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#1 onlymeagain

Posted 19 June 2008 - 05:38 PM

Do you consider these types of dogs dangerous?

I am curious because I have 3 and I amazed at the amount of people that tell me they are dangerous dogs.  Mine are the biggest sooks I have ever met - they love human contact and generally being involved in the day to day happenings of our house.  They are absolutely fantastic with my 4yo ds.

I suppose I just feel like they get a bad rap.  I don't think that a particular breed is dangerous, it is the owner that is.  

Just wondering how others feel.

Edited by onlymeagain, 19 June 2008 - 05:50 PM.


#2 ~Flick~

Posted 19 June 2008 - 05:47 PM

Every staffy I have ever come across has been the most beautiful loving (and sooky) dog. I love them. They are fantastic with kids.
I don't have one, but if we ever got another dog, it would be a staffy.

I think sometimes people confuse them with pit bull terriers.

#3 Ms*Congeniality

Posted 19 June 2008 - 05:51 PM

Nope not dangerous to people, even young children. Actually recommended as a very good dog for small children. However they are dangerous to other dogs, as that is originally what they were bred for - dog fights.

My brother's own staffy is gorgeous but has attacked and killed another small dog that was off it's lead on the beach. Just something to bear in mind.

#4 honeybubby

Posted 19 June 2008 - 05:57 PM

Dogs are only dangerous if they have been neglected and trained to do wrong. We have a pitbull cross cattle dog with everything else in between and she so timid. And a rotty too and he just wants a big cuddle.

#5 onlymeagain

Posted 19 June 2008 - 05:58 PM

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However they are dangerous to other dogs, as that is originally what they were bred for - dog fights.


Yes they were bred for dog fighting - but I think if you socialise a dog correctly you can avoid these problems.

I was walking mine the other day and a dog come tearing out of a garage right up to my lot and was barking and snarling, my dogs didn't even register - they just wanted to play.  The owner came running out screaming and I said "My dogs will not hurt your dog, but I think you need to restrain him as he seems to be the untrustworthy one".  She panicked just because of the look of my dogs ( you know the big vicious staffy smile  laughing2.gif ).

#6 NurseGladys

Posted 19 June 2008 - 06:02 PM

We got our Staffy because they are renowned for being good with kids - people always think he is a pit bull (he is black and I have NEVER seen a black pit bull) and they seem scared of him.

He is placid, loving and snuggly, we  wub.gif him!!!

#7 idunno

Posted 19 June 2008 - 06:02 PM

People commonly confuse them with Pit Bull Terriers - NOT the same thing at all.

Our dog is Staffy x (Lhasa Apso - go figure) and is the biggest sook, loves our kids and has never come anywhere near aggression.  He loooooves other dogs too, not at all aggressive there either.

#8 ~muddleheaded-wombat~

Posted 19 June 2008 - 06:03 PM

I really think it depends on how each dog is raised.

I love staffy's they are my fav breed and I cant wait until I can have one of my own...

Staffy's really are loving dogs and are often sooks!

We have a Lab X Staffy and he really is a great dog.

Edited by ~muddleheaded-wombat~, 19 June 2008 - 06:04 PM.


#9 PurpleAthame

Posted 19 June 2008 - 06:07 PM

I Have a staffy x bull terrier breed (with a bit of ridgeback in him too)
He is the most nicest dog, most people are afraid of him, dont see how because he is so georgeous.
He is great with other dogs, great with our daughter(very very patient dog)

Good thing to have, if we get broken into again, he scared off the last people who broke into my old place lol.

#10 mum2brodie

Posted 19 June 2008 - 06:10 PM

I am on to my fourth Staffy (over 18 years) and he is a goose/clown/a nannie/and emotionally needy puppy much like my 4 yr old DS. original.gif lol but we love him and he is only 8mths old so I will let him off.

However, I do watch this one like a hawk and even before having my DS I would never agree to leave a child and dog together.  He is a strong dog and tends to hip and shoulder DS when he wants a pat and is still at that kind of stupid stage and sometimes he has kind of nipped at DS socks (with foot attached).

I had my face ripped apart by the neighbours German shepherd when I was 3 years old.  So as tough and a ball of muscle that Staffords  are I don't actually fear these dogs.  I took 2 years to research the perfect dog 18 years ago ( I was a teenager and my brother was 5 years old at the time) and Staffords came up always at one of the top 10 family pets.  

I have never ever had problems other than one did kill a small white fluffy dog that kept getting into our back yard. However, the vet did say there was no teeth marks on the white fluffy dog and most likely died from fear of having two Staffords looking at it.

I have had the odd uneducated comments by people over the years but like all pets it comes down 90% to the way they are treated.

So no I don't think they are a dangerous dog. But it does sh*t me when you see a child has been attacked by a dog and they say its a Staffordshire cross and when you see a picture of it in the newspaper the dog looks nothing like a staffordshire.

#11 onlymeagain

Posted 19 June 2008 - 06:12 PM

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However they are dangerous to other dogs, as that is originally what they were bred for - dog fights.


We got robbed over easter and the most the robbers got would have been a lick  ohmy.gif

#12 Ruf~Feral~es

Posted 19 June 2008 - 06:16 PM

As others have said, socialisation plays a huge part.  I've only met lovely staffys too.  And have also owned a doberman and rotty, both loved people and were well trained and socialised.

I would still never leave kids alone with any dog though. Dogs are like pools, great fun, but kids should NEVER be unsupervised.  (Often to protect the dog from the child, IMO wink.gif )

#13 Mum2NE1

Posted 19 June 2008 - 06:25 PM

I don't consider any of the common dog breeds dangerous, owners on the other hand, there are plenty of dangerous owners around.

