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#1 Freckles

Posted 11 September 2011 - 05:53 PM

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Old thread is here.

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This is a support thread for couples who have been TTC for over 12+ months or have secondary infertility TTC #2 onwards. It doesn't matter if your trying for your 2nd or your 10th - or if your using AC or trying naturally - everyone is welcome.

Please feel free to join us and hopefully like past members, not be part of this group for to long - for good reasons  biggrin.gif



Beep - TTC#2 - 23+ Years - 14 x Clomid BFNs, still going on Clomid - M/C 2010
Chucklebury - TTC#2 - 1 M/C
Kezball - TTC#3 - 17+ Months - M/C June '11
Lachlans_Mummy - TTC#2 - 12+ Months - 5 M/C
LiMa - TTC#2 - 3+ Years - M/C Sept '10
Number4please - TTC#4 - 21+ Months - 2 M/C June '11 & July '11 - 3 x Clomid BFNs
Raffi06 - TTC#2 - 3+ Years - starting IUI soon - Nov '11 suggested IVF
Shellby - TTC#3 - 4 Years - 3 M/Cs March '08, Feb '11 & August '11 - 6 x Clomid all BFN, Progesterone Trial - BFP but early loss. Has now finished TTC after 4 years.
Silver-rain - TTC#2 - 18+ Months - 2 M/Cs Dec '10 & Dec '11



Alice79 - TTC #2 - 18+ Months - BFP June '11 Natural cycle before IVF - EDD 22nd February 2012
Beautiful Disaster - TTC#4 - 15+ Months - 1 M/C '09 - BFP August '11 1st Clomid Cycle
HaleyW - TTC#2 - 2+ Years - BFP January '12 IVF#2, 5 x IUI BFN's moving onto IVF - MFI, IVF #1 Oct '11 BFP but M/C Nov '11
hmd - TTC #2 - 18+ Months - 1 M/C, BFP May '11 Natural
Kodie - TTC #2 - 14+ Months - 4 x Clomid BFN - BFP August '11 Natural - EDD April 2012
*littlemircles* - TTC#2 - 3+ Years - BFP January '12 Natural
Maximan - TTC#2 - 21+ Months - Planning IVF Dec '11 - BFP August '11 Natural Cycle with Vit B shot - EDD April 2012
Mumalbi - TTC #2 - 2+ Years - 1 EP & 1 M/C - BFP June '11 Natural cycle before IVF - EDD February 2012
Mum_Megan - TTC#2 - 3+ Years - 3 M/C - BFP April '11 Natural using Aspirin and SMEP - EDD January 2012
Red Cabbage - TTC #7 - 2+ Years - BFP April '11 Natural - EDD January 2012


#2 Ness75

Posted 12 September 2011 - 02:51 PM

It is way too quiet in here. Hoping to get some more chatter going.

I am on day 5 of a new cycle and almost through all my doses of the 150mg of clomid for this cycle. Really hoping to see what a follicle actually looks like this month wink.gif .

Started to panic this morning though as i am booked to have a cortisone injection into my shoulder tommorrow so i googled it to see what the side effects are and found many comments about it messing with the adrenal gland and screwing up menstrual cycles. I made a panicked call to my RE to find out if it was likely to waste this cycle but he said it was ok to go ahead. So fingers crossed all will be well.

Who is still about and where are you at with TTC at the moment?

#3 bokbok

Posted 12 September 2011 - 09:51 PM

Yes it is very quiet in here...well I am on CD11 and am going to my GP tomorrow to have a chat to him about a few things and where to from here. Getting so frustrated by it all and just want some answers!!

number4please - hope you have some success with the Clomid this month!!

Hope everyone else is going ok - where is everyone up to?

#4 kezball

Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:55 PM

Hey All,
I am about to start my first clomid cycle (serophene)....I'm nervous about it actually...worried about side effects etc.
Tomorrow is CD4.
Not much else going on.


#5 Ness75

Posted 13 September 2011 - 07:51 AM

Raffi i hope you get some answers from the G.P. its so frustrating not knowing whats going on.

