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#26 Lucy30

Posted 10 September 2011 - 04:07 PM

From what I've read online, I've found that sprouts (alfalfa, mung bean etc) have a risk of salmanella.

I don't like cows milk either and have had the odd cup of tea with soy since being pregnant. However I used to have a LOT of soy in my diet and think it affected my cycle (it became longer and slightly irregular).  Since cutting it out periods returned to normal and we didn't have much trouble falling pregnant.  I personally find that rice and oat milk are very watery and tasteless but almond milk is the best replacement of soy I can find.  Its very good for you and has lots of calcium!  Hope this helps!

#27 Lucy30

Posted 10 September 2011 - 04:07 PM

From what I've read online, I've found that sprouts (alfalfa, mung bean etc) have a risk of salmanella.

I don't like cows milk either and have had the odd cup of tea with soy since being pregnant. However I used to have a LOT of soy in my diet and think it affected my cycle (it became longer and slightly irregular).  Since cutting it out periods returned to normal and we didn't have much trouble falling pregnant.  I personally find that rice and oat milk are very watery and tasteless but almond milk is the best replacement of soy I can find.  Its very good for you and has lots of calcium!  Hope this helps!

#28 horsey

Posted 05 October 2011 - 01:53 AM

I think the bean sprout etc risk is because they are grown in the ground usually using fertilizer of the animal excreta variety to help them grow, so guessing salmonella, as pp said, plus possibly ecoli etc and I guess because they may be hard to throughly wash. Whch is why prepackaged salads can be an issue and why you can eat the ones u make yourself- you are more likely to give them a through clean. Normally this isnt a problem, but when you are UTD your immune sytem isnt as good as it usually is.


#29 WinterIsComing

Posted 04 November 2011 - 05:44 PM

QUOTE (Nut @ 04/03/2011, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Meats - Listeria is one of the only bacteria that thrives in the fridge and will grow faster in acold environment. The recommendation is to only eat meat HOT. Suggests that home cooked cold meats is not a go. You can cook it, cool it quickly in the fridge for a few minutes and then eat it, but should not eat it after it's been sitting for a while, refrigerated or not.


You think so?. Listeria growth slows down in a cold environment. That is why we refrigirate food. I though home cooked leftovers are fine if eaten within a day of cooking.

http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/consum...food/pregnancy/

I also believe that once leftovers have gone over a day, you can still re-heat them to super hot temperature and eat safely. Heat kills all bacteria. Just like ham, which is dangerous cold, but once cooked (e.g. on a pizza), fine to eat.

Edited by Nat1976, 04 November 2011 - 05:46 PM.


#30 purpletemp

Posted 09 November 2011 - 08:07 PM

Thanks for this post. I had no ideda about sprouts and since I'm trying really hard to eat well, I am a sprout eater! I will now also not eat things that have been open in the fridge too long. Do you think I should switch to single serve yoghurts instead of the 1kg packs??

#31 rochelleellen1989

Posted 28 May 2012 - 09:22 PM

This is probably gonna sound stupid, and I did read all the important posts....BUT is there any point in the pregnancy where feta cheese (specifically goats cheese feta) is safe? what if I just had a small amount? I know there is a risk but surely just a bit should be okay? I have not had energy drinks or any soft cheese so far or soft serve or any other 'forbidden' foods.

I'm 24 weeks and have had a very uneventful and healthy pregnancy so far. surely just a teeny weeny itsy bit should be okay...??

#32 Sally08

Posted 05 June 2012 - 11:47 PM

Does anyone have any idea about how long we can store leftovers in the freezer? Is it the same as just leaving it in the fridge and must be eaten within 24 hours?

#33 Nut

Posted 10 June 2012 - 10:30 PM

QUOTE
This is probably gonna sound stupid, and I did read all the important posts....BUT is there any point in the pregnancy where feta cheese (specifically goats cheese feta) is safe? what if I just had a small amount? I know there is a risk but surely just a bit should be okay? I have not had energy drinks or any soft cheese so far or soft serve or any other 'forbidden' foods.

