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#26 louisem

Posted 08 July 2011 - 06:54 PM

QUOTE (tropichusband @ 19/08/2010, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did anyone who travelled overseas for any IF treatment (IVF/ICSI/DE) get special medical treatment visas?

No, I didn't need such a visa - I'm not sure what you would need to...
If you wish, please PM me if you would lit to chat.
My overseas donor experience was wonderful - thoroughly recomend you keep going, although there are many pitfalls!

Edited by Freckles, 09 July 2011 - 11:14 AM.
Ed. to remove contact details. Interested members can contact you via PM.


#27 Spock

Posted 09 July 2011 - 12:23 PM

hi ladies,

I have low amh (1.1) for my age (35, soon to be 36) and have been doing ivf for over 2 years now. Sadly I have also been through 4 m/c's in a row. We are now in the middle of another cycle but will be doing pgd testing and we're not really expecting good news. My fs has asked if we would consider an egg donor as my eggs don't seem to be any good. I didn't know you could even look and have egg donors from overseas (when as the recipient you are based in Australia) so I'm glad this has been asked about here. I wasn't keen on asking my sister or friends here to donate for reasons others have already mentioned. Overseas egg donation sounds great from all your journeys. Only tricky part is I am of Indian background so not sure if there are many Indian egg donors? I would like the egg donor to be as close to my characteristics as possible.

Those of you who have had success with overseas egg donors, do you mind PMing me the details of the agencies that you used and your thoughts on them? I don't know really where to start.

I think it is absolutely wonderful that there are egg donors out there. This might just be the way we form our family  original.gif

Thank you for sharing all your experiences and journeys. I felt so much happier after reading this thread last night in bed, knowing there are other options for us.

#28 akt

Posted 04 October 2011 - 06:42 PM

QUOTE (Possmanda @ 19/05/2010, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi bjc24, I've just turned 43 and I have spent over 20 years either doing IVF or saving up to do IVF; I felt the same as you do - exhausted!

We went to South Africa - it was considerably cheaper than the US, we could still pick our donor and saw both baby pictures and adult pictures of our donor (we dealt with a company that was actually based in California, so could show the adult photos; agencies that are based in South Africa aren't allowed to). We chose to go to Johannesburg, as there were direct flights there for us. The experience was wonderful in comparison to Australia. Our nurse was contactable 24/7; she even rang on her day off to let us know the numbers of embryos still developing. The lab was modern, clean and quiet and there were no blaring lights or half a dozen students in the same room. We chose to have 2 embryos replaced rather than 1, because, let's face it, I was no spring chicken! My problem relates to endometriosis tying back my tubes - the sperm wasn't getting to the eggs. By the time I could afford the IVF treatment though, I was going through perimenopause and my eggs were hard boiled!

My donor was willing to donate for altruisic purposes, but also because there was a reasonable fee to compensate her for her time and energy. I don't care for the Australian policy of not paying donors reasonable fees for their time and energy. I find that it deters many potential donors, and some of the donors that are still willing to donate seem to be unduly interested beyond the donation - they want pictures and yearly updates, they want to chose who the donation goes to (which would be unacceptable for other body parts), etc. I think that for some donors, its more of a case of lending an egg, rather than donating! That said, there are many who are generous in their spirit anyway, but I think giving a reasonable fee would actually help put it into perspective for some donors.

Even with the fee, our costs were comparable with Australia - we paid about $15,000 all up, of which $5000 was flights and accommodation, and the rest was towards the donor, the treatment, all the medications, etc. Now that the Australian dollars is so good against the greenback, it would probably be even cheaper. We even got to go to Zambia to see the Victoria Falls and went on a safari for 3 days. So even if treatment wasn't successful, we figured that we had had a wonderful holiday (and it helped stop me from obsessing over every little twinge or buying up loads of hpts!). As it happens, we ended up with stowaways...