Kezball I am on my 3rd month of clomid now and so far the only side effect i have seen is the odd hot flush so you might get lucky. Mind you it hasnt made me ovulate yet either. But the FS did say that lots of people get no side effects.

Edited by number4please, 13 September 2011 - 07:53 AM.


#6 thinking about babies

Posted 13 September 2011 - 08:01 AM

Hi Everyone,

I never thought I would have to join this group, but I have now been TTC #2 for 12 months, after falling pg 2nd cycle with DD.

I am booked in for a hyteroscopy next Monday as have long cycles with mid cycle bleeding. My FS is then going to put me on clomid. My FS said he might artificially bring on my AF after the surgery so I don't have to wait another 60 days to start my clomid cycle. Has anyone had a hysteroscopy or artificial period and what was ur experience?

Looking forward to chatting with u all, but hope all our stay in this group is short lived!

#7 bokbok

Posted 13 September 2011 - 10:19 AM

Hi thinking about babies - our stories sound very similar - I fell pregnant on 2nd cycle with my DD too and now have been TTC #2 for over 3 yrs.
Is the hyteroscopy where they do the dye test to see if your tubes are clear? If so I had this done a few months ago and all came back clear...it didn't hurt me at all just a bit uncomfortable and a bit of discharge for a little while later but nothing major. I have been on Clomid for 8 mths last year and no luck unfortunately.

I have also had the drug to bring on AF artificially - I took Primolut as even on Clomid I was not having regular AF...it is just tablets that you take and usually within 10days your AF arrives as normal. I don't have to take it now though as my AF has decided to be more regular - well regular as between 30 and 40 days but still not sure if i am actually ovulating or not.

I hope you have some success soon and welcome to our group we are very supportive of each other!

Kezball - good luck for this month on clomid - seems to be a few on it for this month - let's hope it produces some good results!!

I will update later once I have been to the doctors.

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#8 BulaFiji

Posted 13 September 2011 - 03:17 PM

Hi Ladies,

I am 37 years old and have been TTC #1 for 15 months, on day 5 of my cycle.  
I had a HSG (hysterosalpingogram) test in Feb which is where they insert dye into your fallopian tubes to see if they are blocked.  This test is done while you are awake, so you dont need to go under.  The procedure was not painful but it felt very uncomfortable when they insert the probe.  Unfortunately after lots of probing, the Dr gave up as she was not able to get to to the right spot to insert the dye so I was not able to see if my tubes were blocked sad.gif

From my understanding the hysteroscopy is similar procedure however it is done with a laproscopy where you go under having an anaesthetic.  

I have taken my bloods, I have high cholestorol 6.8 which I am working on reducing.  My AMH (ovarian reserve) is 7.4 and FSH is 5.9.  I need to find out if this is normal or low for my age.  My FS recommends that I have a hysteroscopy and laproscopy to get a good view of the state of my ovaries and tubes.  However I feel a bit nervous about going under when they can check the state of my tubes through a HSG.  Im thinking that surgery should be my last option, I would like to have another HSG done with a different dr, hoping that he/she can get to the spot to insert the dye, if that fails again then I have no choice but to do a laproscopy or seek IVF assistance.

Has anyone else had a HSG, hoping to hear some views on HSG v Laproscopy.  Is it worth skipping the HSG and just having a laproscopy, is there any reason why I would benefit more from a laproscopy?

#9 *littlemiracles*

Posted 13 September 2011 - 07:56 PM

Hello,

HOpe everyone is doing well!!!

Well a different view from me this cycle - I want AF to arrive!!!! For the first time in I don't know how long! I have a job interview in 2 weeks for a job that will do wonders for my work/family balance and one I really really want as it will help me further my career in the direction I want to head as well, so if it pans out I do get the job, it is a start with start of school year in 2012 and ttc will most def be put on hold...... possibly for good!  ohmy.gif I am just at that stage where I have realised there are other things in life and if all goes ok with interview then it will suit our little family so much and that is all I really want right now. More time with my gorgeous DD and to not have to be the wonderwoman I feel I have to be some days. So for now, its waiting for AF to arrive, due around friday this week and then avoiding the BD around the critical times  wink.gif

Oh and I've had a hysteroscopy and its when they put you under anaesthetic and do use a scope to get  a sample of your lining. Ihad a d and c done at the same time as well. I too had menstrual bleeding occuring mid cycle (well after O) and needed to get it checked.  

