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#1 Gummy_Bear

Posted 16 July 2010 - 10:56 PM

Okay, so my daycare has put in a funding submission to apply for a pre prep to be at their daycare. Now, only two of most expensive private schools in my town have a pre prep program for children aged 4?  

So can someone please give the 101 on PRE PREP.

Does your child do it?  Do they enjoy it? Is it beneficial? Is it complusory at this stage? Will it be? I thought that this is what PREP is for - to introduce academic learning experiences whilst they are 5, not 4.

#2 ~Cleopatra~

Posted 16 July 2010 - 11:37 PM

Its Kindy (Qld) they have started refering to it as pre-prep since prep started. I don't know why lol my boy's kindy is now refered to as Kindergarten and Pre-prep which I think is a bit of a mouthful! So I guess in a daycare means they will be offering a kindy program like they used to offer a preschool program.

Kindy isn't compulsory but it is a good idea to do something before heading to 5 days a week of prep. It is play-based and introduces some basic concepts (writing their name etc, learning rules etc). My boys love it.

Edited by ~Cleopatra~, 16 July 2010 - 11:41 PM.


#3 JuliaGulia

Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:03 AM

In Melbourne, Prep is the first formal year of schooling.  Pre-prep is a year for kids who are in the borderline age group, so would be 5 by April 30, but not considered ready for school.  It's a bit more than kindergarten (for 4 year olds in Vic) but not as demanding as school.

I think it's quite a good idea, and my Feb 28 baby would have benefited from it as he didn't start school until the year he turned 6.

Unfortunately, there are not many programmes available.  The school we are looking at moving DD1 to has a class like this, but we don't have any more kids who will fit into the model.

#4 Chocolate Addict

Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:05 AM

I wish they would unify the school system across Australia. I am no idea what pre prep is, is it the same as kindergarten??

Kindergarten in Victoria is for 4/5yo kids (they have to turn 4 before 30 June 2010 to enrol in 2011 kinder)
They have 10, 12 or 15 hour programs mostly and they are spread over 2, 3 or 4 days (that I am aware of). It is also subsidised by the government so you pay around $200 ish per term.

After a year at kinder, which isnt' complusory, they go to prep which is their first year of school.



#5 littlecuties

Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:18 AM

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Kindergarten in Victoria is for 4/5yo kids (they have to turn 4 before 30 June 2010 to enrol in 2011 kinder)


My son is in 4 year old kinder in Vic and the child has to turn 4 before April 30 in the year they are at kinder. They certainly don't have to turn 4 tby June 30 his year to go next year. They can start school if they turn 5 by April 30. It used to be by June 30th but that changed in 1994, the year my eldest started kinder.

#6 FeralProudSwahili

Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:23 AM

I'm confused- what is pre-prep? DD turns 4 at the end of the year and will attend preschool next year and then Kindergarten the year after.

#7 Overtherainbow

Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:23 AM

In WA 4 year olds have kindy.  This is for children who are between 3.5 and 4.5.  It's 2 full days per week and is offered at all state schools and independent but is not compulsory.  Children participate in a mix of play based learning, mat sessions, outdoor activities and table activities to learn socialisation, early language and mathematic skills and motor skills.

It is a good time to discover if a child needs early intervention.  It should also be developmentally suitable, creating an environment for children to learn through play and fun activities.  Whilst it isn't formal desk learning like year one it does teach many skills like writing names, holding pencils, scissors, paintbrushes correctly, rhyming, syllables, numbers and number understanding, etc.

They also have themes such as community, me, insects, etc that are appropriate for their age.

#8 3_for_me

Posted 17 July 2010 - 12:25 AM

Swahili I'm guessing kindergarten where you are is the first year of official schooling?  Which would make preschool the same thing as pre-prep in your case.

#9 BBM

Posted 17 July 2010 - 09:15 AM

Ok, so in Queensland, with PREP now being our official "first year" of compulsory schooling, pre-prep is basically our pre-school year.

My DS went to daycare from 12mths old - 4yrs old. Then did pre-prep, @ school, then went onto Prep.

Our pre-prep classes are run as a entry point to the school's, although they do 'daycare' hours if you choose to utilise that part of it. They use a constructed curriculum during school hours (9-3) and run it to a schedule similar to a normal school day.  The other times (before 9am & after 3pm) are just like daycare basically.  

