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Posted 22 April 2011 - 12:43 PM
Lally you must feel crap. There are no words. Take care of yourself.
No update from me. FS didn't call with my results. Feeling decidedly non-pg today. Bbs not even sore. Hrmmmm
Happy Easter everyone
Posted 22 April 2011 - 06:25 PM
Hi Lally, sorry to hear about your BFN. Something that I want to point out though, is that you had a trigger and two boosters in one week (I'm assuming here that the boosters were more Pregnyl / Ovidrel). The last booster was six days before you first BT, so levels of 40 could actually just have been a hangover from the trigger and booster shots, and they didn't factor that in, which is a bit, no, a lot, rubbish. I know at my clinic they actually have a formula they use to factor in any hcg that may still be in you system.
msbonny, that sounds somewhat ridiculous. My costs, Canberra Fertility, were my Clomid, and then on my second cycle, the trigger shot. All the blood tests and U/S were bulk-billed. Doesn't even have to got PHI, although that might change if I have to move on to FSH.
Anyway, I think AF is on her way. I did notice some CM on the Sunday before my laparoscopy, so I think I may actually have ovulated then, and my boobs started getting sore middle of last week, starting to get rather sore now, and was a little nauseous earlier in the week (normal PMS symptom for me). Typical, I have a rather acceptable natural 5 week cycle when I'm having a laparoscopy, D & C, and tubes checked. Grumble grumble.
Posted 22 April 2011 - 06:54 PM
thanks for all the hugs and comforting words.
emm We were told that we should expect between 15 and 25 to be residual hcg booster. This was calculated before i had my first pg Bt. So FS is convinced that it was ok, not great but stranger things have happened.
DH and I stayed home today and kept busy tidying up the house and watching telly. We've been chatting about "next time" so I'd say we're alright to dust ourselves off and give it another shot. I just hope AF turns up sometime soon.
Take care everyone.
Posted 27 April 2011 - 08:28 PM
Hi everyone. I hope you are all having a nice break - it's very quiet around here this week. I hope there is some good news again soon.
Pixie How are you feeling now? Any new EPS? Scan's not too far away now!!!
Hopeful and think I'm ready any news?
Emm How's your natural cycle going?
I've had 3 BTs and 2 scans since last post. Apart from a very heavy and extra painful bleed, all appears healthy so we're all systems go - again. I have felt very mixed up about things over the last week but more confused than anything. Confused about how I was supposed to feel since I never really accepted it was a BFP to begin with.
CD5 here today. FS has been really apologetic and particularly sensitive to our case this week. This time, FS has changed our doses to 50iu FSH. Not sure what that's going to achieve other than some very sore ovaries. I started letrozole today and follow-up scan is CD9. The most difficult part of this experience has been the cancelling of OB bookings & scans.
I hope you have all enjoyed a relaxing and safe Easter.
Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:07 PM
Guess we all went away for the long weekend and left the computers behind!
Lally - a clean bill of health is definitely a good thing, although I can sympathise with your feelings of confusion etc. Sounds like your FS is doing the right thing by you both as well and hopefully the 50iu will accomplish more than just sore ovaries! My FS had me on 75iu at the end of this cycle and I didnt notice any pains at all.
AFM - well I'm about 11/12DPO and hit the gym hard tonight, really worked up a sweat. Freaked out a little when I go home about overworking myself (incase I am UTD - although no symptoms so far) so busted out a First Response test. Figured I would see a BFN (especially since its not with FMU) and then could stop worrying about the workout. Well, it wasnt a BFN. I couldnt believe my eyes. Not dark, but definitely there, and came up right after the control line. Ran and got DH and said I know its really early but.......holy sh*t!
We are going to take it slowly for the next few days and not get ahead of ourselves. I had my trigger on April 15 so it should have left my system over the long weekend, but I am not prepared to make a solid call on it just yet. I will POAS on Friday morning and if its darker I will book in with the OBS and make an appt to see the FS on Tuesday (long weekend here in Brisbane - yay!). DH is over the moon, and I am cautiously thrilled. Early days yet though so will work on my patience!
Thank you all for being so supportive these past few months - it has been so lovely to have someplace to 'go' about all this stuff.
I hope we hear some good news for more ladies very shortly - does anyone else have an update????
Edited by think I'm ready, 27 April 2011 - 09:08 PM.
Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:29 PM
Think I'm ready, congrats, hope it's a sticky one.
Lally, good to hear your going okay, fingers crossed that all goes well with this cycle.