But you want to know success rates - our clinic said between 75 to 80%. We took into account my age and the many, many years of failure at IVF and the distance we were travelling, and asked for them to replace 2 of embryos. Both grew, developed and we have 2 healthy, perky kids who look a great deal like ours would probably have looked, had we been successful with my eggs. Our donor was 30 when she donated, had already had her 2 children and didn't want any more, so was a proven donor if you like. She produced 9 eggs, of which 7 became embryos, and 5 went on to blastocyts, so very high quality! We have 3 frozen in case we want to expand our family, and I think we probably might in a few more years.

My problem was with the tubes being held down by the endo, not with my uterus. I imagine that if you have problems with the uterus, then that would bring down the success rate anyway. If, on the other hand, your problem is with hormones, age or blocked tubes, then your chances of success are very much higher. Again, my husband was fine - any issues with the sperm would also bring down your chances.

Finally, I love these kids, full stop. I am their biological mother; I grew them, gave birth to them, nurtured them - it may be to a plan that someone else has written with my husband, but I'm the brickie who built them up - without me, those plans would just be a pipe dream.


#29 akt

Posted 04 October 2011 - 06:52 PM

hi everyone

thank you for sharing your stories.  I have been reading these forums for months now but never worked up the courage to write.  

I am 34 years old and have just today had our 6th failed ivf attempt.  Our problem isn't getting eggs, we get plenty, our problem is egg quailty - we always get 10 - 16 eggs each collection but only once have our eggs made it to blastocyst.  This did result in a pregancy but we lost our little baby girl at 11 weeks.  

It's the same problem every time and i don't think i can keep throwing all my energy, time and money into failed ivf attempts when there is obviously an egg quality issue here.  There is no problem with my husband it just all comes down to my egg quality.

Has anyone experienced similar problems?  has anyone been successful in getting plenty of eggs but rarely make it to transfer?

We think we may now look at egg donars, from what i have read unless you know someone egg donars in Aus this option is difficult.  

I am keen to hear of the clinics in South Africa that some of you have used as this sounds more affordable to me than the US.  I also hear NZL is an option.  Has anyone been down this path?

If you have had good experiences and it sounds like some of you have had such wonderful, happy experiences would you be willing to share the details of the clinics etc you went to overseas?

Thank you all so much for sharing and for helping, it really does help to read your stories.

a

#30 Rose2011

Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:42 PM

Hi, I'm very interested to read all this. We've had 4 IVF cycles and I just went through my 2nd m/c this weekend. I'm 35, have low AMH and my egg quality is poor - quantity of eggs was high at my first attempt but numbers are dropping steadily over the past months. After good initial fertilisation results we've never made it to blast stage, there are always only 1 or 2 embryo's left at day 3 that look reasonable. I've been pregnant before but we lost our little boy at 33 weeks and since then we haven't had any luck.

Our FS recently suggested going overseas for egg donation and I'm currently thinking about this option. My first response would be that I want my own biological child, but I realise that there's so much more to being a mother than producing an egg. Just like there's so much more to being a father than depositing some sperm. We would chose to go overseas because there's nobody here in Australia that I could ask to be a donor (only friend I would consider is 38 and I believe this will not be accepted). And I would rather pay an anonymous donor than accepting an offer from someone I've met which could lead to certain expectations and dependencies.

I'm not sure whether we should take this route now or wait a few more years and see whether we are truely unable to have a child using my own eggs. My instinct says to wait a few more years although I've spent the last 3 years of my life trying for a baby and I'm not sure how much more disappointment I can take.

#31 pisces00

Posted 05 October 2011 - 05:14 AM

the 7.30 report on ABC are looking for couples who are considering going to Athens to use a donor from one of the clinics there and would allow them to follow your journey - if interested please contact me on via PM.

Edited by Freckles, 05 October 2011 - 11:21 AM.
Ed. to remove contact details. Interested members can contact you via PM.


#32 chloe69

Posted 06 October 2011 - 12:41 PM

Hello Akl - I've can't help with experience on the Sth African clinics but I've started researching them.  I'm told the Cape Town clinic has a good reputation but I am also looking at one in Johannesburg. The lead time is about 12 weeks and the cost is about $7K excluding flights. I'll pass on any feedback/info I get from my contact with them.