Students attending pre-prep must turn 4 prior to 30th June in the year they are attending. They then go onto prep the following year.

So if your child was turning 5 anytime between 1st July 2010 & 30th June 2011, they would be at pre-prep this year and start PREP in 2011.

To quote our school's Pre-prep description -

QUOTE
To incorporate what we believe are the essential learning areas to be covered each day, we have constructed the curriculum around six Key Learning Areas for the Pre-Prep Programme.

These are:

1. Social & Personal Learning
2. Health & Physical Learning
3. Literacy, Language & Communication
4. Numeracy
5. Science
6. Creative Arts

The Pre-Prep students wear the ---- sports uniform each day, including hat & carry a ------ duffel bag.

To be eligible for Pre-Prep, children must turn four before June 30 in their year of entry. They are then invited to be part of the Prep Programme the following year.

The Centre opens at 7.00am each day & closes at 6.00pm each evening for those who wish to access the Long Day Care component. The Before School Care runs from 7.00am to 9.00am & After School Care runs from 3.00pm to 6.00pm.

The distinctive Pre-Prep Programme runs from 9.00am to 3.00pm.

Your child can attend either 3 or 5 days a week.

The Centre operates 50 weeks of the year.


QUOTE
Context for Learning

In the Pre-Prep Centre the children learn:
• In a stimulating “Play Based” environment
• Through a “Play Based” curriculum
• By staff responding to the interests of the children
• Through integration across the curriculum
• By building on prior experiences and knowledge
Through PLAY the children are involved in a wide variety of open ended activities that
stimulate the imagination and allows for creativity.


My boys LOVED it, we loved that it mean't they could get out of the daycare system a bit earlier too.
Our pre-prep centre is staffed by the most AMAZING teachers, and all the kids thrive in the fun, yet educating atmosphere. original.gif

Hope that answers some questions for you.



#10 missjones

Posted 17 July 2010 - 09:32 AM

all states have an 'pre-prep/kindy/preschool option in the year prior to starting compulsory schooling.

often these programs run as half day/part day programs  -3 day week prgrams ... which aren't accessible to many families where both parents are working.

Those who were using LDC as an alternative in the year before compulsory schooling had often had a less equitable program offered to their children.

The government has now set in motion a ruling that all LDC centres that offer 'pre-school' rooms for 4 year olds - offer a designated 'pre-school' program each day.

This new ruling also states that pre-school rooms in LDC centres are to be taught by qualified early childhood teachers. Many of the 'franchise' LDC centres have already implemented such a program.

In the OPs intance, I would guess her centre is simply applying for funding to come into line with this.

#11 *LucyE*

Posted 17 July 2010 - 10:00 AM

I'm in QLD with Prep year (turn 5 by June 30) being our non compulsory, but compulsory full time if you attend, year before year 1 (turn 6 by June 30) which is the first year of formal schooling.

Does your child do it?
DS did it and DD will do it next year.

Do they enjoy it? Is it beneficial?
DS loved it.  I believe DD will thrive with it.  

I have specifically chosen a pre prep that encourages genuine 'play to learn' philosophies.  They do not deliberately teach how to write their own names, numeracy etc.  To me, that's what Prep year is for (even then, I feel that is too young).  It is a safe, relaxed, fun environment where they can get accustomed to being dropped off and left with other children their own age.  They do learn a lot in that year but the place I am looking at is very child led.  There are plenty of places around here that offers a pre prep program but there are only two schools/kindys that I would send my children to.


Is it complusory at this stage? Will it be?
Not in QLD and highly unlikely due to funding and supply issues.

#12 FeralProudSwahili

Posted 17 July 2010 - 10:09 AM

QUOTE
Swahili I'm guessing kindergarten where you are is the first year of official schooling? Which would make preschool the same thing as pre-prep in your case.
Ok, that makes sense. Thanks!



#13 KatakaGeoGirl

Posted 17 July 2010 - 10:21 AM

I investigated a pre-prep program, because my daughter was technically 'ready' academically for school but not old enough. It is a bridging program - gives the kids who need it the additional year before first year of formal schooling.

QUOTE (swahili @ 17/07/2010, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok, that makes sense. Thanks!


preschool isn't the same as pre-prep. Pre-Prep is more educationally based - is a bridging year for kids who need the extra stimulation.




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