Blah, still waiting for AF to arrive, trying to read my body, I was expecting she would be here by now, but not yet. Boobs getting quite sore though, :-(, going on two weeks they've been that way, so she should be here soon. Maybe having the ovaries drilled has mucked things up a bit. Being a 10D as it is, it's times like these I'm glad I don't have really big boobs. Looking forward to her arrival, so that we start TTC again.
Posted 27 April 2011 - 09:41 PM
ThinkI'mready That sounds like great news. Fingers crossed that it's sticky.
Emm79 Hope AF arrives soon. Sometimes it feels "productive" just to get AF...at least it does for me & my totally irregular cycles!
AFM - BT last week confirmed no O post-trigger. Eugh - tomorrow it will be 12mths since we started TTC (I know it's not a long time in the grand TTC scheme of things, but seems significant) and I haven't ever produced an egg at the "right time". But I must stop wallowing..onward & upward!
Baby dust all!
Posted 27 April 2011 - 10:19 PM
Oh, hopeful, that sucks big time. Do you know yet it they're going to give you something to start AF so you can start your next cycle? And / or what they're going to do next cycle?
My gorgeus pusscat is sitting on my lap at the moment, chin resting on the table. Poor baby, we got home yesterday, the poor thing had an abcess at the base of his ear, I cleaned it up, and cleaned a grass seed out of it, poor boy, no wonder it was sore. It seems to be getting better now though.
Posted 28 April 2011 - 05:13 PM
awww emm your pussy cat sounds so cute. Hope that ear is on the mend. Animals are so resilient.
Hopeful, what helps me is to think that of all the time TTC, how many months actually in the ball park of being able to conceive - i.e. releasing an egg, is a lot less for PCOSers. Therefore, once that happens you are closer to your BFP than ever. So even though it's been a long year of trying, to make me feel better I would subtract those months without Ov. Doesn't change time past but i hope i make sense?!
Think i'm ready I understand your reluctance to jump for joy just yet. Early days but keep POAS and checking if that line stays the same or gets darker (mine stayed the same for a 2 weeks after last trigger now getting darker obviously). I waited until AF was 3 days overdue before getting the beta, my friend told me to otherwise I would've been there on the day to be jabbed. It doesnt matter much i guess.
Lally I'm so pleased your body is resetting itself so quickly. Good to be on the road again to the big O. I must admit I am overly anxious every day about m/c. I haven't had spotting or bad cramping, and I'm on lots of progesterone, but it's still a nagging fear all day. DH thinks I'm a bi-atch at the moment. I have zero libido, panic about every cramp and lack of symptoms. Still gassy and tired but both can be caused by the pessaries.
Going by LMP I would be 6w1d today and no nausea yet. Not much else symptom wise either. Never got my 2nd beta results cos my stupid overworked FS (he has waaaaay too many patients and spreads himself thinly) won't call me with the results. It was last Wednesday i had the test and his receptionist said that they have delays due to Easter. I had mine BEFORE easter. Have booked an ultrasound for Monday. Petrified that there will be an empty sack.
As you girls can probably tell - I am very irritable and emotional and scared. So sorry for exploding in here it's probably the last thing you all need
Posted 28 April 2011 - 07:23 PM
It is really nice to see you all back again.
Hopefulbaby I'm really sorry you're still feeling down. TTC after so long presents such a different picture to all the excitement and wonder involved when we all first started out. Looking back so far might show all the rough patches and scary moments as well as other challenges that trial even the strongest of relationships. My wish for you (and you too Emm) is that you continue to hope and love and be positive (my advice: keep away from all prams in shopping centres ) and continue TTCing until you get your BFP too.
My new philosophy: Doesn't matter how many bad things happened today that make me want to crawl into bed and hide forever. Fact is, I will still need to get up (probably to wee or eat ) in the morning and since I'm up I may as well do something useful that increase my chances of getting a sticky bub and one day be happy. We are not defeated yet. So we soldier on .
Emm What kind of pussy cat do you have?
Congratulations think i'm ready - first AC attempt too wasn't it? Fantastic result!!!
Pixie Woohoo, scan on Monday. Totally get the anxiety here. Try not to get too worked up (easier said than done I'm sure). You could try distracting yourself (without forgetting you're pregnant). Oooh you could think about all the pretty maternity clothes you'll get to wear over winter rather than worrying about what your little baby is up to. My first pg I didn't spot until 6+3w and it continued on and off until 15w.
Posted 28 April 2011 - 09:31 PM
Pixie, I can understand you still being apprehensive, and waiting for something to go wrong. I guess after trying for so long, and having to overcome so many hurdles along the way, it's a defence mechanism not wanting to accept that you've actually got a bub on the way. Just keep remembering how good your hcg levels have been, that's a really positive sign.
