one thing I must say is that there is not much support for mums. The genetic counselor rang me with the news and that was the first and last time I have spoken to anyone about it. Most people have been extremely supportive and if they haven't been I am none the wiser as they haven't said anything directly to me (except one). We have been trying again since March and tested + last night. I am sitting here crying, stressing and wondering if I will be again dealt another horrible hand. Firstly will I make it to 12weeks, if I do and it doesn't have edwards will it be another chromosome disorder and if I am lucky enough to get through that will I have a healthy baby. I am lucky enough to have 2 healthy boys and feel maybe I have tempted fate too many times..... I know stress is not good but its so hard not to be when you have been through something like this as you all know. I am now 41 and keep thinking that ups the chances of something being wrong again. I feel so, so, so very guilty about what I have done. I wonder if I will be punished this time around.... I know I am lucky to have 2 healthy boys but would love a 3rd child. My husband and I don't really discuss the past which I also find hard to deal with. I don't really have anyone to talk about it to as no-one I know has been through it. Many of my friends have had mc but not T18. I feel even more guilt bc a friend of mine mc at 10wks and named her baby and I didn't do anything like that. She was posting quite a bit on fb at the time about the name amongst other things and it wasn't long after mine and the guilt I felt was enormous. Should I have done something like that.... I am now so scared that if its not Edwards my baby might have another anomaly. Does anyone know the likelihood of lighting striking twice in the same place given my age. Thanks for letting me post I sort of didn't know what else to do but wanted to get some advice. I am really, really, really scared as I am not sure I can get through another one again.
Kirsee - I found out and was booked in the following day. I felt exactly like you do, and it was a terrible time. Good luck with your decision its such a heart wrenching one and I know exactly what you are going through.
Posted 17 August 2012 - 09:10 PM
hey zord, I am 40, and 23 weeks pregnant. We terminated a pregnancy last march (2011).
To say I was stressed leading up to the scan is an understatement. So far all is fine. The genetic councellors were really good to me, as were my GP's. I am doing shared care at the moment, and my GP is so understanding, she listens to all my concerns and has not once fobbed me off. Is totally realistic with me as well.
So find some good carers that you are comfortable with.
I have found that pregnancy is no longer a lovely innocent experience for me. It is fraught with doubt and concern. I often feel that I have too have rolled the dice one time too many. I hope with all my heart that everything is ok with this little guy. I have had all the testing I can, but the doubt has not subsided.
I have had a few other things happen in the period since it all happened, that have caused me distress(can't bring myself to talk about it yet) I have had a lot of councelling. The pain has subsided, but there is lingering guilt and doubt.
I have just realised this is my first post in this group. Not sure what my intention was, maybe I feel I can get it out there, but really just wanted to let you know you are not alone in your thinking. Hope all goes well for, as it has so far for me.
Edit, as for lightening, I was told that your risk is now double, so the age risk is 1:106, but for me it was 1:53. But everyone said the chance is slim, it is like lightening striking twice.
Edited by wallofdodo, 17 August 2012 - 09:14 PM.
Posted 18 August 2012 - 07:10 PM
Hi Wallofdodo and others.
I really feel your pain. I'm so sorry for what you've been through.
This is my first post here. While I have not yet had bad news, I have to say that as a mid forties, first time pregnant to 10 wks, woman, I pretty much take if for granted that there is a very significant chance of a birth defect and therefore, I am preparing myself for termination rather than a birth - until after the results of the CVS. It's a very bittersweet time, because I shared the grief and pain of many of my friends as they dealt with terminations, genetic abnormalities and miscarriages that are all part of the package of conception for those with fertility challenges (age related and other). I just understand that there are so many risks - I'm hesitant to even consider this a pregnancy. It's also very lonely, because I am unable to share that I am pregnant - even with my friends, because if it isn't viable, I don't want to have to explain this to too many people. I'd like to grieve privately or at least have control over who knows about my pain.
Whether it's failed IVF attempts, early miscarriages, early loss of ovulation, we struggle because we are still the early generation of women where we have both; the power and the science to make these heart wrenching decisions. But we lack adequate avenues to discuss or prepare for this trauma. Thirty-Forty years ago, many of these decisions were made for women, and women had neither the knowledge nor the choice to terminate pregnancies that weren't viable. And our Mums were less likely to discuss terminations or miscarriages. However, this trauma is now increasingly common and we probably need to be more open in discussing this pain and recognizing this as now part of the normal pregnancy-birth process. Just my 2 cents. So this forum is great.
Posted 10 October 2012 - 02:37 PM
Unfortunately I need to join this group... I was part of the High Risk NT results group and we have now had our results confirmed that our baby has severe chromosomal abnormalities.
I'm 18 weeks this week, and at this stage I am hoping to miscarry before we have to make the decision to terminate. Its a decision I don't want to have to make, but as time is going on I am coming to accept it more.
My DH is not coping... he thinks he is, but his way of coping is by telling himself that this is not our baby. He wants the termination to happen before 20 weeks so we won't have to have a funeral, won't have a death certificate, etc.
I am trying to compromise... I asked for the 20 week scan to be brought forward to next week which will show whether I am likely to miscarry soon or not (but they said if it shows a normal baby that won't be helpful).
I've tried to book in to see a counsellor that we saw when having marriage issues a few years back but she is booked out til Nov. I said that is too late and we are on a wait list in case someone cancels.