I'd also be interested if others have personal recommendations of where to try...

Chloe

#33 samantha1972

Posted 09 November 2011 - 09:13 AM

I have read some forums for seeking treatment overseas in the Czech Republic, they have a 65% success rate, costs around $10,000, they put 2 eggs back in, the egg donors are young woman between 25-30 years old.  Alot of women have had success and have babies and are going back for a second time. PM me for more info.


Edited by Freckles, 09 November 2011 - 12:33 PM.
Ed. to remove information. INterested paries can PM you for more details.


#34 Mia2

Posted 09 November 2011 - 09:16 PM

QUOTE (laudie @ 12/07/2010, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Ladies,

I am hoping you can offer me some advice.

I am 37 years old and have been doing IVF for the past 5 years. I have low ovarian reserve and have also suffered from Endo.

I have done 10 IVF cycles (two using known donors). Sadly our latest donor cycle resulted in no eggs.

We are now thinking about looking overseas for a final push for eggs but have no idea where to start. I have been reading your posts and notice you all have some experience in this department! I have done some searching online but would very much appreciate any recommendations of clinics to look into. I have heard mention of one in San Dieago.

Anything pointers you can give me would be appreciated.

LL


#35 Mia2

Posted 09 November 2011 - 09:31 PM

Hi there I read your post and felt I might be able to help wink.gif
Your story touched a heart string with me as I have been in your shoes although not quite as many cycles,
We have been ttc for about 7 years with 6 cycles in Australia 3 with my own eggs and no luck at all sad.gif and then 3 with a known donor in Oz also nothing sad.gif
We also fell pregnant twice during this time once when I was 40 and I miscarried at 3 months and then when I was 42 when we had stillborn twins due to complications.
We then decided to look overseas and found a company on the net called gift of life rolleyes.gif
They are a donor agency based in South Africa, they were totally amazing and held my hand all the way, I went over there and it was so much for profecional than here (I live in a small town in Oz)
They have over 200 donors and it was hard to choose at first, in the end I became to frendly with them that I send Adult pics of me and hubby and they narrowed down my search for me wink.gif
They organised all my accomodation and we also even went on a  3 day safari in a game park which was amazing cool.gif
I am now very happy to say I am now 8 weeks pregnant and over the moon they still support me even now I am back in Oz,
The clinic I went to was Medfem in Joburg and saw Dr Rodrugez , he was amazing and I can still email him any time I want, they are there at your bec and call 24-7 original.gif
I should also mention that we were able to do PGT there where they can test the embryos for abnormalities , that way you only put back the strong ones and the risk of miscarrage is next to nothing of course that was very important to us wink.gif
All I can say is contact them , (GIFT OF LIFE)  they have both done IVF for years and now have their babies but they know what its like, its amazing where a bit of time spent on google can get you,
Good luck and I know it will happen for you
XO
Mia

#36 babyblessing

Posted 01 January 2012 - 09:18 AM

Hi everyone,
I am new to this site but read your messages and would love to share my story and offer advice if needed.

I tried the IVF clinics in Valencia/Spain and one in Prague and in Warsaw/Poland.

I can highly recommend the clinic called Novum in Warsaw Dr [name removed]. He is such a professional and passionate doctor and has the best success rates plus good prices too.

My plan is to go over next year to try a second time. The first resulted in a healthy little boy, now 4 years old!! original.gif
We did that cycle while we were still living in Germany, so I would have a question for you too, if someone can answer it because I have no idea how it works here in Australia.

How can I find out which doctor would do my pre-treatment as an egg recipient in Brisbane/Sunshine Coast?

I will have to have a cyst surgery beforehand what I plan to do with Dr [name removed] but I am not sure if QFG will do the pre-treatment too?

Appreciate your help and hope all the best for all of us in 2012!

Edited by Freckles, 03 January 2012 - 09:09 AM.
Ed. by Mod to remove health professional's details as per EB policy.


#37 kagome

Posted 01 February 2012 - 07:18 PM

QUOTE (babyblessing @ 01/01/2012, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi everyone,
I am new to this site but read your messages and would love to share my story and offer advice if needed.

