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Law regarding security cameras in toilets?
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Posted 10 December 2009 - 04:50 PM
Just wondering if anyone here knows a bit about the law regarding cameras in public toilets. ?
I was with my 2 kids in a disabled loo at a shopping centre SOR and along the long hallway down to the toilets there are notices that because of recent anti-social behaviour the area will be under camera surveillance . It wasn't until I was washing my hands after the main event that I noticed there was one of those black dome thingys with the camera inside the cubicle, diagonally above the toilet !!
Are they allowed to do this?
Posted 10 December 2009 - 08:07 PM
I have no idea but thats an invasion of privacy!! Surely they cant do that in a toilet!!! What shops was it? Ill avoid that one!!
Posted 10 December 2009 - 09:03 PM
Oh my god really?? I'm positive they aren't allowed to do that!! In main toilets yes but nowhere where they can see into the cubicles.
Where was it?
Posted 10 December 2009 - 10:02 PM
I am sure that it wouldn't be filming in the actual cubical.
Posted 10 December 2009 - 10:09 PM
as far as i know, this isnt allowed, its an invasion of privacy, and could you just imagine being watched while doing your buisness????
Posted 10 December 2009 - 11:49 PM
If it is directly above the toilet then it would probably face into the space rather than straight down.
The fact that it is at Livingston does not surprise me and would have been my first guess for which centre it was at...
Posted 11 December 2009 - 04:22 AM
ewww I was used their toilets the other day. Thankfully I didnt see any cameras, but then again I didnt use the disabled ones either. Not surprised though after what happened there.
Posted 11 December 2009 - 11:44 AM
No it wasn't Livingston waters. I know what happened there was terrible though.
It was at that newish Woolworths one near the corner of Warton road and Amherst raod.
The disabled loo is a room by itself with loo and baby change all in one and the camera dome is IN the toilet cubicle, the only door goes straight out to the hallway. If you sit on the toilet and look up and left that is where it is.
I stood there squinting for a bit trying to see if there is a camera but the dome is dark so you can't make it out. It is revolting though, the thought of being filmed while on the loo.
I checked the normal ladies loo a bit further up the hallway and they don't have one in either the cubicles or the basin area so I suspect it was probably because of Livingston waters history but I still think it is really off.
I tried to find centre management to ask but kids were grizzly so gave up.
Posted 11 December 2009 - 04:37 PM
Ewwwww so it was diagonally across from the toilet and couldn't really face anywhere else?
Well, the Surveillance Devices Act 1988 (WA) prohibits the recording of private activities that either the recorder is not party to, or that the recorder is party to but the recording is occurring secretly. So either where the person being recorded doesn't know that you're there, or they know you're there but don't know that you're recording. In this instance, it would be the former since you haven't invited anyone else into the cubicle with you.
I'd say there's a possibility that it is just a big empty dome. Most security installations like that will include, say 10 cameras and 15 domes, the idea being that the unmanned domes will still act as a deterrent but at less cost than 15 cameras. It could also possibly be some kind of weird motion detector or house some sort of electrical connection they need access to from time to time?
There's also the possibility they consider it a multi-purpose room and not a 'toilet' per se? *shudder*
I'd be interested to hear what Centre Management has to say about it if/when you bring it up with them.
Posted 11 December 2009 - 05:40 PM
thats my regular shop, Ive just come back from there. I admit though Ive never used the disabled toilets there so hadnt looked.
As to the antisocial behaviour, yeah right, Im there every day for the shopping and PO box (and two friends work there) and there is NEVER anyone in the toilets or hanging around....thats just an excuse to stick cameras up!! Its one of the best shopping centres in that area. They need cameras at the one on Ranford road, near that Boardwalk estate...been there, and thats occasionally got youth around.
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