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#76 jfl

Posted 09 July 2011 - 02:26 PM

Those who have questioned Mem Fox's grasp on reality might ponder also this bizarre letter to the editor, dated 9 July (last letter in the list):

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opini...w-1226090993946

Very strange, under the circumstances.

#77 baddmammajamma

Posted 09 July 2011 - 02:43 PM

QUOTE (jfl @ 09/07/2011, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Those who have questioned Mem Fox's grasp on reality might ponder also this bizarre letter to the editor, dated 9 July (last letter in the list):

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opini...w-1226090993946

Very strange, under the circumstances.


Strange indeed. I stand by my assertion that she is delusional, especially as it relates to her husband. She might want to revisit her definition of "child abuse."

To use another famous figure from literature...


Edited by baddmammajamma, 09 July 2011 - 02:51 PM.


#78 i adore

Posted 09 July 2011 - 02:51 PM

So not buying her books, this makes me sick


Edited by i adore, 09 July 2011 - 02:52 PM.


#79 ~Sorceress~

Posted 09 July 2011 - 02:59 PM

I don't see what's wrong with that letter? shrug.gif

I'm going to feel icky reading her books for a while sad.gif ... but I still don't see the great harm in her believing her husband innocent of those charges. Do you seriously think you would stay married to a man, for thirty years, being a children's author if you believed it was remotely possible that as a 36yo teacher he would have had sex with a 17yo ex-student? In you bedroom? sick.gif

If anybody would believe Mr Fox innocent, surely she would?



#80 jfl

Posted 09 July 2011 - 03:05 PM

No one is disputing the sincerity of her belief - just the denial that seems to underpin it.

Her husband is clearly bisexual, and I just don't see how you could live with someone for 30 years without even an inkling of it, for starters, without a hefty amount of denial. Or, if she did know, why did he never mention this kid who was supposedly practically raping him? His whole story just doesn't make sense, and the court agreed.

#81 JAPN

Posted 09 July 2011 - 03:12 PM

QUOTE (jfl @ 09/07/2011, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No one is disputing the sincerity of her belief - just the denial that seems to underpin it.

Her husband is clearly bisexual, and I just don't see how you could live with someone for 30 years without even an inkling of it, for starters, without a hefty amount of denial. Or, if she did know, why did he never mention this kid who was supposedly practically raping him? His whole story just doesn't make sense, and the court agreed.

I think her denial is to be expected. She may never want to face the reality because at its heart it tears at the very fabric of her marriage and possibly how she sees herself.

No doubt he went to great lengths to cover his true leanings up - it happens a lot.

#82 tans999

Posted 09 July 2011 - 03:14 PM

It really irks me when people (eg Jemstar) say there must be "more to the story" when it comes to sexual assaults.

If a mother kills her child we don't assume that the child must have induced that by their own behaviour and that we are somehow just not hearing about that.

If a man robs a convenience store, we don't assume that the shopkeeper somehow encouraged the robbery and therefore there is "more to the story".

Why cannot people accept that this IS the story.  A man sexually assaulted a boy. It was illegal. He has been convicted of it. He is an a**hole. The end.

#83 GWTW

Posted 09 July 2011 - 03:45 PM

Jemstar there is not more to the story or he wouldn't have been found guilty.

Also, about Mem Fox, in my PP I explained a situation of a girl in my family who had sexual contact with her stepfather. Despite what happened her mother stayed with this man. I have nothing to do with these family members any more as a result. I will not condone the behaviour of sexual offender in any way. I feel sad for the girl involved that she was so let down by her mother. I have NFI why women stay in these circumstances but they do.

And why do people assume Mem didn't know he was bi? Maybe she did?

BB I sometimes feel like not opening these threads because of the inevitability of some replies. But then I think, who will be around to care about victims and stand up for what is right if some of us don't say it is cut and dry. When it comes to people under the legal age of consent it really is that cut and dry.

Edited by Zombie Shakespeare, 09 July 2011 - 03:49 PM.


#84 EsmeLennox

Posted 09 July 2011 - 04:16 PM

QUOTE
Jemstar there is not more to the story or he wouldn't have been found guilty.


Yes he would, because he did break the law regardless of circumstance.  



#85 purplekitty

Posted 09 July 2011 - 04:31 PM

QUOTE (Jemstar @ 09/07/2011, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes he would, because he did break the law regardless of circumstance.

I still don't understand what more there could be to the story that would make any difference. He's guilty in any possible way you can imagine.Professionally,ethically and legally. There are no mitigating factors to be considered in this case.

As for being unaware of how 17 yr. olds behave. Please. What do you know that we don't?



#86 GWTW

Posted 09 July 2011 - 05:27 PM

Please explain what more to the story you need to know Jemstar?

#87 EsmeLennox

Posted 09 July 2011 - 05:55 PM

Oh please - I don't need to know more to the story - I simply said that it was a possibility that there was more to the story. As you say, it doesn't matter whether there is or whether there isn't - Fox broke the law.

My point is it is possible for a 17 year old to be willingly involved with an older person and only later realise the situation for what it really was - as I said the judge found it was consensual - that means the young man did not say no. Again I state that Fox should never have allowed any of this to happen whether the 17 year old persued him, he persued the 17 year old or it was a mutual thing.

As for how 17 year olds behave - there is much that I have heard over the years that has shocked me in terms of the sexual behaviour of some people in this age group.



#88 RealityBites

Posted 09 July 2011 - 06:17 PM

I will never understand why some women so publicly feel the need to stand by their man.
It doesn't matter how well you think you know someone, I think we are all capable of (morally and/or legally) wrong actions. Blind devotion comes down to fear and selfishness.