I tried the IVF clinics in Valencia/Spain and one in Prague and in Warsaw/Poland.

I can highly recommend the clinic called Novum in Warsaw Dr [name removed]. He is such a professional and passionate doctor and has the best success rates plus good prices too.

My plan is to go over next year to try a second time. The first resulted in a healthy little boy, now 4 years old!! original.gif
We did that cycle while we were still living in Germany, so I would have a question for you too, if someone can answer it because I have no idea how it works here in Australia.

How can I find out which doctor would do my pre-treatment as an egg recipient in Brisbane/Sunshine Coast?

I will have to have a cyst surgery beforehand what I plan to do with Dr [name removed] but I am not sure if QFG will do the pre-treatment too?

Appreciate your help and hope all the best for all of us in 2012!



Hi babyblessing

It’s wonderful that you’re willing to share your story with other members. It does make a such difference to hear others experience and learn from it.

Sorry, I can’t help you with Brisbane/Sunshine Coast medical centre and staff. I’m from Victoria.

We are arranging to go overseas for egg donor. Would you kindly tell me about your experience with the clinic in Valencia.  I’ve done several years of IVF. Unfortunately, my only option is egg donor.  Disappointed in finding egg donor in Australia, we’ve decided to go overseas. Our IVF clinic has recommended a clinic in California, another in Valencia and one in Madras India. We’ve contacted IVI Valencia one, so far communication is very slow and their answer to our questions vague.  Would you kindly tell me about the clinic in Valencia.

Many thanks

All the best for the second child.

kagome,



#38 chloe69

Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:24 PM

Hi All
A question for those who have gone through this process and are willing to share tips...

How did you start your search for an overseas Egg donation clinic.

Is it best to ask your Australian IVF centre for recommendations and work with them do you think?

Any pitfalls that you wish you had known before you went through the process?

Chloe

#39 Spock

Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:56 PM

Hi Chloe, my fs actually recommneded I try a donor egg agency in the USA called Conceptions. He has visited them personally, knows the people running it and was very impressed with how they did things, both medically and emotionally. They work through a USA IVF clinic for all the medical side fo things like the transfer, simulation of the donor etc. My fs knows the senior doctors at this USA clinic too and is impressed with their protocols which work. It really gave me peace of mind to know I was going through a reputable agency, that treated its clients like me well but also the donors and my fs thought highly of them. They are very organised, held my hand through the whole time. My fs and clinic here in Sydney worked with Conceptions to organise all my blood tests, scans, medications that I needed in Australia. It all went very smoothly. If you are interested in the egg donor agency details, just PM me, happy to share. Goodluck!

#40 Spock

Posted 02 February 2012 - 06:05 PM

Sorry, forgot to add. We did consider other countries too but went with this USA agency because we wanted to make sure the donor was doing this for reasons other than money, we also wanted our donor to be open to the idea of communication in the future for the resulting children because we felt very strongly about a person's right to know about their genetic identity. We learned alot about this sort of stuff during our adoption application process. Some countries have laws against open contact with the donor, for example in South Africa it is all anonymous egg donation. I think (but could be wrong) that India is the same. So apart from the quality of the agency you should also consider whether you want anonymous or open egg donation. Each to their own of course. Hope that helps.

#41 kagome

Posted 05 February 2012 - 09:04 PM

Hi Chloe,

We’re in start of process Egg donor in Valencia Spain. But, I’ve thought the following information may be a help to you:
During our last IVF treatment review, FS informed us that the only way we can have kid is donor egg.  The FS also gave us information about how donor egg is in Australia and also name of three clinics in overseas.  

One in California: it was expensive for us. But, Spock is right, if you want to have communication and information about donor, then USA is the place.  Though, I don’t know whether donors are doing it from heart, or they get pay.

IVI Valencia: IVI in Valencia is famous for research and technology in infertility area. They’re cheaper than California one. We’ve started the communication with them.  Our FS will work with IVI FS, through the treatment.
Donor is anonymous. They find a donor with similar physical characteristic as the receiver.   We were told that donors receive small compensation for time and etc.