Goodluck with it, will check back in again soon xxx

#10 bokbok

Posted 14 September 2011 - 10:11 AM

QUOTE (*littlemiracles* @ 13/09/2011, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello,

HOpe everyone is doing well!!!

Well a different view from me this cycle - I want AF to arrive!!!! For the first time in I don't know how long! I have a job interview in 2 weeks for a job that will do wonders for my work/family balance and one I really really want as it will help me further my career in the direction I want to head as well, so if it pans out I do get the job, it is a start with start of school year in 2012 and ttc will most def be put on hold...... possibly for good!  ohmy.gif I am just at that stage where I have realised there are other things in life and if all goes ok with interview then it will suit our little family so much and that is all I really want right now. More time with my gorgeous DD and to not have to be the wonderwoman I feel I have to be some days. So for now, its waiting for AF to arrive, due around friday this week and then avoiding the BD around the critical times  wink.gif

Oh and I've had a hysteroscopy and its when they put you under anaesthetic and do use a scope to get  a sample of your lining. Ihad a d and c done at the same time as well. I too had menstrual bleeding occuring mid cycle (well after O) and needed to get it checked.  

Goodluck with it, will check back in again soon xxx




Good luck with the job interview!! Of course you know what will happen now don't you - a BFP to throw a spanner in the works!!! Hope it all works out as you want though!!

BulaFiji - welcome to the group...it's a shame the HSG didn't work I would go to another doctor as it seems a little strange they couldn't find the right place to insert the dye! I have only had a HSG done and don't know much about the laproscopy but totally understand the desire to avoid surgery if possible. My HSG came back all clear so my doctors aren't looking to do any further investigations in that regard at this point - I would start with another HSG and depending on the results of that go from there.

Do you ovulate ok by yourself? Have the dr's mentioned clomid or anything for you? Hope you can get some answers soon but it is such a minefield to wade through!

Well as for me...went to dr yesterday and he thinks we should wait a few more months before attempting IUI to see if I can lose some more weight (I have lost about 4kg so far) as it is hard for me to lose weight but am trying really really hard! He thinks there is nothing really wrong with me or DH and so really we should be getting pregnant - but we are not!! It is so frustrating!!
So giving it another good go this month and hope for the best!!!

Hope everyone else is going oK!

#11 bokbok

Posted 20 September 2011 - 10:28 AM







Where is everyone? It is too quiet in here!!

Edited by raffi06, 20 September 2011 - 10:29 AM.


#12 Ness75

Posted 20 September 2011 - 02:47 PM

I am on day 13 today and am booked for an ultrasound tommorrow morning. Almost called to cancel it as we have beenso unlucky with them to date. Have never seen a sign of a follice in 3 months. But today i have great signs of EWCM and am hoping that this 150mg clomid dose is going to show us our first follicles. would love to see more than one so as we have more chance of a sticky pregnancy but any success would be welcome right now.
I really need to see some sign of hope because its getting so hard to stay positive.


So how many of us are still reading ? tell us how you are going and lets see if we can get this group moving again.

Edited by number4please, 20 September 2011 - 02:49 PM.


#13 kezball

Posted 20 September 2011 - 05:04 PM

Number 4 please - I too am having an ultrasound tomorrow, this is my first Clomid cycle and they are monitoring it...good luck with your ultrasound too, I hope they find a few follies for you...

#14 bokbok

Posted 20 September 2011 - 06:16 PM

Good luck to Kezball and number4please for your ultrasounds tomorrow!!

I went and saw a new doc today who is a gyno/OB at my local GP surgery and she is lovely. She has suggested that I go on Clomid again for CD 2-6 and see if this helps. I am also having a blood test on monday to see if I have O'd yet this month hopefully I have.

So looks like quite a few of us are on Clomid - let's hope it helps us all!!