I just think that this councelor is the only one that DH is likely to agree to see... when I brought up councelling earlier he dismissed it saying he doesn't need it.
(that was talking about the one that work has offered, where we get 3 free sessions)
I have a beautiful SIL who unfortunately lives a 4 hour plane ride away... I just rang her and had a chat... she is coming down this weekend for a wedding, and said she will try to talk to DH while she is down. She is actually planning on moving back down to Vic in Nov... and even she said she wishes it was earlier now.
sorry this is all over the place... so many things going through my mind... my work have let me work from home the next couple of weeks, but it is hard when you have a phone meeting one minute, and the next you are looking up pregnancy loss Australia websites... they have been great though and have offered to backfill me if I need time off... its just that I would rather wait until after the miscarriage / termination when I will really need it.
I guess this post has been sitting here long enough now... just need to click that Add Reply button...
Posted 10 October 2012 - 02:53 PM
I am so sorry you need to join our group
I know this is going to sound horrible but if you do make it to 20 weeks you are entitled to the baby bonus. Re Funeral we had our little girl cremated at no cost to us thru tobin bros and that counts as far as the government is concerned.
I wish that I was there to give you a hug in person that I know you desperately need.
Posted 12 October 2012 - 08:59 AM
Yesterday was an ok day, but I feel that today is going to be another bad day...
I got an email from someone at work (kind of like a boss, but not quite), asking when I am going to come back to the office (I'm working from home until the end of all this... too many people were starting to notice that I am pregnant and ask questions).
I don't even know what to say... I started to feel sick just thinking about it...
I need to call the genetic councelor today to ask about our US date... I got a letter in the mail saying it is the 26th Oct, but that is after I am 20 weeks...
If that is the only date we get I don't know how DH is going to react... I feel like he will blame me, coz it has taken me this long to get to the point where I am feeling more comfortable with the termination... previously I just couldn't go there I was still thinking there was some hope, or maybe they had got it wrong.
What if that is the only appt we can get, and have to have that before they can induce me?
How soon after that appt would they book us in?
These are all questions I need to ask when I ring... I will probably work up the courage to call and nobody will answer!
thanks for the info on the baby bonus... I kind of thought that in the back of my mind but thought it was not appropriate to ask about!
Since the funeral is the big thing issue with my DH at the moment, does anyone else have any info for me? Do they do it like a normal funeral? As terrible as this sounds, would they do it without us there?
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Kerryn has a unusual present planned for daughter Imi's 13th birthday celebrations - she hopes to be able to be able to give the soon-to-be the teenager her first ever photo of her dad.
Our houses are cleaner than ever before. But how clean is too clean? Could a sterile home be putting your family's health at risk?
Here's a puzzle that grows with them; the Puzzle Grow Pack by Millions of Monkeys.
If you grew up in the 90s you might want to look to the genre of Britpop music for baby name inspiration.
When you catch a bug that causes acute infectious gastroenteritis (gastro), your stomach and intestinal tract become inflamed, causing diarrhoea, nausea, vomiting, abdominal cramping and pain. The last thing you probably feel like doing is eating.
Would I have survived if I hadn't crossed that street?
Caitlin is a firm believer in the importance of immunisation to protect children from harmful and deadly diseases.
There is no make-up or special outfits and hairdos, but the five-year-old boy who took this picture captured the essence of motherhood as well as any professional photographer.
Studies have shown that infants in the first months of life try to avoid dealing with social wrongdoers - for example, sharing less with them and helping them less - and they expect others to, too.
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Bethani Webb was excited to find out she was pregnant, but the first time mum did not realise she was carrying four babies not one.
A Sydney cafe is offering breastfeeding mums free cups of tea in a bid to show support for the right of women to nurse their babies wherever they choose.
Jamie Oliver, who considered a vasectomy, is to be a father again. A fellow dad reflects on his own decision 11 years ago
To everyone's surprise, Kristen Miller "kept doing better each day", keeping her second baby safe.
Before my son was born I was given a lovely baby book full of blank pages waiting to be filled with weights and heights and first words.
There is no doubt seeing their child smile for the first time is an unforgettable moment for parents everywhere.
When Alison Johnson put her 18-month-old Caleb down for a nap, she had no reason to believe her son was in any danger.
All my panic and tears aside, my biggest question looking back is about the kind of security measures used in the maternity ward.
Everyone who visits a mum in hospital in the days following childbirth wants to get a photo with the new baby.
Finally, there's a way to keep warm while breastfeeding through winter.
What to do with this information? My advice would be to try not to think about it during the throes of passion.
From niplash to tight boobs, biting to milk supply issues, Pinky McKay looks at common breastfeeding issues and how to solve them.
Six months on we're all still alive, and the more we get to know each other the easier the days become.
Kirsty Carrington thought nothing of giving her newborn son a kiss, little did she know it would leave the baby fighting for life.
After children, 'me time' looks a little different.
A stroller can make or break travelling with a baby or toddler. Here are 15 great single travel stroller options.
It always pays to remind yourself of how terrific toddlers can be - they're little like this for such a short time
This is the comp for you! We have $800 worth of Myer gift cards and boxes of Australian Bananas to be won. Entry is simple: just post a pic of your little one enjoying a banana in the comments of the FB post to enter.