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#1 Seventh Heaven

Posted 08 July 2010 - 08:58 AM

Hello!

I have my minivan, everyone is restrained to the maximum safety - even before the laws came in.

However, my DH has a commodore wagon which we had the dicky seat installed in  (3 seater bench seat - 2 with headrests).  I have had before my DS2's maxirider in the 3rd row (there is anchor points on the back of the dicky seat), however the top of the seat is only cm's from the roof of the car - and TBH causes a real visibility issue.  So I have never done it again.  This is the same with my DD's pegasus booster.

Point being that I can't have any booster in the 3rd row...at all!

My DD is only 6 - and DS2 is 4.  Are they allowed to sit in the dicky seat at all?  The seats are made for children up to 12 years old, and the seatbelts are at a children's placement (they are lower), so I would assume they would be classified as "boosters" in themselves???

In my heart, I know they are safe, however I am worried that a cop would be an a*se and give us a ticket.

#2 LittleWhiteDove

Posted 08 July 2010 - 09:04 AM

Hi there! I'm not sure of the accuracy, but friends of mine have a Commodore wagon with the dicky seat, ad they were told when they got it that it is classified as a booster, because it is designed specifically for children, with the lower belt placement etc. Which makes sense, it couldn't be any worse than those little half booster cushions, could it?

I'm not sure how you'd find out for sure though - maybe contact the RTA?

#3 IsolaBella

Posted 08 July 2010 - 11:41 AM

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Can I still use the additional seat (dickie seat) that I have in the back of my station wagon?

Dickie seats will be permitted for use for children aged four and less than seven years provided the seat is suitable for children's height and weight and a lap sash seatbelt or seatbelt with a child safety harness is used.


http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Safety...dRestraints.htm

I know it is from vicroads, but the laws are NATIONAL laws so each state will have the same laws when they are implemented in all states.

So yes, if they are 'dickie seats' rated for up to 12yrs they are OK to be used instead of a booster.

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Can I still use the third row auxiliary seats (dickie seats) for my child and do I need to use a child restraint?
• Children may still use a dickie seat if the category is suitable and rated for their size and/or age.
• If a dickie seat is rated for adult use then a child restraint must be used.
• Depending on the category of the dickie seat, you may be able to use the seat and seatbelt without a child restraint.
• You will need to read the vehicle manufacturer’s instructions to check if the dickie seat will accommodate a child restraint.


http://www.kidsafensw.org/docs/Road%20Safe...pril%202010.pdf

Edited by lsolaBella, 08 July 2010 - 11:44 AM.


#4 feral strawberry

Posted 08 July 2010 - 11:46 AM

I looked into this also as we just bought a wagon with an extra seat. As pp stated they are ok with the new laws as the seats are designed for children. You are not meant to use booster/baby seats with the dickie seats as there needs to be a certain amount of clearance between top of childs head and roof. That is the reason there are height restriction (think it's 100cm when sitting) on these seats. The anchor point is there for using a H harness with the seat.




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