I'm 24 weeks and have had a very uneventful and healthy pregnancy so far. surely just a teeny weeny itsy bit should be okay...??


Ultimately what you eat is up to you. This is simply a guide based on what are considered to be the highest risk food that are more likely to contain the bacteria. The risk of getting listeria is extremely low and avoiding certain foods is mostly precautionary.

As far as I am aware, there is no point in pregnancy when getting listeria is considered safe. If you choose to eat it, the chances of getting listeria are EXTREMELY small. Feta is a risk because it is matured in brine. The longer it is out of the brine the less of a risk it carries. I believe (don't quote me on this) that after 90 days out of the brine the risk bacteria risk is virtually nil. Brie and the like are air ripened cheeses so they have a higher chance of having the bacteria.

There are people out there who pay no attention to these recommendations. Many European countries still have plenty of cheeses and deli meats as these things make up a fairly significant portion of their diet. Will eating a teeny weeny itsy bit be OK? Probably. One cannot guarantee it 100%, but more likely than not it would be fine. I had the occasional sneak of brie and feta.

The main things I avoided completely were soft serve ice creams, deli meats, salad bars, sandwich bars and the like. I did not go back to Subway after I saw a cockroach crawling over the food prep area and the girl just flicked it away and kept going.

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#34 Guest_baZINGA!!_*

Posted 26 June 2012 - 08:28 PM

Does anyone know if pregnant ladies can eat meat like bacon, salami etc of they are steaming hot on a pizza?

Thanks

#35 her mum

Posted 26 June 2012 - 08:34 PM

Yep, you can eat them if they have been cooked, as long as they're still hot! Hot, fresh pizza (home made or from somewhere you trust) and toasties are fine.

#36 Guest_baZINGA!!_*

Posted 28 June 2012 - 04:18 PM

Craving cheesecake!

Could I eat this cheesecake?
http://www.bestrecipes.com.au/recipe/Cooki...cake-L6348.html

QUOTE (her mum @ 26/06/2012, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yep, you can eat them if they have been cooked, as long as they're still hot! Hot, fresh pizza (home made or from somewhere you trust) and toasties are fine.



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#37 Chelara

Posted 28 June 2012 - 04:27 PM

Yes that cheesecake is fine as long as its kept refrigerated.

#38 constanceschofield

Posted 30 June 2012 - 03:13 AM

Just stick to the traditional pregnancy diet of pickles and ice cream, you'll be fine.

Edited by constanceschofield, 30 June 2012 - 03:14 AM.


#39 Genesis_88

Posted 30 June 2012 - 06:02 PM

Healthy diet means healthy baby.. original.gif

#40 MayaAvenues

Posted 17 August 2012 - 12:00 AM

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#41 kate_123

Posted 27 September 2012 - 01:00 PM

Hi everyone, newly pregnant (4 1/2 weeks). Im finding it really hard to know what to eat when out at the shops. Seems like all the 'healthy' options are bad. Is getting a sandwich made at a sandwich bar really a bad choice? Seems like the junk food is 'safer' cause its hot but I don't want to eat that. Also how do tell whether its food poisoning or morning sickness?
Thanks.

#42 Koobie83

Posted 01 November 2012 - 04:27 PM

QUOTE (kate_123 @ 27/09/2012, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi everyone, newly pregnant (4 1/2 weeks). Im finding it really hard to know what to eat when out at the shops. Seems like all the 'healthy' options are bad. Is getting a sandwich made at a sandwich bar really a bad choice? Seems like the junk food is 'safer' cause its hot but I don't want to eat that. Also how do tell whether its food poisoning or morning sickness?
Thanks.


Hey!
I was definitely there! I would stay away from the sandwich bar. Anything that isn't freshly cooked, or has prepared salads and meat is a listeria risk. Whilst listeria is incredibly rare, you really don't want it and neither does your baby! I know.. pregnancy really limits your lunch choices and I definitely was leaning towards junk during my earlier weeks because my morning sickness refused to even let me think of eating healthy food and it was an easy option. I found that buying a bag of frozen vegies (you know the microwave bagged types), some microwave rice (cooked right through) and buying some grilled chicken from Nandos was an easy and healthy lunch choice.