We had the sweetest most loving amstaff at the clinic I work at last week, everyone fell in love with her. It's funny how it's totally unacceptable to be racist with people yet perfectly fine & accepted to do with animals.

#14 tykita

Posted 19 June 2008 - 06:33 PM

No i dont think they are dangerous i have had staffies for the past 13 years.
I to think it has to do with the way the dog is brought up.
Desiree

#15 Princesspink

Posted 19 June 2008 - 06:35 PM

Well you have 3, why do you need us to tell you if they're dangerous or not?

#16 onlymeagain

Posted 19 June 2008 - 06:41 PM

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Well you have 3, why do you need us to tell you if they're dangerous or not?


Ummmmm no I don't need you to tell me - twit...

My question was do OTHER people think it because I don't...

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But it does sh*t me when you see a child has been attacked by a dog and they say its a Staffordshire cross and when you see a picture of it in the newspaper the dog looks nothing like a staffordshire.


Exactly my gripe!

Hi Felicity, it's Robyn laughing2.gif

#17 custardtart

Posted 19 June 2008 - 06:51 PM

Staffys are awesome. I've had a lot to do with 'dangerous breeds' over the years, our last dog was a dingo x kelpie, he was so loyal and gentle that if he could speak I would have left him babysitting the kids!

No, I don't think Staffys are dangerous dogs at all, but they do bear a close resemblance (to the casual eye) to other breeds that I wouldn't touch with a bargepole.

Kerrie

#18 ~Flick~

Posted 19 June 2008 - 06:53 PM

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Well you have 3, why do you need us to tell you if they're dangerous or not?
And your point is??????  wacko.gif

#19 lazyrose74

Posted 19 June 2008 - 08:05 PM

I think that any dog can be dangerous and mostly because of the way they've been brought up and their owners.
I love staffys!

#20 nirea

Posted 19 June 2008 - 09:19 PM

wub.gif My Staffy, she wouldn't hurt a fly. She is my 2nd- my 1st disappeared while swimming at the beach  cry1.gif
Wish this one wasn't such an escape artist, but then with 3 kids sometimes I wish I could crawl under the fence & run free for a few hours too.  grin.gif
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I think that any dog can be dangerous and mostly because of the way they've been brought up and their owners.
-what she said biggrin.gif

Edited by nirea, 19 June 2008 - 09:20 PM.


#21 feyth06

Posted 19 June 2008 - 09:25 PM

In-laws had a staffy, she was so cute, was a great dog and wouldn't hurt a fly... and then she bit the neighbours cat that had to be put down. No one saw what happened but it was definitely out of her character. Overall though I don't think they're dangerous.

#22 ~*InfiniteLoop*~

Posted 19 June 2008 - 09:46 PM

We have one. She is a real ditzy dog, very, very flirty and just loooooves kids and people in general.  She has never growled at any of my children, and certainly never bitten. When things get too much for her (5 kids can be overwhelming sometimes LOL) she will nick off to a quiet spot.

She was a bit of a naughty one for jumping the fence. Even when we replaced it with a 1.8 metre one, she still managed to scrabble over it, and deeply cut her foot in the process  ohmy.gif
She's too fat to get over now, but I still occasionally hear the "bang" when she tries  rolleyes.gif

#23 *Foggy*

Posted 19 June 2008 - 10:10 PM

I'm a dog lover from wayyy back and I've owned a variety of breeds. No Staffys yet - hopefully one day!

As a lover of all breeds, I wanted to offer my opinion. Truly hope I don't offend anyone or their beloved canine mates.

I honestly believe that even the most loving dog is capable of 'turning', and becoming violent - especially if frightened or threatened. I think dog owners would have to be naïve not to accept this.

YES - your dog might be a sook when approached by you, your childen, friendly strangers etc. - but have you ever witnessed your dog under threat? Do you truly know how he or she will react? Perhaps you do... but there are some dog owners for whom this situation hasn't arisen, and they may be surprised to see what would really occur when it does.

Dogs descended from wolves, and I believe that when the 'fight or flight' response is required, they'll rely on their wild animal instincts. What else can they do?


Why certain breeds might get a bad wrap would come down to the strength and capability of breeds.

For what it's worth, I owned two Corgies and one West Highland White Terrier who were what I would term 'less trustworthy' and at times impatient with children. Much moreso than larger breeds such as the German Shepherd and Bull Terrier I had. I'd be a bit hesitant to recommend Corgies for families with very small children; but I'll bet you never heard of people campaigning against Corgies being sold as pets. I guess it's because a corgie's jaw just isn't strong enough to cause serious damage to an adult or anything larger than a tiny child.

Dogs with strong torsos and jaws, on the other hand...

And yes, I think those who don't know a lot about dogs get the Staffordshire Bull Terrier commonly confused with the Pit Bull Terrier.

I also totally agree with Ruffles about aways supervising play with dogs and kids... Especially the bits about needing to protect the dogs from the kids wink.gif

... But don't you just love it when they sit patiently through the ear and tailpulling until someone jumps in to save them...? wub.gif wub.gif

- Foggy

Edited by *Foggy*, 19 June 2008 - 10:12 PM.


#24 lolipop

Posted 19 June 2008 - 10:20 PM

Im not really a dog person so hope I dont offend anyone but I think they certainly look dangerous.  But then I wouldnt have any dog around my kids - although with a dog loving husband and two boys Im not sure how long I can maintain the status quo.

#25 Trevie

Posted 19 June 2008 - 10:39 PM

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Every staffy I have ever come across has been the most beautiful loving (and sooky) dog. I love them. They are fantastic with kids.
I don't have one, but if we ever got another dog, it would be a staffy.

I think sometimes people confuse them with pit bull terriers.


Ditto




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