Jump to content

Law regarding security cameras in toilets?


  • Please log in to reply
10 replies to this topic

#1 Lackyband

Posted 10 December 2009 - 04:50 PM

Hi

Just wondering if anyone here knows a bit about the law regarding cameras in public toilets.  ?

I was with my 2 kids in a disabled loo at a shopping centre SOR  and along the long hallway down to the toilets there are notices that because of recent anti-social behaviour the area will be under camera surveillance .    It wasn't until I was washing my hands after the main event that I noticed there was one of those black dome thingys with the camera inside the cubicle,  diagonally above the toilet !!

Are they allowed to do this?  




#2 Guest_Cat©_*

Posted 10 December 2009 - 08:07 PM

ohmy.gif  I have no idea but thats an invasion of privacy!! Surely they cant do that in a toilet!!! What shops was it? Ill avoid that one!!

#3 Bazinga!

Posted 10 December 2009 - 08:49 PM

Is it Livingston Market Place in Canning Vale?







#4 risa80

Posted 10 December 2009 - 09:03 PM

Oh my god really?? I'm positive they aren't allowed to do that!! In main toilets yes but nowhere where they can see into the cubicles.

Where was it?

#5 Kafkaesque

Posted 10 December 2009 - 10:02 PM

I am sure that it wouldn't be filming in the actual cubical.

#6 tash1569

Posted 10 December 2009 - 10:09 PM

as far as i know, this isnt allowed, its an invasion of privacy, and could you just imagine being watched while doing your buisness????

#7 *Donna*

Posted 10 December 2009 - 11:49 PM


If it is directly above the toilet then it would probably face into the space rather than straight down.

The fact that it is at Livingston does not surprise me and would have been my first guess for which centre it was at...

#8 the4rugrats

Posted 11 December 2009 - 04:22 AM

ewww I was used their toilets the other day. Thankfully I didnt see any cameras, but then again I didnt use the disabled ones either.  Not surprised though after what happened there.

#9 Lackyband

Posted 11 December 2009 - 11:44 AM

Hi

No it wasn't Livingston waters.   I know what happened there was terrible though.

It was at that newish Woolworths one near the corner of Warton road and Amherst raod.

The disabled loo is a room by itself with loo and baby change all in one and the camera dome is IN the toilet cubicle,  the only door goes straight out to the hallway.    If you sit on the toilet and look up and left that is where it is.

I stood there squinting for a bit trying to see if there is a camera but the dome is dark so you can't make it out.    It is revolting though,  the thought of being filmed while on the loo.

I checked the normal ladies loo a bit further up the hallway and they don't  have one in either the cubicles or the basin area so I suspect it was probably because of Livingston waters history but I still think it is really off.

I tried to find centre management to ask but kids were grizzly so gave up.




#10 lori~lee

Posted 11 December 2009 - 04:37 PM

Ewwwww so it was diagonally across from the toilet and couldn't really face anywhere else?

Well, the Surveillance Devices Act 1988 (WA) prohibits the recording of private activities that either the recorder is not party to, or that the recorder is party to but the recording is occurring secretly. So either where the person being recorded doesn't know that you're there, or they know you're there but don't know that you're recording. In this instance, it would be the former since you haven't invited anyone else into the cubicle with you.

I'd say there's a possibility that it is just a big empty dome. Most security installations like that will include, say 10 cameras and 15 domes, the idea being that the unmanned domes will still act as a deterrent but at less cost than 15 cameras. It could also possibly be some kind of weird motion detector or house some sort of electrical connection they need access to from time to time?

There's also the possibility they consider it a multi-purpose room and not a 'toilet' per se? *shudder*

I'd be interested to hear what Centre Management has to say about it if/when you bring it up with them.







#11 Guest_Cat©_*

Posted 11 December 2009 - 05:40 PM

ohmy.gif   thats my regular shop, Ive just come back from there. I admit though Ive never used the disabled toilets there so hadnt looked.

As to the antisocial behaviour, yeah right, Im there every day for the shopping and PO box (and two friends work there) and there is NEVER anyone in the toilets or hanging around....thats just an excuse to stick cameras up!! Its one of the best shopping centres in that area. They need cameras at the one on Ranford road, near that Boardwalk estate...been there, and thats occasionally got youth around.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Share the little things that make you smile

We're giving away a Mountain Buggy nano, the ultimate travel stroller - and here are some of the great entries so far.

Toddler pleads for return of "stolen" nose

A two-year-old's reaction to a game of "got your nose" shows it doesn't take much to make a toddler cry.

The 15 photos new parents share (and five they don't)

From the first scan photo to the baby covered in cake at their first birthday party, there are 15 photos most parents seem to share - and some they don't.

Doctor sings first Happy Birthday to newborns

His job is to deliver babies, but this US obstetrician also has a unique way of celebrating the miracle of life.

