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Hypotonic-Hyporesponsive Episode after 8 wk vaccinations

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#1 jed31

Posted 10 April 2008 - 07:15 AM

Hi ladies,

We got our 8 week son vaccinated on the weekend and he immediately went limp, pale, blue around the lips, sweaty, shaky and non-responsive.  We were absolutely beside ourselves and were told by our doctor that he had had a rare reaction to the Pertussis vaccination called a 'Hypotonic-Hyporesponsive Episode'.  I have read that there is a link with children reacting this way and developing epilepsy or autism later in life and would like to hear from other mum's whose baby's had a similar reaction.  Needless to say we are very hesitant to continue with his vaccinations!!!


#2 Butterscotch

Posted 10 April 2008 - 10:33 AM

Oh my Lord!  How FRIGHTENING!!! sad.gif  Can't offer a single piece of advice, but was horrified to read what you have just been through sad.gif

#3 Guest_Cat©_*

Posted 10 April 2008 - 10:42 AM


Edited by Cat©, 14 April 2010 - 04:16 PM.

#4 Mamabug

Posted 10 April 2008 - 11:10 AM

Okay, well this thread has just terrified me. DS went into what I have refered to as a deep sleep immediately after his 8wk vaccination.

His breathing was slow and shallow and he was limp as. He didn't respond to gentle shaking, so we took him straight to the nurse who tried running her finger along the bottom of his foot. That didn't initially work, so she pinched him a couple of times and he finally startled.

I have just put it down to him having a slight shock reaction to the trauma of the injection - you know how drained you feel after an adrenaline rush? And he needed a power snooze.

Now I am going to torment myself by researching this further. He has been fine after his subsequent immunisations.

#5 aesthetica

Posted 10 April 2008 - 11:17 AM

Oh my god, you poor thing, what a terrifying thing for you to go through!!  I hope your DS has recovered and is back to his old self, the poor little darling.  Chances are he will be fine, but I would definitely keep a close eye on him (which I am sure you are doing anyway!).

I would also definitely be reporting the reaction, and speaking long and hard to your doctors about whether to continue further vaccinations, as well as doing a lot of research yourself.  A child's reactions tend to get worse with each needle . . .

If you do decide you will continue his vaccinations, I would strongly advise to DELAY them as long as possible to give his immune system time to strengthen.  In Japan they only START the vaccination schedule at 2 years (I think?) -- IMO it is ludicrous that we start it here from birth.

I hope your little one is okay.  hands.gif

#6 upup

Posted 10 April 2008 - 11:21 AM

Oh I feel so sad for you all, it must be such a scary thing to go through. These vaccines seem to be able to really cause some problems.

You should report the reaction to the vaccine reaction hotline, I am unsure of the number if anyone could help out with that it would be great.

There is a great supportive threat in the natural therapies area with lots of information regarding vaccinations.

There are also some natropaths and homeopaths that work with children and adults to reverse the effects of vaccines. Some have had great results treating autism. Just a thought if you felt the kids had suffered long term from the vaccines.

Good luck and I pray that your children are ok.

#7 jed31

Posted 10 April 2008 - 01:46 PM

Thanks for your replies and support ladies - it really is so awful to see your little one suffer like that because of something you've done (even if it is done out of love and just trying to do the right thing).  I am in the process of reporting his reaction to the 'adverse drug reaction advisory committee' and doubt that I will continue with any further vaccinations.


#8 fairymagic

Posted 10 April 2008 - 01:56 PM

I too am sorry for your little boy and I too would probably be talking to a doctor before considering more immunisation however, as this is not the anti-immunisation forum, I wanted to just say that I whole heartedly agree with immunising our children. Of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinion about this but I would never forgive myself if one of my children developed one on the illnesses I could immunise and protect them from, and then went on to develop one of the complications of this illness.  I also wonder in Japan what their incidence of Whooping Cough is? So many babies end up hospitalised each year with this horrible illness, many of them because they were too young to be immunised and had been exposed or because they hadn't yet been immunised. I know there is a lot of anti-immunisation information out there and my only suggestion would be to make sure you look at the information relating to Australian Immunisations and not the American ones. Good luck.

#9 Guest_Cat©_*

Posted 10 April 2008 - 02:05 PM

rolleyes.gif clh03  

no, this isnt an antivaccination forum or thread and jed31 was just sharing what happened to her son, so I guess that means theres no need for you to come in a pedal pro immunisation is there?  wacko.gif

#10 aesthetica

Posted 10 April 2008 - 05:01 PM

I also wonder in Japan what their incidence of Whooping Cough is?

Actually, for your information, after Japan raised the vaccination minimum age to 2 (in 1975) their infant mortality rate dropped dramatically and now they have the lowest overall infant mortality in the world.  So there goes your theory.  wacko.gif

Jed31 - good luck with it all. FWIW, I wouldn't continue with them either.

#11 LovingMyGirls

Posted 11 April 2008 - 12:27 PM

This is a horrifying story, I really feel for you and hands.gif that your little boy is alright.

As much as doctors tell you that these things are so rare not to worry about it, just vaccinate, it does happen.  I applaud you for ensuring that it is properly reported because I strongly believe that a lot of incidents relating to vaccinations do go unreported (although perhaps not reactions as serious as this).

My DD1 had her vaccinations up to 6 months, I had underlying reservations but never really thought about it to be honest because it is supposed to be just one of those things you just do and TBH I didn't really know you were allowed to not have them done if you didn't want to.   After further research and lots of consideration she has not had the MMR or any subsequent vaccinations at this stage.

This time around with DD2 I elected not to give her Hep B at birth.  She is now 6 weeks and leading up to the dreaded needles (well I dread them).  I am considering delaying them for her to give her immunity a bit more of a chance to develop.

I think if I was in your situation I certainly wouldn't be administering any more vaccinations.  With a history of reacting you have to weigh up if the risks outweigh the benefits.

Good luck OP, thinking of you.

Edited by LovingMyGirls, 11 April 2008 - 12:29 PM.

#12 6kidsmom

Posted 12 April 2012 - 01:45 PM

Hi my 8 wk old baby had a HHE reaction, he went stiff and then stopped breathing, this was in the evening, he was in Hosp for 2 nights but of course didnt have another episode, has any other parents had their babies go thru a similar thing.

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