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#1 mama-mia

Posted 06 March 2011 - 11:22 AM

Hi all,
13 month old DD is moving to one sleep a day, and has been for about 3 weeks now. She used to have 2 x 45 min naps previously (despite all my efforts to get her to sleep a bit longer).

The problem now is that she only has one sleep a day and often it's only still 45 mins! I SO need more of a break from her in the day! I had a few weeks of her sleeping for just over an hour  grin.gif but the last few days she's gone back to the shorter sleep. Everyone has said "She'll sleep longer once she only has one sleep and is really tired". She is tired - often falling asleep when I give her the milk. At the moment I'm stretching her to about 11.15 or 11.30am. It makes for a very long afternoon when she's up again by 12.30pm!

She is close to walking, is quite active and generally happy when awake (although last two days she has been whingey beyond description - a whole other "tear my hair out" story).

She actually now sleeps really well at night, often from about 6.30 or 7pm until about 6.30am.

So is it a case of "suck it up" and just accept this is her, or any advice to get that longer sleep in the middle of the day?????

#2 mitch82

Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:07 PM

my ds sometimes fights a second sleep he is also 13months between them discovering the world of walking and teething is quite hard to keep a pattern happening..... i try and keep him to his breaking point and he just falls off to sleep with a cuddle the sleep lasts anywhere from 45 mintues till 2 hours depending on what he has been up to

#3 *~*ME*~*

Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:14 PM

oh its hard isnt it??

My DS1, was the same, he went down to one sleep and hardly slept... but he also didnt sleep well at night, and still doesnt at 3.

My ds2 is the opposite, and sleeps great at night 6.30pm-6.30am and atm has 2 day sleeps of 1.5 hrs each...

I really think it depends on the child, i woul say you might just have to suck it up (sorry i mean that in the nicest way possible.)

#4 ImperatorFuriosa

Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:16 PM

I don't think there is really much you can do to make a child sleep longer during the day. My DS2 sleeps up to 3hrs every day! Can you afford to put her in daycare once a week so you can get a break and just chill out on your own? I use DS2 sleep time to sit on the net and relax with a coffee etc and I put him in daycare 1 days a week too.

#5 Riotproof

Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:17 PM

Have you tried going in at say 40 minutes and stirring her slightly, by moving the covers or something. People have said that this seems to "reset" their cycle and they sleep through til the next one. You haven't got anything to lose anyway.

#6 KimDeal

Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:23 PM

I can sympathise.

DD is just turned one and has been dropping her second sleep over the last few weeks. We're now "enjoying" one 45 minute sleep a day (I get lucky maybe once a week with an 1 1/2 hour sleep, bliss!).

I have started making big afternoon plans, as soon as she's awake (usually around noon) she has lunch and then we're out until around 3 or 4. It helps to be busy!

I'm still hoping that DD will settle in to one sleep and start stretching it out.......

#7 talia08

Posted 07 March 2011 - 07:31 AM

Hi I can sympathise with you.You do mention you give her milk and she is falling asleep, do you give her milk around 11 or so before she sleeps, perhaps milk is her sleep cue? Just wondering if you didnt give her milk and you could give her an early lunch , I sometimes give ds his lunch from 1130 or start the process from then, he then perks up a little , I give him then time to have a roll around after early lunch, then read stories and then he seems to have a longer sleep (occassionally)It seems the longer and later I can string him out now for one sleep, he really does seem to have a longer sleep, where earlier on that wouldnt have bene the case.

#8 mama-mia

Posted 07 March 2011 - 08:06 PM

Thanks everyone! I'm actually going back to work in 4 months so I know I'll get a break from it all then!

Thanks KimDeal - since reading your post I have decided to give her lunch then just get out and do stuff. Today we went to the garden centre and I planted some herbs when we got back. Something I've been meaning to do for a long time!

Talia08 - I have played around with the schedule and I stopped giving DD lunch before that sleep at about 11am because she was literally falling asleep in the high chair when still feeding herself. Poor little thing! So I tend to give morning tea about 10.30 which is usually a banana and some crackers. I don't think the milk is a cue to sleep because prior to this phase, she was going down for her two sleeps without milk. Once she can stay up a bit longer I'll squeeze in lunch before the sleep.

#9 stayz

Posted 08 March 2011 - 10:19 AM

My DS2 is only 5 days older than your DD and has dropped down to one nap in the past 3-4 weeks. At first he was only sleeping an hour so he'd been up for around 7 hours before he went down again at night. Add an active 3.9 year old to the mix and some afternoons seem to last forever!