Basically as long as it's cooked all the way through and is steaming hot, it's safe. Or if you can stomach salads and want a sandwich, make them yourself just to be safe. You never know where those snotty 15 year kids hands have been (or the food!).

Good luck!

#43 kumbet

Posted 06 November 2012 - 06:36 AM

This is soooo interesting.. thanks for the info

#44 HRH Katana Geldar

Posted 30 June 2013 - 10:39 AM

Ladies, need a little help here.
Not sure if I'm UTD, but DH and I had a special night away that involves a gastronomy dinner with this menu.

http://sydney.langhamhotels.com.au/pdf/Galileo%20Menu.pdf

Ordinarily, it would be ok but with that much seafood and the vego menu having a strangely cooked egg I'm not sure what to do.

#45 Samiitraveller

Posted 08 July 2013 - 12:22 PM

Hi, I love broccoli and i saw that broccoli sprouts shouldn't be eaten? i googled some images to make sure it wasn't the regular broccoli and some of those pictures were the regular broccoli. Is this true?

#46 marllew

Posted 19 September 2013 - 10:27 AM

Help! First time post (& only 15 weeks so this is all still pretty new to me...) I was out to dinner last night & after careful conisderation of the menu - managed to eat a mouthful of cooked but cold crab meat :doh: I realised as soon as i had put the first mouthful in my mouth that it was cold, so stopped eating it, however it totally freaked me out. Am hopig given it was a really nice resturant (a very well known Melbourne Tapas restaurant) that the fish was really fresh, and cooked recently (& then cooled) - any advice???

#47 sugarcane

Posted 20 November 2013 - 03:32 PM

I miss sushi as well, more than any other food. Especially since MS has eased and I have an appetite again :) Yesterday I walked past a sushi train and literally had a battle in my own head to stop myself going in. Any onlookers would have thought I was mad!!

#48 AmyCat

Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:31 AM

Oh dear!!!
When I found out I was pregnant my Dr told me I don't need to worry about most things, as I am vegetarian. She said "Sushi, oh you don't need to worry about that..."  So I figured there were only dangers for seafood/meat sushi, so I have still been eating avocado sushi!  Also have been eating pre-packed salads, as I never got told about them!

Am 22 weeks, and neither of these items were in the brochures my Dr gave me, can anyone give me some insight of why they are no-no's???

#49 SWMonkey

Posted 29 December 2013 - 12:58 PM

View PostAmyCat, on 29 December 2013 - 10:31 AM, said:

Oh dear!!!
When I found out I was pregnant my Dr told me I don't need to worry about most things, as I am vegetarian. She said "Sushi, oh you don't need to worry about that..."  So I figured there were only dangers for seafood/meat sushi, so I have still been eating avocado sushi!  Also have been eating pre-packed salads, as I never got told about them!

Am 22 weeks, and neither of these items were in the brochures my Dr gave me, can anyone give me some insight of why they are no-no's???

It's not only the fish/meat products that are a potential source of food poisoning in sushi, it's the rice too. Properly prepared sushi rice should have enough added vinegar so it is at an acidic pH level and hence would prevent the growth of bacillus cereus bacteria. However, if it has been sitting out too long etc it could be contaminated.

Pre-packaged salads are a no-no because the listeria bacterium loves those conditions - cold,raw, long shelf life etc. Hence why it's better to buy your salad ingredients whole so you can be sure they are washed properly and consumed quickly.

I would also like to add a general point about reheating leftovers, it's important that leftovers are refrigerated quickly, not left to cool completely before refrigerating. While it's true that re-heating will kill the bacteria, it won't kill any toxins that have been produced by bacteria (from food has been sitting at room temp for too long). These toxins are heat-resistant and can cause food-borne illnesses.

#50 LilMissChatterbox

Posted 29 December 2013 - 08:12 PM

Agreed - dietician told me to put leftovers in the fridge as soon as the steam stops.




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