Lally, I like your new philosophy. Now to try and adopt it for myself, and focus on the possibility, instead of feeling like it will never happen. Sometimes each day seems like such a long time, especially when waiting waiting waiting for AF to get here so that you can have your next shot. Baah, need AF to arrive to get the attitude shift I think, I can't move forward onto my next chance until the next cycle starts, if that makes sense. Pixie, I followed your drift on that, not to focus on how long, but how many cycles have we actually had to a have a chance, so it doesn't seem quite so bad.
Forgot to mention, got back to the gym, to a Body Balance class last night
Adso's a bitsa, well DMH, domestic medium hair. The local vets have an adopt a kitten/cat program, and I got him from there. But somewhere in that bitsa is Persian, which he's a bit of a throwback to, has a lot of fur, which is beautiful and soft, very fine texture, he's dark grey on top, but a very pretty silver underneath. Very faint tabby stripes on his cheeks, and that's what comes out in the rest of him. Has more of the tabby instinct, and he's a big boy, quite lean, but still weighs 7 kg! Very strong willed, but he can be an absolute sweetheart when he wants to be.
Pixie, I forgot to ask, how's your dog going? Recovering from surgery?
Edited by emm79, 29 April 2011 - 09:20 AM.
Posted 29 April 2011 - 01:24 PM
Hi There ladies, do you mind if i join this group
It has been a while since I have posted on EB that I don’t recognise anyone – I have only just read this thread so I apologise for not getting to know everyone’s background.
We have been TTC for around 6 years; we had a BFB in 2008 but had a mc at 8 weeks but no luck since. We have put “active’ TTC on hold for the past year as we have just built a new home and were living with the in-laws. We are in the process of getting the house completed with landscaping etc before we go back to the Drs/specialist and are looking at hopefully getting an appoint around September. In saying that I want to start taking more of a pro-active approach in getting myself right before hand I through it would be a good start. My local GP has me on metformin to help with insulin resistance and to try to get some sort of regularity into my cycle.
I also wanted to know if anyone has ready any good books for PCOS re diet, lifestyle etc.
I look forward to getting to know everyone
Posted 29 April 2011 - 03:53 PM
Hello Babymurk. It's nice to meet you. I think you'll find us a friendly little bunch I look forward to getting to know you too.
I hope everyone has another nice long weekend.
Posted 02 May 2011 - 07:54 PM
looks like another quiet long weekend in this thread!
welcome babymurk, I am sure you will find all the ladies in this thread to be very friendly and knowledgeable as I have.
Well I am now about 17 dpo, no sign of AF and multple BFPs on various hpt brands so I guess this actually could be it! Called the FS on Friday, he congratulated me and said he doesnt need to see me until I'm about 6 weeks! He doesnt do bloods unless he thinks he needs to and is happy with the positive hpts.
I've booked in with an OBS group in Brisbane just in case they fill up quickly before I make to 6 weeks for my appt with FS.
DH is still unbelievably excited, he wanted to drive to his parents place to tell them straight away (at 14dpo) but I managed to convince him to wait a week, at least so we can be sure its not a chemical pregnancy etc.
So this is my goodbye, I really appreciate all your advice and assistance this year, I still cant believe I was lucky enough to get a BFP on my first assisted cycle. EDD is 6 Jan 2012
Pixie, Lally, Emm & Hopeful - I wish you all the very very best for your next cycle, you have been a great support to me, and your knowledge has been invaluable.
Posted 03 May 2011 - 07:29 AM
ThinkI'mReady - congratulations, that is wonderful news. All the very best for the rest of your pregnancy!
Babymurk - welcome! Sounds like getting your house, garden etc in order is really sensible; you definitely don't want to be worrying about that kind of thing when you're TTC. Sorry, I don't have any books to recommend. But whenever I have a question, I write it down and bring a list to my FS appointments. Out of interest, did Metformin help with the regularity of your cycles?
Posted 03 May 2011 - 09:27 AM
Wow congrats think i'm ready ! That is so cute that your DH is so excited. I wish you a happy and healthy 9 months. Be prepared to feel like crap in a few weeks - I am now starting to feel seasick in bed at night - like a bad hangover without the fun part of going out drinking lol. We haven't told anyone except our respective best friends.
It's probably time for me to say farewell from a TTC point of view now. Since i got my and indeed on this journey you have all helped me out with my misery-guts attitude. I saw my blueberry's heartbeat on the 6w6d scan yesterday. Not out of the woods yet of course but I was so happy not to have an empty sac.