#89 BetteBoop

Posted 09 July 2011 - 06:21 PM

QUOTE (tans999 @ 09/07/2011, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It really irks me when people (eg Jemstar) say there must be "more to the story" when it comes to sexual assaults.

If a mother kills her child we don't assume that the child must have induced that by their own behaviour and that we are somehow just not hearing about that.

If a man robs a convenience store, we don't assume that the shopkeeper somehow encouraged the robbery and therefore there is "more to the story".

Why cannot people accept that this IS the story.  A man sexually assaulted a boy. It was illegal. He has been convicted of it. He is an a**hole. The end.


Yes. Sex crimes are consistently met with the sinister claims that there is "more to the story".  But I don't think there is more to this story. It's pretty straightforward. No matter what mitigating circumstances there are, it's illegal to have sex with a 17yo student.

Even if that student has been abused by 100 men before and even if agreed.

I would be intrigued to know what more to the story there could possibly be.

#90 Acidulous Osprey

Posted 09 July 2011 - 08:33 PM

QUOTE (ikeaqueen @ 09/07/2011, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This part

makes me want to go throw out all the Mem Fox books we own.

Disgusting.


Which is a very cruel and unfair punishment for her.  Her career is shot now as a children's author.

#91 Guest_starbellied_*

Posted 10 July 2011 - 12:42 AM

QUOTE (Fancy and Epic @ 09/07/2011, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Which is a very cruel and unfair punishment for her.  Her career is shot now as a children's author.


We all make decisions that could adversely impact on our careers.  She did not decide to abuse this boy, but she is making a choice on how she acts now, and what message she is sending.  As someone who has based her career on children (and has been vocal on child abuse) she needs to be aware of that and accept the impacts it has on her career.

#92 cryptic

Posted 10 July 2011 - 07:19 AM

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Edited by cryptic, 10 July 2011 - 07:27 AM.


#93 Flimsy*But*Fun

Posted 10 July 2011 - 09:59 AM

QUOTE
Those who have questioned Mem Fox's grasp on reality might ponder also this bizarre letter to the editor, dated 9 July (last letter in the list):

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opini...w-1226090993946

Very strange, under the circumstances.


I know, right?  Soooo weird.

If my husband had just been convicted of child abuse, I couldn't get off the couch for crying.  But she has the presence of mind to write a letter to the editor on a subject completely unrelated to what she must be going through.  Utterly bizarre.

Maybe she's just really good at compartmentalizing.

#94 DontKnow2015

Posted 10 July 2011 - 01:10 PM

Mem Fox - Lost me when she talked about childcare being abuse...

Her books are some of my children's favourites so I still retain them to read just switch off whenever I see anything she writes now or talks about now...

The abuse of authority is the issue here and that is what makes the age being a late teenager irrelevant.  If he committed acts against the law than he deserves to be found guilty.

We have a sad case in our family.  What some families will believe about a child being a predator is truly mind boggling.  I think in some ways it is a way of the families of the guilty party trying to come to terms with their actions...  

The girl in one situation we were exposed to as things were going through the court admitted to things similar to Zombie Shakespere's example.  What 14 year old looks at the man who is meant to be her father and thinks I will go have sex with him.  There is questions that need to be asked about what got her there?  What was she exposed to?  Did they groom her.  

Watching pornography with a child is one tactic that our family member used....

The reality is in these situations that the person who was abused/raped is very much put on trial by the legal defence teams so if someone is found guilty that once 17 year old male has been more than likely exposed to some horrible questions and having his personal life cut up and exposed throughout the trial.

I hope this person can move on with his life and that mem fox's husband is not put in a position to influence children again.   I would think his age now would limit his contact with children.

Edited by rebecca59, 10 July 2011 - 01:10 PM.


#95 city*reader

Posted 15 July 2011 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE (ikeaqueen @ 09/07/2011, 12:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This part

makes me want to go throw out all the Mem Fox books we own.

Disgusting.



I've boycotted her ever since her ridiculous statements about putting children in day care being child abuse.  So glad we don't own a single one of her books.


QUOTE
Which is a very cruel and unfair punishment for her. Her career is shot now as a children's author.


Cry me a river, Fancy and Epic.  There are more important things going on here, and noone owes her a living as an author or anything else.

Edited by city*reader, 15 July 2011 - 04:07 PM.


#96 vegiepatch

Posted 18 July 2011 - 04:11 PM

QUOTE (ikeaqueen @ 09/07/2011, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, they don't.  But now I have the association that Mem Fox is a d*ck with these books and I won't read them to my children without having this entire story played out in my head.

Her comments on childcare were bad enough but kissy faces at her husband who has just been found guilty - so freaking wrong.


Totally agree. It is disgusting.

QUOTE
Strange indeed. I stand by my assertion that she is delusional, especially as it relates to her husband. She might want to revisit her definition of "child abuse."


baddmammajamma ...Yes I agree.

Also in agreeance with everything Zombie Shakespeare said.

Edited by vegiepatch, 18 July 2011 - 04:15 PM.


#97 PurpleWitch

Posted 19 July 2011 - 06:27 PM

Maybe her husband was sent to child care as a young baby.

Being she's the expert on child abuse.


#98 Feralmummacat

Posted 24 August 2011 - 06:05 PM

I just got in our pigeon hole at DS kindergarden and advertisement to attend "An evening with Mem Fox".

They want you to pay $5 to hear "the world respected writer".

OMG I can not believe they are advertising in the kindy newsletter for this women on the same day as this article is printed.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-a...3-1226121127579

I for one would not pay a cent to hear anything she says.

Edited by mummacat, 24 August 2011 - 06:05 PM.


#99 GWTW

Posted 24 August 2011 - 11:23 PM

Seriously?!
That article hits too close to home.


#100 virtuallotus

Posted 25 August 2011 - 10:06 AM

Jail Urged For Mem Fox's Husband




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