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Does anyone use DVDs/cartoons as a kind of social story?
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Posted 31 October 2010 - 09:50 PM
So I'm sure everyone has read what happened with my son in venting, but if you haven't there was an incident at school where he gestured with a knife(that he had taken unbeknowns to me) at a classmate and made a threat(which it seems was meant as a joke but obviously was not funny and a very serious thing to do)
Anyway the circumstances aren't really important, what is important is how we move forward. Someone mentioned in the thread to look at his TV viewing, which is actually pretty limited but he does watch a few cartoons, mostly on DVD and some animal pl;anet type docos and at the time I thought it pretty impossible that it could be the cause of anything. I went through their DVD collection today and there is one I have pulled out which has left me wondering, it'd probably be fairly innocuous to most but it does include a 'battle' type sequence(it's an 'ants' type movie with a whole bunch of bugs that have a war, etc). It now occurs to me that this movie has been watched quite a bit over the last few weeks and some of the gestures I've noticed him doing come from this movie(things like throwing an arm into the air as if holding a spear while in play with his brother). Now it could be completely unrelated but it might not be so to be safe I've chucked it in the bin and I am thinking that I might try replacing this DVD with a few cartoons depicting sickly sweet friendships, think angelina ballerina, my little pony, etc (I know he's a boy but he'll still happily watch these)
Has anyone done this and did it change anything? Do you think it's worth a go?
FWIW I struggle to get him to sit and do social stories with me but he will quite happily watch half an hour of TV if I sit him down infront of a DVD
Posted 31 October 2010 - 10:31 PM
They look really good but to be honest I'm not sure they would really appeal to DS enough for him to actually *want* to watch them IYKWIM. I'm thinking the cartoons because I guess I thought they might be a bit more subliminal, if I make things too overt he seems to just switch off.
They are a lot of money if they don't work or he won't watch them... that said it occurs to me we haven't used a single dollar of our Facshia funding yet and I imagine they would be easily covered if we got them through a psych
Edited by 3_for_me, 31 October 2010 - 10:32 PM.
Posted 31 October 2010 - 10:54 PM
Angelina Ballerina is not really sickly sweet friendships IMHO. I recall an episode where one girl "borrowed" her mothers brooch, lost it, lied, ran away from her parents etc until finally she must have fessed up. Another when they lied to the father about breaking his violin, they made up several elaborate lies to get out of it, but eventually made it OK. It takes a while between the lieing, remorse, making things right - so might be a bit too subtle for a social story? Might teach that making up lies to hide the truth is a good option??
Was the DVD "A Bugs Life"? My son started taunting his brother with phraseology picked up straight from this movie - I forget what it was now - but not really modelling ideal behaviour!!
I watched Finley the Fire Engine one time recently, and thought it was "teaching" a lesson, can't remember what it was now - maybe telling the truth. A few episodes of Bob the Builder really emphasis team work, working together, helping each other. At the very least - these truck, fire engine, racing car (Roary) ones don't seem to have negative things to teach the kids!!
Posted 31 October 2010 - 11:10 PM
LOL guess I'm not really up on Angelina Ballerina
But I think you get what I'm getting at anyway. It wasn't a bugs life it was just some random generic story DVD (you know like the $2 versions of Aladdin or whatever you get at the cheap shops), so no great loss to me that it's gone.
But yeah like Finley the Fire engine, etc. I guess as long as I don't get any more of those $2 cheapies it probably won't hurt even if it doesn't help
Posted 01 November 2010 - 07:02 AM
My DS will sit through them because of his sisters but he also has asked(taken from the shop then i had to go back and pay) some care bears like good luck bear and share bear.
They arn't perfect but they might do what you want if you choose them well.
Posted 01 November 2010 - 07:05 AM
Avoid Finley at all costs! There is a rather nasty truck in that called Dex and he is revoltingly bad but never really seems to learn from his mistakes. CareBears drive me mental but could work for you
Posted 01 November 2010 - 10:04 AM
I like Franklin. There are also a lot of books - we have a few, one is about being messy, one about being afraid of the dark and another about being bossy. I purposely bought the bossy one and I do think it helps a little as Franklin is bossy so none of his friends want to play with him - DS is learning that if he bosses his brother around he wont want to play with him.
