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Posted 03 April 2012 - 02:39 PM
OMG....We are pregnant!!!!
The nurse rang me and said "congratulations"!!! and I broke down into tears!!!
it has been a very long journey...
She said that the result are very good and my beta was in the higher end...multiples???(she didn't tell me how much)
I don't think I had major symptoms:
The only hint was on 12DPO my AF were due to arrive and instead I had stabbing pains and very bad cramps. and then on no sign of AF until today. So really no symptoms watsoever.
Thanks everyone for your support , it help me going trhough each cycles with a positive mind
I send you all good vibes and you'll get your BFP very soon!!!!
Posted 03 April 2012 - 02:52 PM
smallbumb congratulations that is fantastic news
Dingo Ė Welcome when do you increase your clomid?
AFM Ė I am off to the Drs this afternoon at 4pm. Am a little nervous as we get DHs results back today as well plus I donít know if I have O or not, no symptoms like I usually get such as sore (.Y.) Depending on the result will depend on our next course of action. I think we will get a referral to a FS to discuss options, so after following you smallbumb am keen to possibly try the IUI but in the same breath also a little scared about the $$ if we need to go IVF
Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:10 PM
Thank you babymurk. I know what you mean about IVF. I didn't have the finance to pay for IVF. I'm not cover for it. So for us IUI was the only way. It costed us $1890 for the injections, blood & scans and sperm wash. Medicare reimburse about $800.
it was not too bad. Put it on the credit card
Every step you will take will bring you closer to the BFP!
keep us updated your your DH's result and your ovulation!
Posted 03 April 2012 - 04:33 PM
That's so awesome smallbump so please for you! Hopefully your good luck will rub off on some of us! I went back to the Dr's yesterday and they have agreed to do bloods this month (hard to know when to get them done as my cycle is all over the place, I know normally its day 21 but the longest my cycle has been since starting on the clomid is 21 days, the Dr just said take 7 days off the length of your cycle and get them done on that day?) to check whether I am even ovulating and then if I'm not they will re-refer to a FS which I feel a lot happier with! Just a quick question though today is CD10 for me and I have noticed a pinkish EW discharge? Never had this before could this be a sign ovulation is near? I haven't picked up anything on the OPK but then the Dr I saw yesterday (was a different one to the usual one) said that they don't always work with PCOS and clomid and to sop wasting money on them and just go by CM? Or that I could have daily LH BT's next month until I can get into the FS?
Posted 03 April 2012 - 05:01 PM
thank you 1892blair!!! it's been a shock!
CD7 or CD8 is good because they will be able to know how far you are from ovulating
My FS always wanted me to do a CD10 as well to have more accuracy on the ovulation date.
The EW means that your about 12 to 36hours to have a surge (that was what my FS was telling me and I've experience it)
Sometimes the OPK only tell you half the story so is good to have some visuals you can rely onto.
Good luck with your ovulation
Posted 03 April 2012 - 09:48 PM
Smallbump - that's so awesome! I'm so glad it is all confirmed. Also, wow, I didn't realise IUI cost that much per cycle - it's a bit pricey!
Babymurk - I hope you get good results this afternoon - keep us updated. You ladies are worrying me about IVF though - that's still a while away for me but still...are we talking $5k a cycle or something?
I am taking my last increased does of clomid tomorrow (for this cycle anyway) and I'm looking forward to it. Does it make anyone else feel really queasy? I'm booked in for a US on Wednesday the 11th so hopefully it'll be successful.
Posted 04 April 2012 - 08:28 AM
You ladies are worrying me about IVF though - that's still a while away for me but still...are we talking $5k a cycle or something?Sorry donít mean to worry you, it is just something that in my situation we may need to look into. I was sent some information from one FS clinic and it was around $6.5K with no upfront payment but then I was on the net that was around $4.5 - $5 but was upfront. Both did say that you get about $2k - $2.5k back
No I donít get getting side effects with clomid luckily Ė I take them of a night time, not sure if that helps or not.
AFM Ė Results from DH yesterday were fine, but mine of the other hand werenít last month proges levels were 47 but this time there were 4. Estro levels on the other hand were higher this time, so the Dr said that it looks like I have growing the egg just not releasing and that we could look at possibly triggering them in coming months if needed. I told him about temps and being about 8DPO but he said that he doesnít believe in that as it is so easy to misinterpret. I was told to wait a couple of days so a test and if negative then to start Provira(???) to bring on AF. Next cycle I am to go up to 100mg of Clomid from CD5-9. Do you ladies think that it is strange that I donít get any scans in my cycles?