If it's alright I will keep the notifications on for this forum so I can see how everyone is doing and provide any advice where I can. I'm not great with the technical stuff but certainly know how it feels to be TTC with PCO/S. If I have learned anything from being in this forum is that this condition can be overcome - modern medicine can make most of us ovulate. From there it's a lottery. Seen a few BFPs amongst us now that I pray that you all keep hope.
Luv ya! cheerio
Posted 03 May 2011 - 02:46 PM
Pixiej & think i'm ready Thanks for sharing your positive news with us. May see you about EB world sometime down the track.
Emm79 & Hopefulbaby Are things moving again yet for you girls or are we still waiting for AF? I do hope new cycles start for you both soon.
AFM CD11 today. This time involves 50iu FSH CD5-9 only in the shower this morning I noticed a whopping big purple patch to the right of my belly button. I must have hit a blood vessel with the puregon pen yesterday. Apparently there was not much going on at CD5 scan so next is CD13 to see where to go from there. There have been more distinct sharp aching pains in both ovary regions yesterday and today.
I have received letters from both my FS and OB expressing their condolences for our recent loss. Both offered some comforting and encouraging messages. This was really nice, sad that the initial news is usually given via telephone call but I'm glad they take the time to actually write such notes for patients too.
think i'm ready, If you're still around and you don't mind me asking, which OB/hospital did you chose? I'm in Brisbane too.
Posted 03 May 2011 - 07:11 PM
Hi again ladies
Just wanted to say Pixie that is fantastic you got to see your little one's heartbeat, I am already counting the days til I have my first scan (will be about 6 wks, 6 days) and I hope I get a nice strong heartbeat too! Not looking forward to real morning sickness, have been vaguely nauseus for the past few days already and its not exactly fun!
Lally, I booked in with Arrivals Obstetricians so delivery will be at the mater mothers private. I wasnt sure how to go about it all, and I'm not ready to ask friends for recommendations (how suss - "I'm not UTD guys but who is a great OBS?"), so I decided I would do as much research as I could in 24hours, decided that the Mater Mothers Private was definitely where I wanted to deliver and then researched all the OBS who deliver there. I like the idea of Arrivals being a group practice, as at least you get the chance to meet all the OBS at some point in your pregnancy in case you end up having one of the others on the big day!
Best of luck ladies - I'll be checking in to catch all your BFP's soon!!!!
Posted 05 May 2011 - 08:56 PM
Hope you are all well.
Since I don't know what you're all up to at the moment, this one's a me post ok?
CD13 today and had a BT and scan this morning. FS announced that he was taking a picture of my lining because it was so beautiful. He wanted to show another patient who has been having serious lining issues. So he gave us a print out of "the pretty garden we made to plant the baby in" .
FS then proceded to do my BT and found a few collapsed veins before striking it lucky. Whilst the FS nurse was busy patching up all the leaks in my arm, FS stuck a bandaid on my forehead and said that's to warn the ladies in the waiting room that he's got shocking aim today .
I had a trigger shot tonight. We're IUIing Saturday morning plus some BDing thrown in for good measure.
Sending baby dust to Hopefulbaby, Emm79 and Babymurk.
Posted 05 May 2011 - 09:29 PM
Pixie, yay for good strong heartbeat . That's great to hear. Of course we want you to keep .
Babymurk, hi and welcome. Only thing that I've come across for managing PCOS through lifestyle etc is basically healthy lifestyle, and low GI diet if you're insulin resistant (which not all of us on here are).
Think I'm Ready, let us know how your first scan goes.
Lally, sounds promising. that you catch this eggie this time around.
Still waiting, waiting. Either the PCOS has mucked around my system, or the ovarian drilling did something to "reset" my system. Bb's have been somewhat sore for nearly 3 weeks now! But started to get really sore the last few days. Also had (TMI warning) heaps of EWCM starting the weekend, and first couple of days of this week, so we went for it, hey it's enough time since the op for the lining to recover, although no idea which side I'm o'ing; and bb's gotten sorer since. Even the pressure from the water in the shower hurts, let alone simply reaching for something. Think my elbow is starting to scar. I can still see the mark from the canula 3 weeks ago, which is also my good vein for taking blood. It's pretty much my only good vein. One of the few things for which I'm grateful for my fair skin, it makes my veins easy to see.
Hopeful, hope all is going well with you.
Awwww, Adso's come looking for cuddles and had to jump up on my lap while I was typing.