The tv show is on ABC, not sure exactly when though.
Posted 01 November 2010 - 10:20 AM
I will second 'Franklin'. My DD is obsessed with him. We have about 30 books (with more on the way for christmas) We haven't watched the tv show, but a lot of the newer books are based on tv episodes. There is always a great moral to each story and I often find myself bringing up stories in conversations with DS, eg.'remember when Franklin...... and such and such happened?'
Posted 01 November 2010 - 10:40 AM
Does he like music? Little Einsteins is pretty good if he does, it's a Disney Cartoon (on Foxtel), we have several DVD's as DS1 used to love it. Nice stories, teamwork, adventure, based on classical music - it's actually quite brilliant how they weave it all in. There's In the Night Garden and Yo Gabba Gabba too, although might be a bit young for him, they make me want to blow my brains out, but the messages are rather nice really. Mickey Mouse Clubhouse would be another one.
Posted 01 November 2010 - 07:56 PM
Franklin's the turtle right?? He loves Franklin and to be honest, as far as annoying kids cartoons go, I actually don't mind it either. Anyone know if you can get Franklin on DVD so we aren't locked into the times on the ABC?
Carebears is a good idea too
I can deal with ITNG but I can't handle Yo Gabba Gabba Besides neither of them really hold his interest, like you say maybe a bit young for him.
Posted 02 November 2010 - 11:27 AM
I'd recommend Charlie and Lola - actually covers lots of social skills and is a lot of fun. My ASD 6 yo and my NT 3 yo love it.
Posted 02 November 2010 - 11:34 AM
My 12yo nephew was here the other day and happily sat down and watched Franklin with my kids - so you might get some longevity out of it!
The Mr Men cartoons often have some sort of theme of appropriate social interaction.
Posted 02 November 2010 - 12:05 PM
There is heaps of Franklin stuff on ebay, more if you are prepared to go to the US for it. Ok with the US exchange rate atm. He is huge in Canada, there seems to be nothing you can't buy over there
Posted 02 November 2010 - 06:46 PM
I also agree with Franklin.
We also watch Poko. There's a bit of a fantasy element to it with magic and imagination but the reason we watch it is because something always goes wrong and instead of having a meltdown he is given some way of coping. We are also watching one particular episode over and over again in order to learn how to have a bath.
To be honest I have used lots of different individual eps of things off ABC2 to teach various things. You really do need to preview everything though because all shows often have some ridiculous behaviour in them.
One show not to use for social stories is Charlie and Lola - this would be one of the worst.
Posted 02 November 2010 - 08:13 PM
Oh Poko has some good episodes!
Also beneficial to children, the narrator helps Poko to name and understand his feelings, and find appropriate ways to deal with them: for example, on some occasions, when Poko has become angry at Minus, he has gone and given a blast on his tuba to release his frustration. Another common solution is for Poko to give Mr.Murphy a hug. In this way, the show suggests positive methods of dealing with problems.When this happens they usually sing..."hug a monkey...hug him tight...hug him till you feel alright"
Posted 02 November 2010 - 08:22 PM
All my kids love Poko
but my 4yr old is the only ones thats home all the time while he's on. Maybe i should be investing in some of his DVDs...
Posted 02 November 2010 - 08:36 PM
Arthur is another good one on ABC2, lots of story lines about friends and how to treat them. Also Olivia can sometimes have a good message (not always, though)
Yes, I second prescreen everything! Alot of shows (ANYTHING with winnie the pooh!) can just be crap.
A quick way of discerning good from bad cartoons is to watch the credits and look for credits to a child pysch or some kind child developmental specialist.
*ETA Sorry, this is my other ID because my new pregnancy! I am a SN mum, have been around along time!
Edited by Clare321, 02 November 2010 - 08:40 PM.
Posted 03 November 2010 - 08:11 AM
Poko and Arthur I had never considered in this way - Both boys really like them though (and I like Arther so watch it with them!).
Have a look on book depository for the books.
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