Posted 04 April 2012 - 10:05 AM
Thanks Sassy Dingo: I'll pray for you
Babymurk: when i was with my Dr she has never scaned my folicules but with my FS is like a rituals. She really wanted to know their sizes and how many I produce each cycles.
I think it does two things: it help you having more control on multiples babies, so let's say if you overstimulate on clomid you have the risk of releasing more eggs and might end up with Quad or more!!
And the other thing is the scans normally occure on D7/8 and/or D10/12. the FS can judge by looking at the size of your follies on D7 if they are growing the way they should. And if not she can changed your dosage on the spot to ensure that on D10/12 you follies are mature for ovulation.
I think you should have your follies scaned.
About your progesterone I think you are like me. One month I'm good the other month I'm not. So maybe discuss with your FS the possibility to put you on progesterone supplement. They've got several brandes but i've used Pregnyl injections.
Fantastic your DH is fine you might be a good candidate for IUI???
I hope this will be your month
Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:30 PM
Is this thread still active? I have just been diagnosed with polycystic ovaries and the doctor mentioned the possibility of putting me on Clomid - I have a follow up appointment tomorrow morning but was just wondering whats in store for me? Would love to hear from you ladies as at the moment it feels very overwhelming and scary!!
Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:12 PM
Hi Finger's Crossed, I think everyone has just had a break because of Easter - I only got back yesterday.
I've also got PCOS and I'm on clomid (75g day 2 to 6) and metformin. If your Dr gives you clomid he may give you metformin as well - metformin treats insulin resistance, which is thought to be the cause of PCOS. There are 2 options with the metformin - an extended release one where you take one a day and a 3 times a day one. The extended release one is supposed to have less side effects but I didn't have any with the 3 times a day one.
You'll prob be started on 50g a day dose for clomid - it's the lowest and you'll prob have a blood test or ultrasound around when you should be ovulating to see if it works. If it doesn't work, you'll have your dose increased for the next month. Monitoring is important as sometimes clomid can work too well and you may suffer ovarian hyper stimulation syndrome, or you may get a large number of mature follicles and be at risk of multiple birth. I found the clomid made me feel pretty queasy - I've heard that taking it at night before you go to bed is the best time so that any side effects you get, you get while you're sleeping.
Hope that helps!
Smallbump: I hope you're intending to keep lurking around this forum - hopefully your good luck will rub off on us all! Hope everything is going well for you.
AFM: I came back early from holidays to have my day 13 scan. Yay, I have 2 good looking follicles at 11mm and 12mm! My Dr says ovulation will prob be on the weekend sometime. While I was there the DR also requested a semen analysis from my DH - as he put it, why put all this effort into getting you to ovulate when there may be additional problems. Poor DH was mortified - we have this 'understanding' where we both pretend that neither of us masturbate so when I read the fact sheet to him about the proper method of collection he turned bright red! Poor Diddums
Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:06 PM
Hi Fringers Cross : I agree with Sassy Dingo, I think your Dr might give you 50g to start with. let us know how you go!
Sassy Dingo: I think I'll stick around a bit longer . It's so early than anything can happen. I'm officially 6 weeks preggo and next week I will find out how many I have.
Your folicules look good - fingers cross for your ovulation
Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:25 PM
Thank you so much for the welcome - I think I'm going to need your advice and support in the coming months...
So since I posted I have been to see my doctor to discuss my ultrasound and she has referred me to a fertility specialist in the city - first appointment I can get is in just over two weeks time which isnt long from what I hear but seems forever!!!
I am also booked in to have a glucose blood test so they can work out if I am insulin resistant and then I will take all my results to the FS to discuss.
Im hoping she will put me straight onto something rather tha monitoring a cycle first with blood tests? What was your experiences? Do you know if you have to have additional blood tests (the Day 3 and Day 21 tests) before you start on a medicated cycle?
Will try and now read back over all the previous posts and do some personals but for now I see congratulations is in order for Smallbump and good luck wishes for Sassy Dingo!!
Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:09 PM
Sorry me again - one more quick question
I live in Sydney - do any of you have recommendations for a FS in Sydney that can help with OI and clomid etc - the FS I was referred to in on leave so I have picked another at the same clinic but would be good to go from recommendation if poss?