Posted 05 May 2011 - 09:40 PM
Lally Sounds very promising! Good luck with the IUI, I hope it's a big huge lovely success.
Out of interest - is your trigger Pregnyl 5000IU or 10,000IU? I had 5000IU last time, but I think my FS will bump me up since the trigger didn't work last time. Also...do you do Pregnyl booster shots for luteal phase support? I did last time, but my FS might switch me onto pessaries this time - eek, never done those before!
ps. your FS sounds hilarious
Emm79 If you've got heaps of EWCM, might as well go for it I think!! Fingers crossed.
Is Adso all better now?
AFM - finished provera and AF arrived exactly when expected (oh, how I wish it did this naturally!!). Starting Take 3 of FSH injections tomorrow (33.3IU) with scan on CD9. This is our last FSH+timed BD cycle, moving to IUI next. I am that the trigger works this time.
BABY DUST TO ALL!!!!
Posted 05 May 2011 - 10:16 PM
Emm! Those symptoms sound awesome. Hope you had fun . I'm feeling a bit polka-dotty after FS's BT attempts today. Fair skin likes nasty bruises too. The regular blood collection centre nurses tap the same spot in my right arm without fail but FS is a bit of a pioneer and likes exploring new BT territory. that things get a wriggle on for you really soon.
Hopeful. My trigger was 5000iu and I have 3 boosters on 3, 6 & 10 dpiui at 1500iu Pregnyl. Last cycle I took Progynova and also Progesterone pessaries during luteal phase but I don't know what FS wants me to do this time yet. Turned out that last IUI fee was only $660 before medicare rebate so I was happy about that. FS is an absolute crack-up. It really breaks the ice when everyone's a bit shy . We'd been seeing him for 4 months and we discovered that FS had actually delivered DH 29 years ago . Good to hear you've got a next time plan. I hope you don't need to use it though .
Posted 06 May 2011 - 02:09 PM
I havent been around as I was on leave last week after easter.
Think Im Ready & Pixie congratulations so so much on your scan. Seeing that little heartbeat on the screen is the most amazing feeling in the world. Best of luck for the next 8 months.
Lally & Emm I am always a mess after blood tests. The poor collection lady at pathology made a mess of me during my testing month. The day of testing for the Insulin resistance was the worst. The woman doing the first lot of blood two weeks before that had made such a mess and then she had so much trouble getting blood out of me. In the end my arms were black and she showed me exactly where my best vein is and I am to tell the collection people exactly where it is.
Well the provera worked and I had my first actual AF since October last year and it arrived on Easter Sunday. It took 6 days from when I had finished the provera to come and I was starting to think it wouldnt. I started my clomid on CD5 and took my last tablet on CD9 which was Monday. Monday was also the first day of getting high results on my Clear Blue Fertility Monitor so that was good. It means the estrogen part of my cycle has come to the party. I started to feel today like I am not going to O but for about the last two hours I have been getting ovary pains and in all my lurking on FF I discovered that most people who do a CD5-9 course of Clomid seem to O around CD 17 - 19. So I guess I have to wait till at least Tuesday. We have been doing every second day since Sunday so that was CD8.
I was very excited to see my monitor move from low though. I know it works from October when we were using it and we got our positive so I am just putting all my faith in the fact that this clomid is going to work and we will catch it again.
My next step is to have a CD23 blood test on Monday week and then wait for him to contact me to whether I have O'd (which i will already know) and then when to have the blood pregnancy test.
Hope everyone is well.
Posted 06 May 2011 - 04:41 PM
Welcome back leebec, hope you had a nice break away. Good to hear you're oestrogen levels seem to be going up. I had a trigger shot CD13, and O'd CD15 on clomid days 5-9.
Hopeful, good to hear you're on to your next cycle. Keeping everything crossed that this one works for you. Except the legs of course .
Hi Lally, not so awesome, pretty standard for a natural cycle. Produce a heap of EWCM, although that has lasted as long as two weeks before, then when that stops, the boobs start getting sorer, start getting nauseous, boobs get really sore (and grow nearly another cup size while they're at it, and no, that's not good) and stops a couple of days after AF arrives. And that's all standard PMS. On the upside, I haven't started getting any nausea yet, hopefully having the endo removed will keep that away, although the boobs were sore for a couple of weeks beforehand. The endo can cause an increase in prostoglandins, which causes the nausea. Also an upside with the clomid, didn't get anywhere near as bad PMS.
One EPS is supposed to be sore boobs, similar to being pre-menstrual, but more so. Man, I hope not in my case, if I get UTD; I won't be able to move!
Have a good weekend .
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