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#1 pootle*posie*perkin

Posted 07 January 2009 - 11:52 AM

DD had her follow up with the paed this morning and has gained 500g in 2 weeks...great!  She is back on the 10th percentile after having 100mls of soy formula a night.

Now, she has been extremely unsettled since having it and has eczema on her eyelids.  She also reacted to dairy through breastmilk when I was eating it.

The paed did not have authority to write a script for Elecare, apparently has to be done by an allergist or a paediatric gastro something or other.  He suggested I call RPA who my son is under and DD is booked to see in April to find out could she have the Vanilla Elecare as I have loads left but they are on holiday until 15th Jan sad.gif

I am so not happy giving her the soy but she obviously needs something from the weight gain since having it.

Does anyone know if she can have the vanilla Elecare and how much to give her?  It says from 1 year on the can but DS had it at 9 months, they just amended the scoops.

He prescribed losec to take with the Zantac she already has but I think its the soy causing the extra unsettledness as she was fine on zantac until the soy milk came along 2 weeks ago.

Thanks.

#2 !!!

Posted 07 January 2009 - 11:59 AM

From memory the vanilla flavour is for over 12months, it has more sugar and crap in it. DS was on unflavoured elecare from 6-12 months. Due to a mix up with the chemist we did end up with one batch of vanilla when he was 11 months old and had it without any reaction, but there's a big difference between 3 months and 11 months. Try ringing the consumer hotline on the tin and ask the manufacturer if it's ok for her to have or a pharmacist (the actual pharmacist, not just a staff member).

My GP wrote the script without any hassles.

#3 pootle*posie*perkin

Posted 07 January 2009 - 12:01 PM

Thanks.  Apparently the rules changed last year.  He could write a script for Neocate but not Elecare sad.gif

#4 Guest_~Karla~_*

Posted 07 January 2009 - 12:05 PM

The vanilla one is for children over 12 months only.  Or so it says on the tins at least.....

Why didn't he write you a script for Neocate?  Surely that would be the best thing to do for now....

Edited by ~Karla~, 07 January 2009 - 12:05 PM.


#5 Danielle20

Posted 07 January 2009 - 12:07 PM

u can actually get elecare  without prescription just call around and see which chemist has it. if not i can buy it and send it to you.

#6 pootle*posie*perkin

Posted 07 January 2009 - 12:26 PM

Karla, He would write me a script for neocate but I already tried DD with that as I got some from my SIL but she wouldn't take it.

Danielle, I suppose I could get a tin to keep me going until RPA open next week.  Thanks for the offer but I am sure a chemist round here will have it or will get it by tomorrow anyway.

#7 Guest_~Karla~_*

Posted 07 January 2009 - 12:42 PM

Oh, Ok.  What about mixing it with the soy formula/EBM to get her used to the taste?

Otherwise, are you in Bris?  I have half a tin I opened on the 22/12 that you could have.....  My boys can't tolerate it....

#8 pootle*posie*perkin

Posted 07 January 2009 - 12:50 PM

Thanks karla.  I am in Sydney but thanks for the offer!  

I just spoke the the Elecare helpline and they told me the dilution for a younger baby but did say it was the flavourings that make them recommend it for an older baby as its against food standards to have flavourings for less than 1 year olds food.

I gave the box of Neocate back to SIL but I could go and get it if I have no joy with the Elecare.  I just left a message for the dietician so hopefully someone will call me back.

Its always they same, they get sick on weekends when the DR is closed, need something when christmas hols are on!

#9 imagine22

Posted 07 January 2009 - 01:46 PM

Yes I was also told its exactly the same formulation + vanilla flavour  - and thats only becasue they legally cant flavour the under 12 mths one.

the only reason the dilution is different is because it is the 12 mth older dilution - just follow the under 12mths dilution amounts (from the regular tins).

May be hard to get them back to unflavoured later though original.gif

#10 pootle*posie*perkin

Posted 07 January 2009 - 02:07 PM

Thanks imagine.  She told me the dilution is 1 scoop in 60 mls which I now remember from DS2.  I am scared to give her the vanilla one for that reason too, she would never take anything else again haha

#11 Guest_~Karla~_*

Posted 07 January 2009 - 02:09 PM

Damn.  I'm just going to have to chuck it out, so thought it may have come in handy for you!

QUOTE
Yes I was also told its exactly the same formulation + vanilla flavour - and thats only becasue they legally cant flavour the under 12 mths one.

That's strange, cos my twins can't handle the plain one at all, but were tolerating the Vanilla one (not anymore though cry1.gif ).  But they are strange.... wacko.gif

#12 pootle*posie*perkin

Posted 07 January 2009 - 05:23 PM

Oh karla, I hope you can find something that they can tolerate.

Update from me.  RPA are a godsend.  They called me back.  They advised getting the neocate back from my SIL and persisting with it until DD takes it, even mixing icing sugar in it to taste.  Then, if I noticed she is more settled and the eyelid eczema goes then I can get a script for it from my paed which he has agreed to do.

Is neocate really awful compared to elecare?

The lady said the Vanilla elecare would be fine short term but if she does take it I will run out before I see them in April so will have no script and will be back to square one so best to persist with the neocate which I can get a script for from the paed.

Phew, what a day.  Oh and I have to cut soy out of my diet even though it was only one serve a day.  I'll be eating nothing soon  cry1.gif Oh well, if it helps her.

Thanks everyone

#13 imagine22

Posted 07 January 2009 - 05:56 PM

Its hard work isnt it? Glad you have a plan now original.gif

My allergy specialist was about to write a script for neocate and stopped saying "no I wont be so cruel, Ill make it elecare which is much kinder in taste!" she was joking but I think the consensus is is it does taste a lot better... but i guess its really its whatever you can get them to take without reacting original.gif

I got a free sample (1 full tin) of elecare from my allergy specialist and 2 sample tins from DD1's paediatrician (even though its DD2 who its for and she wasnt his patient) so maybe if you call around one would take pity and give you a sample original.gif

Edited by imagine22, 07 January 2009 - 05:57 PM.


#14 Guest_~Karla~_*

Posted 07 January 2009 - 08:52 PM

QUOTE
Is neocate really awful compared to elecare?


If the smell is anything to go by, yes!

The Neocate book I got says to add golden syrup if you need to sweeten it....  Oh, and it also suggests trying a supply line if you are breastfeeding in combination.....  That might be worth a thought for you, seeing as your DD is only really on it for the extra calories isn't she?

Oh, and thanks.  We were meant to be back in hospital this week but all have an awful cold, so are being admitted on Monday for 2 weeks....  Hopefully this time we'll get a solution and/or answer.

#15 neen238

Posted 07 January 2009 - 09:12 PM

DD was 11mths when RPA prescribed Elecare Vanilla (1 scoop in 60ml). They said younger babies are better with the plain one, but at 11mths she had already developed a range of tastes, and they were worried she wouldn't like the plain one.
Even with the vanilla flavour, the dietitian suggested adding icing sugar at the start to wean her on to it (I had been BF until then). It smells very sweet anyway, so I didn't bother with the icing sugar, and she liked it as is.




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