Posted 13 April 2012 - 06:54 PM
Finger's Crossed: I went straight onto a medicated cycle, but I suppose anything is possible. I also don't have the blood tests, just the ultrasounds.
Sorry, I'm a Brisbane girl, don't have any idea of Sydney specialists.
Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:09 AM
Fingers Cross: I think all the FS can help with OI & Clomid is just that you need to find one that you are confortable with. I can give you the Fs I'm seeing but it's south of Sydney - Miranda. Let me know if you want her info.
MyDH & I have blood testsHycosy. sperms, AMH & progesterone, glucose etc... tests before I could starts on clomid. This will help the specialist to understand your metabolism and adapt the medication accordingly.
it's depend on your Dr/FS, some will use your first medicated cylce as guinea pig and other will do all the blood test before starting you on something. i think the most important thing it's that you're confortable with the directions your DS/FS is taking. There is no right or wrong
Hope this will help - i hopes this your month ladies
Posted 17 April 2012 - 10:33 AM
Thanks for all your replies - so I got a call this morning from one of the doctors who has a cancellation appointment available for tomorrow afternoon!! Eek!!! Its Dr Devora Lieberman who is ex Sydney IVF and has opened her own clinic in Sydney - anyone have any experiences with her?
So I'm excited but nervous too as to what she might say/recommend? I am on CD20 of my current cycle with no ovulation in sight so am wondering what steps she will take
I am taking my blood test results and ultrasound scans with me and I have my glucoe OGTT blood test tomorrow morning so those results should be with her this week too - suppose she might order more tests for us but thats ok as we have time anyway between now and end of my cycle to get these so that hopefully next cycle we can start with the necessary meds/monitoring etc..
Sassy Dingo - whats your update re ovulation? did it happen at the weekend do you know?
Smallbump - hope things are progressing well for you and thanks so much for still taking the time to come in here and help out the newbie!!
Posted 17 April 2012 - 04:26 PM
Hope you are all going well, anyone have any exciting news to share?? Hope all is still going well with you Smallbump? When is your scan? Good look at your FS appointment Fingers Crossed!! Did you ovulate Sassy Dingo? I don't really have much to report I am currently on CD24 and just waiting and waiting. I am pretty certain I ovulated late on CD18 (had a positive OPK on CD17 and have had temperature spikes from CD19) I had bloods done on CD17 (that's when the Dr recommended as my cycles had only been about 21 days!) they showed I hadn't ovulated but I was expecting that as I am sure I ovulated the next day also had bloods done yesterday (CD23) We did plenty of BD'ing over the hopefully fertile period so keeping everything crossed but not getting my hopes up! Baby dust to all!
Posted 18 April 2012 - 09:43 PM
How did you go at your appointment Finger's Crossed?
1982blair - it certainly sounds as if you ovulated sometime! Hopefully this is your month!
AFM: I'm a bit unsure whether I ovulated or not. I had the scan last Wednesday and the Dr saw 2 nice follicles and he estimated ovulation in 4-5 days. However, I was doing OPKs and I didn't get a positive. So I'm not sure. I didn't realise that you ladies were having blood tests to confirm ovulation - I just have the ultrasounds. To be certain we covered the (possible) fertile period we had sex every second day from day 13 to day 20, so hopefully there was ovulation and everything else did what it's supposed to.
Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:23 AM
1982Blair - sounding good for you that you ovulated and fingers crossed this is your month - when do you get your blood test results?
Sassy Dingo - sounds like you covered all bases - when is your next ultrasound/appointment? Do you have anything to be able to confirm ovulation for you?
AFM - so I had my fs appointment yesterday and it went pretty well - she seemed to think I didnt have an extreme case as I have none of the physical symptoms and just have the irregular cycles and the cysts. She has suggested I start on 50mg of Clomid starting on day of my next cycle and for my first cycle to be monitored which will involved blood tests and scans at the appropriate time to check for ovulation, developing follicles etc etc
She has said it is up to us how many cycles of clomid we wish to do but she recommends no more than 6. After that she recommends we go straight to IVF rather than the gonal injections as the success rate dramatically increases and there isnt too much of a cost difference? Thats one for DH and I to discuss but happy in the meantime to try clomid
so now I have to wait for AF to arrive - am on CD21 and my last cycle was 42 days so could be another three weeks yet before I can get started which is frustrating but Ive waited so long util now, whats another three weeks!?