Now DS2 is starting to sleep longer and some days he will sleep for two hours. I also give him a snack around 10.30am to last him through to lunch which is now after 1pm. I'll bring lunch forward to around 11.30am-noon once he's able to stay up longer, though I'm dreading that day as it will clash with DS1's kinder drop off!

#10 greenmother

Posted 08 March 2011 - 12:02 PM

I am in the same predicament, only my DD (15 months) is GRUMPY and angry and whiny without enough sleep - and even with it sometimes lol. I am gradually trying to shift her to 1 sleep, but it seems like that sleep won't be as long as most bubs 1 sleep is. 30-45 mins is all I get sometimes. I don't understand when people say they switched to one sleep and bubs sleeps for 2 hours or more now????

#11 stelliam

Posted 21 March 2011 - 11:51 AM

Hi mamma-mia

I feel your pain too. My DD is 2 days younger than yours and is sleeping really well at night but is & has always been a random day sleeper.  

I think she is moving towards 1 day sleep as she has started having shorter naps morning and afternoon.  She did get up to 1.5-2 hours for at least one of her naps for a while there which was FANTASTIC but of course it didn't last! She has had 1 day sleep on the odd day depending what we have had on but even then it is rarely more than 1 1/4 hours.

Of course on Saturday when Dad was home she had a 3 HOUR NAP!!!!!!  I'm sure that is never to be repeated but gee it was nice.

I vaguely remember my other DD started sleeping longer more consistently after she could walk and have heard a few others say this too so am hoping for that - but not holding my breath!

My only other thought would be to keep slowly stretching her out to 12/12.30 and see if that makes a difference.

Sorry - can't help much but it is always nice to know you are not alone!

#12 cbmummy

Posted 21 March 2011 - 11:58 AM

Yep, I can sympathise. I found by putting DS into daycare one day a week, it was good for everyone. You get a break, he gets a break and then the batteries are recharged to deal with the rest of the week. Good luck, IT DOES CHANGE.....

#13 theb3an

Posted 21 March 2011 - 11:08 PM

ugh, 13mos is a terrible time for sleep.  many many babies go through a sleep regression at this age and lasts for 4-6wks.  the biggest sign of this regression is the inability to sleep for both naps so this makes parents think that their child is moving to 1 nap.  if you decide to move your baby to 1 nap, then put her to bed 1hr earlier than when she was originally going to sleep when she was sleeping 2x/day.  over time, she'll get used to the wake time and she will sleep longer but when you move a baby to 1 nap, they're in a state of overtiredness until they get used to the longer wake time.  please note that 13mos is a bit young to move to 1 nap as many babies naturally move to 1 nap around 16-18mos so your baby might give you short naps for a while.  the early bedtime will def help combat the overtiredness.  all you can do now is wait it out.  

good luck!

#14 atua

Posted 21 March 2011 - 11:14 PM

i'm no help - by 14mths daysleeps have been goneski and it's a long ass day from 6am until the last one drops (and that can be around 10pm laughing2.gif)

i did what a PP mentioned - fed and kept going on with my day as usual - it's actually quite liberating when they don't sleep because you don't have to factor that into the day anywhere and you can just do whatever original.gif

#15 Mummy-2-1boy

Posted 24 March 2011 - 04:20 PM

My little one is (now) a great day sleeper. He started being great when i moved to one day nap. But i keep him up til 12:30, which took a long time for him to get used to, and he still has his cranky, tired mornings. He sleeps for 3 hrs, longer some days if i dont wake him.

If you really need more of a break you could slowly "teach" your bub to have some quiet time. If the afternoons are really long for you, you could pop bub into the cot with some books & toys for maybe 10mins to start with and work your way up. We do this first thing in the morning for our boy. He wakes (around 6:30) and we give him a drink of water, a dummy and books and he will contentedly play for as long as we leave him, usually 30mins so we can get up & showered etc. Works a treat. I also used to do this in the afternoons if he had had bad morning sleeps when he was younger, he was so used to it it actually helped him as he seemed "rested" afterward... just a thought that might help you.

#16 cinnabubble

Posted 25 March 2011 - 07:33 AM

please note that 13mos is a bit young to move to 1 nap as many babies naturally move to 1 nap around 16-18mos

Neither of my children got that memo. The younger one moved to a single day sleep at nine months and can cheerfully be awake for eight hour stretches.

OP, all babies are different. I would follow your child's cues.

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