Breastfeeding friendly café goes viral

A photo of a breastfeeding-friendly sign in a cafe has been posted to Facebook and shared by hundreds of mums around the world.

First look at the Bugaboo Bee3

The newest Bugaboo Bee ? the Bee3 ? offers a variety of improved features, including a much asked-for bassinet and a rainbow of colour combinations.

Childcare costs, not paid leave, the real issue for parents

Given the choice between maintaining their wage for six months to have a child, or having a reduced rate of pay for a time but a better deal on childcare when returning to work, there are no odds on what most working parents would choose.

Win a Mountain Buggy nano

We?re giving away the new Mountain Buggy Nano - the lightweight travel buggy! So show us the little things that make you smile for your chance to win.

We lost three babies in two years

Our first pregnancy ended the way we all expected it to - with a healthy, happy baby in our arms. What a true blessing he was, for we were not to know the heartache we were about endure.

Family turned back from doomed flight MH17

'There must have been someone watching over us and saying, 'You must not get on that flight,' says mother who narrowly avoided boarding the Malaysian Airlines flight which exploded in mid-air over the Ukraine last night.

The myths and facts about "normal" breastfeeding

When it comes to successful breastfeeding, there is a wide variety to what is "normal", according to new research.

Adorable Skeanie loafers for kids

Your little toddler or preschooler can now get their nautical on with a new range of classic loafers by Australian show brand Skeanie.

My baby is hypermobile

For months, I have been telling myself not to worry that Jasmin isn't crawling or walking. This week I heard the term hypermobile for the first time.

When you don?t bond with your baby

They say that there is no bond greater than the bond between a mother and her child. But for some women, the mother-baby bond takes more time and effort to develop.

Yumi Stynes: Having a baby after a 10-year break

After a long break, Yumi Stynes gets a reminder of the pain - and the pleasure - of giving birth.

Grieving father asks for help to Photoshop his daughter's image

When Nathan Steffel's daughter Sophia died from a liver condition at just 6 weeks old, he reached out for someone to create a beautiful image of his little girl.

Raising kids in a 'low media' home

Can you imagine a life without TV or computers? Some parents are opting for a low-tech, screen-free life for their kids.

Download now: Essential Kids Activity Finder app

Got bored kids? Quickly find the best activities for kids wherever you are in Australia with the Essential Kids app.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Win a Mountain Buggy nano

We?re giving away the new Mountain Buggy Nano - the lightweight travel buggy! So show us the little things that make you smile for your chance to win.

Be careful what you say, your baby is listening

The importance of speaking to your baby even if they are not old enough to answer back has been highlighted by new research.

The beautiful moment a baby was born at the side of a road

It's not where she expected to give birth, but mum Corrine Cinatl is delighted that her daughter's roadside arrival was captured in a series of beautiful photos.

Doctor sings first Happy Birthday to newborns

His job is to deliver babies, but this US obstetrician also has a unique way of celebrating the miracle of life.

The Nappy Collective starts new drive

It's that time of year when the dedicated volunteers at The Nappy Collective do their bit to help out mums and children in need - and they need your help.

Baby shower cake wrecks

From misshapen cake babies to questionable text, from odd colour choices to internal organ recreation, these are the baby shower cakes that taste forgot.

Photographer captures the beauty of adoption

The love of a family is usually tough to capture on camera. This is an exception.

Pregnancy progression photo ideas

Want to record your pregnancy as your belly grows? Here are some creative, fun ideas for photo shoots along the way.

The myths and facts about "normal" breastfeeding

When it comes to successful breastfeeding, there is a wide variety to what is "normal", according to new research.

Tin can craft and DIY ideas

Got a few old formula, Milo or coffee cans around the house? Use these fantastic upcycling ideas to create items for around the house and yard.

Dads meet their newborn for the first time

Emotional photos of two fathers meeting their newborn son have resonated with viewers worldwide, attracting thousands of Facebook likes and shares.

Skin safety isn't just a summer worry

Lax about the slip slop slap with your kids as weather turns cooler? Here's a reminder as to why we have to remain vigilant for our children?s future health.

Personalised baby gifts

We've scoured the internet to find gorgeous personalised keepsakes and nursery decor to record baby name and dates. They make great gifts for christenings, name days and birthdays! (All prices in AU.)

Creative sleeping baby photoshoots

See how some parents and photographers have captured sleeping babies in unusual positions and using different props.

DIY kitchen and food hacks

DIY your way to a better kitchen and make cooking easier with our clever hacks. (Some content reproduced with permission from mashable.com.)

Winter warmers for babies and toddlers

Your baby or toddler will be nice and snug in these beautiful and fun winter pieces. Most are hand-made or knitted, and they're all designed to keep your little one toastie - and adorable!

 

Mind, body, beauty, life

Making time for me

We look at your wellbeing, covering health, relationships, beauty and fashion, mind and body.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.