So I still have a lot of questions - have you girls had laproscopy/hycyosy (is that how you spell it!!)?. Ive heard people have these before starting clomid to rule out blocked tubes but this wasnt suggested yesterday? Do you guys use any sort of pre-seed lubrication to assist as I have heard clomid can cause issues with CM?
so will def be a permanent fixture in here for a while!!
And was out last night with some girls and had that another friend has fallen pregnant immediately on her first try!! Irs so unfair isnt it!!
Posted 19 April 2012 - 11:12 AM
fingers crossed!! I haven't had a laparoscopy/hysteroscopy this time but I did when I was trying to conceive DD! I haven't had any problems with CM whilst on clomid but I have read people use preseed and a spoonful of robitussin to increase the amount and the quality. Hope you don't have to wait too long for AF to arrive so you can get on and start the clomid, what days will you be taking it? Did the FS suggest provera to induce menstruation if you have to wait to long?
Sassy Dingo I wouldn't worry too much about the OPK they can be very sensitive and you may only get a positive for a few hours on one day! My Dr advised me to stop using them and just to worry about the BTs. If the USS showed 2 nice follicles? Will keep everything crossed for you, sounds like you covered all bases with your BD'ing!! Can you not ask for BT's to confirm ovulation? How many DPO's do you think you are? They normally do them 7 DPO
AFMWell I did definitely ovulate repeat progesterone was 34.9 on 6DPO so that's something, I'm now 8DPO just want the next few days/week to pass quickly without AF showing her ugly face and then I might be brave enough to do a HPT!
Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:21 PM
Fingers Cross: I had an Hycosy done before I started Clomid. My Fs wanted to make sure that my tubes were not blocked. because if they are Clomid won't work.
My CM was a bit dry when using clomid but I've never used preseed becasue I've heard that it is hostile to sperms. But A lot of women are using it so maybe it's not that bad after all
Clomid can thiner your linen so discuss with your FS how long you want to be on it.
Don't worry you are taking the right steps, your BFP will come soon
1982blair: Nice progesterone level! I hope this is your month
AFM: First hearbeat this afternoon what a precious moment. All is good. I'll go back for another scan in 2 weeks time.
Posted 19 April 2012 - 10:09 PM
1982blair - I think next time I see the Dr I'll ask if I can have a blood test after estimated ovulation just to make sure. I didn't realise that OPKs were so inaccurate! That makes me feel better.
Finger's Crossed: I just had my ultrasounds before starting clomid, nothing else. I don't use any lubricant.
smallbump: How lovely that you heard the heartbeat - I think I would have starting crying in the office if I was you.
AFM, I guess I'm just in the same position as 1982blair, just waiting to see how this month went.
Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:40 AM
Morning ladies! Thank god its Friday!!
1982Blair - I will be taking 50mg fro day 2-6 - does that sound about right? She didnt mention provera to induce menstruation but I am due to ovulate in the next few days to a week so I think she kind of though this cycle wasnt a duff deal yet so to give me this chance - however if I fail to ovulate in the next week or two I think I will call her to kick start things
Smallbump - I had heard that about CM so maybe I'll look into pre-seed, will see how I go? And I think its a good idea re checking tubes etc.. so I might mention it at the next appointment. And wow a heartbeat - that must be an amazing moment - cant wait until its my turn!!
SassyDingo - keeping my fingers crossed for you! what cycle of clomid is this for you?
AFM - I had my first amount of EWCM yesterday and quite a bit of it (sorry TMI I know!) so DH and I BDed last night and think we will quite a bit over the weekend as you never know I might not need that clomid prescription at all!!! Last time I ovulated 3 days after first getting EWCM so fingers crossed O and the 2ww is just around the corner!!
Posted 20 April 2012 - 10:47 PM
Fingers crossed!! They pretty much always start people on 50mg and the day just depends on what FS you see they all seem to like different days, the earlier in the cycle you take it the more follicles you are supposed to get but later in the cycle gives you better quality apparently? I'm not sure how much truth there is in it all, you just have to go with what your FS says! Fingers crossed though you don't need it at all and this will just be your month!!
Smallbump so glad your scan went well! I take it they only spotted one in there??!! It is such a magical thing seeing that heartbeat for the first time!
SassyDingo how many DPO are you?? Anything giving you a glimmer of hope yet??
AFM I'm pretty sure AF is going to show her ugly head soon I am now 9DPO and have been getting cramping on and off all day and my DH says I'm very grumpy! Just found out my SIL is expecting baby number 2 as well and she didn't even want another baby
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