India: We didn’t consider at all.

Besides the above, we’ve researched clinic in Greece and south Africa.
Hope, this help. All the best.


#42 chloe69

Posted 06 February 2012 - 12:00 PM

Hi Spoke and Kagome
That was really helpful. Thanks.
We have family in South Africa so that is swaying my decision regarding location - but I'd much rather go where we are going to get the best & ethical result....so I'll talk to my FS and see what she suggests. I'm also googling the rest of your suggestions.

Good luck with the process Kagome. I hope it all works out for you.
Regards
Chloe

#43 scorpio2010

Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:37 AM

Hi

My DH and i are about to go down the road of donor eggs our FS and naturopath recommended South Africia Cape Fertility in Capetown they have a 70% success rate per cycle and are priced well.... We are still waiting on a price for what the agency will charge to find us a suitable donor but should have that once i send our test results through to them....


Scorpio



#44 Sally08

Posted 26 April 2012 - 01:28 PM

Hi,


First post but I've been reading and lurking on this site for a while. original.gif

DH and I went to the US for an egg donor and I'm currently 9 weeks pregnant after only 1 try. We chose the US because of the amount of medical, emotional and psychological information that is collected on a donor even down to a brief medical history of siblings and uncles/aunts! We also had a great holiday while over there (99 % of the time we were on holiday).

Edited by Sally08, 24 July 2012 - 09:12 AM.


#45 scorpio2010

Posted 26 April 2012 - 08:08 PM

Hi Sally08

Big Congrats   eexcite.gif

Could i ask you do you know what the age of your donor was?

Scorpio

#46 Sally08

Posted 26 April 2012 - 08:19 PM

QUOTE (scorpio2010 @ 26/04/2012, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi Sally08

Big Congrats   eexcite.gif

Could i ask you do you know what the age of your donor was?

Scorpio


Thank you original.gif
    The clinic we used did not have any donors over the age of 32. Ours was 30 years old.

#47 ruby-ruby

Posted 27 April 2012 - 12:27 PM

Hi I have been looking for an egg donor , in australia for a very long time, and quite a few people have offered but changed their mind at the last minute, even going through all the tests, and then ended up unable to be contacted. I have wasted lots of money this way.
I have also been asked for money. I was sick and tired, of being dissapointed, so am going overseas in a few weeks.
Im having my first transfer when I visit.
Its quick, easy, no let downs, and cost is similiar.
I just hope it works ))

Good luck to you

#48 Sally08

Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:44 PM

QUOTE (ruby-ruby @ 27/04/2012, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi I have been looking for an egg donor , in australia for a very long time, and quite a few people have offered but changed their mind at the last minute, even going through all the tests, and then ended up unable to be contacted. I have wasted lots of money this way.
I have also been asked for money. I was sick and tired, of being dissapointed, so am going overseas in a few weeks.
Im having my first transfer when I visit.
Its quick, easy, no let downs, and cost is similiar.
I just hope it works ))

Good luck to you


Hi Ruby,

We thought about the effort needed in finding a donor here in Australia and knew it would be emotionally draining, filled with many ifs and buts. So we decided that though it was going to cost us, it was better to save and go overseas.

Hope all goes well with the transfer. Treat the trip as a holiday and not stress out about it which I guess would not be helpful for the transfer.
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#49 scorpio2010

Posted 27 April 2012 - 08:43 PM

Hi

We were going to go to SA but we have found a local lady who is willing to help AND has done it before....So we are lucky!

The hard part is the 3 month cooling off period which we have 8 wks left of..... WAITING... IVF is always WAITING

Happy to hear you have had great results!

Cheers Scorpio

#50 LisaDD

Posted 07 May 2012 - 06:15 PM

Hi there. I'm in Perth WA and currently researching overseas egg donation. I've tried IVF for over 10 years with no luck and now just turned 40 so it's time to step it up (not give up!). My fs is not keen on egg donors so I need to find one that is prepared to work with an overseas fertility centre. Can anyone recommend a consultancy or fs in WA? Thanks.


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