Good to see a few more back in this thread!! original.gif

#15 Ness75

Posted 20 September 2011 - 07:26 PM

Thanks for the good wishes, and good luck to you too kezball. Hopefully we both see something tommorrow.

Raffi what dose will you be on? I have a shocking memory at the moment so Im not sure if i have read this before but how long has it been since you tried clomid? .

ignore that question raffi, i found your previous post on your experience with clomid. has your FS ever mentioned combining clomid with metformin if your resistent to the clomid? I have read about alot of success with it.

Edited by number4please, 20 September 2011 - 07:35 PM.


#16 *littlemiracles*

Posted 21 September 2011 - 11:47 AM

Hey all,

wow goodluck to Kezball and Number4please for u/s. Hope they show lots of nice little follies in there for you both xx

Raffi - glad you have found someone who is going to work with you on issues. Always makes it so much better when you have a doc who is willing to actually help!

AFM - yep I'm still here, just not been in much. Things going well, enjoying a break from work and spending time with my gorgeous girl on holidays. We head away on a weekend away on Friday so am looking forward to that so much! Not much else happening with me, AF is in the final stages of leaving and all depends on my interview and success of that next week as to what happens next for me!!! Am in a really good place right now though! biggrin.gif

Goodluck to everyone this cycle, may it be lucky September!!! xxx

#17 Ness75

Posted 21 September 2011 - 02:42 PM

Well not a darn follicle to be seen on the ultrasound but i truely believe that i am going to o in the next day or 2 so i have been given a referral for the 21 day blood test to see how we go.
But it would appear that i have had my final dose of clomid. RE says we move to injectables from here and his preference is to do that with ivf so that he has better control over ending up with a multiple pregnancy especially since my left ovary is so hard to find to monitor. He could see it today though so thats a plus.  He said he really did not expect it to be as hard as it has been for us but its crunch time now and i really must lose 10 kilos minimum even if it only makes my left ovary easier to monitor and retrieve eggs from at pickup if we go that way. I am currently sitting at 105kg and have always known it was not ideal but this morning was a huge wakeup call.
We wont be jumping straight into IVF as we dont have private health insurance but it would appear he is happy to progress to injectables without  IVF, its just not his ideal way of doing it. Either way we will probably go it alone for the next cycle because the next month at work will make it too hard to do all the extra monitoring that he will need done.

#18 kezball

Posted 21 September 2011 - 05:26 PM

Number 4 please - I am sorry your scan results didn't show any follies, I hope you are right though and that you will O...good luck with the day 21 test.

My U/S went reasonably well, they saw 5 follies, 3 on the good (right) side and 2 on the blocked side. Not quite mature yet so having another test and ultrasound on Friday morning. The nurse was concerned though as my uterus lining was really thin so they are keeping and eye on that as well. I guess I will have to wait and see....




#19 Ness75

Posted 21 September 2011 - 05:46 PM

QUOTE (kezball @ 21/09/2011, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Number 4 please - I am sorry your scan results didn't show any follies, I hope you are right though and that you will O...good luck with the day 21 test.

My U/S went reasonably well, they saw 5 follies, 3 on the good (right) side and 2 on the blocked side. Not quite mature yet so having another test and ultrasound on Friday morning. The nurse was concerned though as my uterus lining was really thin so they are keeping and eye on that as well. I guess I will have to wait and see....



Wow that sounds really positive for you this month. My RE does all of my ultrasounds, i didnt realise that in some places they are done by nurses. My doc must be even more hands on with treatment than i thought.

I had simply ooodles of ewcm yesterday. It is more of a wetness today though but with the cramping and being day 14 of a high dos

#20 Ness75

Posted 21 September 2011 - 05:47 PM

QUOTE (kezball @ 21/09/2011, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Number 4 please - I am sorry your scan results didn't show any follies, I hope you are right though and that you will O...good luck with the day 21 test.

My U/S went reasonably well, they saw 5 follies, 3 on the good (right) side and 2 on the blocked side. Not quite mature yet so having another test and ultrasound on Friday morning. The nurse was concerned though as my uterus lining was really thin so they are keeping and eye on that as well. I guess I will have to wait and see....



Wow that sounds really positive for you this month. My RE does all of my ultrasounds, i didnt realise that in some places they are done by nurses. My doc must be even more hands on with treatment than i thought.

I had simply ooodles of ewcm yesterday. It is more of a wetness today though but with the cramping and being day 14 of a high dose i really feel its a good sign. Would you believe today of all days i forgot to take my temp until after i had been to the toilet.I took it anyway though and it was rather low and was a pointless act anyway. Guess only the next few days will tell.

#21 Ness75

Posted 22 September 2011 - 06:27 AM

QUOTE (number4please @ 21/09/2011, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow that sounds really positive for you this month. My RE does all of my ultrasounds, i didnt realise that in some places they are done by nurses. My doc must be even more hands on with treatment than i thought.

I had simply ooodles of ewcm yesterday. It is more of a wetness today though but with the cramping and being day 14 of a high dose i really feel its a good sign. Would you believe today of all days i forgot to take my temp until after i had been to the toilet.I took it anyway though and it was rather low and was a pointless act anyway. Guess only the next few days will tell.


Temp is well and truely up this morning. Gee i wish i had taken my temp properly yesterday. Oh well hoping it stays up now.

#22 kezball

Posted 23 September 2011 - 11:32 AM

Update - Looks like I'm going to fire out of my right ovary (my good side) and the endometrium (uterus lining) was much better today. Results still to come....

number4please - Keep up the BD, looks like you have O'd so good luck with that (have fun!)



#23 kezball

Posted 23 September 2011 - 04:12 PM

Further update - FS has spoken to me, all looks very good so far. I have to inject myself with Pregnyl trigger shot tomorrow as I am about to ovulate. He is very pleased with things and he is hopeful that my right tube is working (we know the left tube was def blocked but the right one wasn't letting any fluid in when we did the test so it was inconclusive). I then have to inject myself with 3 more smaller doses of pregnyl at 3, 6 and 9 days after ovulation.


#24 Ness75

Posted 23 September 2011 - 05:10 PM

QUOTE (kezball @ 23/09/2011, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Further update - FS has spoken to me, all looks very good so far. I have to inject myself with Pregnyl trigger shot tomorrow as I am about to ovulate. He is very pleased with things and he is hopeful that my right tube is working (we know the left tube was def blocked but the right one wasn't letting any fluid in when we did the test so it was inconclusive). I then have to inject myself with 3 more smaller doses of pregnyl at 3, 6 and 9 days after ovulation.

Fingers crossed for you.

#25 bokbok

Posted 23 September 2011 - 05:59 PM

QUOTE (kezball @ 23/09/2011, 02:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Further update - FS has spoken to me, all looks very good so far. I have to inject myself with Pregnyl trigger shot tomorrow as I am about to ovulate. He is very pleased with things and he is hopeful that my right tube is working (we know the left tube was def blocked but the right one wasn't letting any fluid in when we did the test so it was inconclusive). I then have to inject myself with 3 more smaller doses of pregnyl at 3, 6 and 9 days after ovulation.


Sounds promising Kezball - hope it all goes to plan and this is your month!! Will keep everything crossed for you.

number4please - how are you going? Is your temp still up - hope so and that it is a good sign!!

littlemiracles - enjoy your weekend away!! Look forward to hearing how your interview went - am glad to hear you are feeling happy right now though!!

Well as for me...am on CD21 and think I am either right now or about to ovulate!! I did a OPK yesterday and it was a little dark and just did one now again and waiting for it to show...but am getting a fair bit of ewcm - good thing if I am as we BD last night!

If no luck this month then plan with new doc is to do Clomid from CD2-6, then BD from CD10-15 and then see if I have O'd. I was on Clomid all last year with no success or even O but then I started it when I wasn't ovulating at all so doctor hoping that Clomid will just help seeing as I seem to be O'ing myself now but quite late in cycle. I am on 50mg a day.

Trying to stay so positive and not think about it all too much - but that is virtually impossible!!! Visited my 6mth old niece on Wednesday night and she is just soooo cute and adorable and I just loved having cuddles with her but it just makes my yearning for another of my own so much stronger. Hopefully this is the month for all of us!!

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