Jump to content

Emla Cream, has anyone used it before a spinal/epi?


  • Please log in to reply
21 replies to this topic

#1 cazbir

Posted 23 October 2007 - 04:20 PM

Just wondering if anyone has used Emla cream on there lower back before a spinal or epi, for a planned C/S?  as i REALLY need numbness for my spinal in Dec, and just wondering if you think i would be allowed to do it?
Anyone used it and has it numbed the area so you didn't feel the spinal?

Thanks

#2 Boombox

Posted 23 October 2007 - 04:32 PM

'm not too sure- but I'd imagine it wouldn't do a whole lot. It only numbs the superficial layer where as a spinal/epidural goes a whole lot deeper. The anaethatist inject local anaesthetic before using the bigger needle. I guess the emla might help with a bit of the local injection- but not much as it (the local) would also go deeper than the emla would numb. You'd also have to know just where they planned on putting it as I think there are a couple of vertebrae they can go between- you'd need a large area of emla to cover it all.

Maybe try some focussing/meditation type techniques to do while they put the epidural in.

BTW- just saw you're having a spinal, that is a VERY fine needle and really shouldn't hurt too much- good luck.

#3 Battingeyelashes

Posted 23 October 2007 - 04:36 PM

They can probably give you a local if you are worried about the pain, but to be honest, it isn't at all painful. It's uncomfortable in that you need to lean forward, but certainly no pain.

#4 cazbir

Posted 23 October 2007 - 04:40 PM

Thanks for the replies. I have had an Epi before during my first C/S but that was during labour and had an emergency one.
2nd was a GA as i was TOO scared and was all shaky to have the spinal blush.gif
Its like local that hurts and stings, not the actual spinal i am worried about as the local numbs it, but it just freaks me out abit blush.gif

#5 Guest_KLJCS_*

Posted 23 October 2007 - 05:03 PM

With my first spinal I never felt it as the labor pains were worse. My last one (12 weeks ago), hurt less than the IV drip in my hand.

#6 Guest_dixiebelle_*

Posted 23 October 2007 - 05:06 PM

The local is the worst bit, isn't it! But without it, the rest of the procedure would probably by impossible, as you'd be moving from the pain!

I am not sure if the anaesthetist would even like you using Emla on there, so ask them first... they do a lot of prep on that area beforehand to make it a sterile procedure, but surely that wouldn't remove the superficial effect the Emla has had??? Best bet, talk to your anaesthetist before if you can, or ask the midwives to find out for you...

Good luck... I would much, much prefer a Spinal (with morphine in it, thank you!) than post-op pain after a General..

#7 Battingeyelashes

Posted 23 October 2007 - 05:15 PM

It's a scary process, isnt' it? Needles and backs just seem so wrong!

I had local cream put on my hand for the drip when I had my hernia op last year. There would be no reason they couldn't put that on your back.

I was fine when they put the spinal in, then I got the shakes, I shook for about 5 hours. It was really quite strange actually.


#8 CrispyEm

Posted 24 October 2007 - 08:51 AM

Hi there! I'm not saying you COULDN'T use it, but it would have to be the anaesthetist putting it on at least 30mins before your caesar (because they are the one doing the procedure, and they will be picking the precise spot for the spinal / epidural).

If you have enough time before your birth, have you thought about having a bit of counseling- maybe some hypnosis? about your needle phobia? It seems such a shame to have to have a general simply because of your fears.

All the best.  original.gif

#9 cazbir

Posted 24 October 2007 - 01:02 PM

Thanks for all your  replies. i am thinking using it might be silly.
I will be talking to the anaesthetist before the actual day.
Just nervous i guess blush.gif

#10 3XY

Posted 27 October 2007 - 10:26 PM

Yes, I had it put on by the anaesthetist about 1.5 hours prior to the caesar. Didn't even ask for it, had it on my hand for the IV as well, which worked perfectly. Still felt the sting of the local in my back as it only does work quite superficially. You need it on for at least 1 hour, and up to 2 hours for maximum effect. Worth asking for if you want it.

#11 tiga

Posted 29 October 2007 - 04:41 PM

Yes, I used it, asked my anaesthetist if I could and he told me how to work out where it would go. Still felt a little bit but it made a huge change in my mental state, juat having it on there. Put it on my hand too. i would recommend it

#12 Persnickety_

Posted 29 October 2007 - 04:43 PM

I had a local before my spinal, I just thought everyone got one.

#13 jadeh

Posted 29 October 2007 - 06:25 PM

RyHalandKade - everyone gets a local - the op wants this for the local.

I say the worst they can say is no. I would ask sooner rather than later to put your fears at rest. I doubt that they are going to say no if you explain why.

#14 cazbir

Posted 29 October 2007 - 06:39 PM

Thanks again original.gif  I am only seeing my GP atm for pregnancy care till my 34 weeks hospital appointment, when i booked into the hospital at 12 weeks i told them of my fear and how with my last Birth i HAD to have a GA, i don't want another GA, and i WILL have the spinal, will chat to the anaesthetist weeks beforehand

#15 Persnickety_

Posted 29 October 2007 - 06:44 PM

Oh sorry I should read properly, I didn't even feel my local because I was too nervous laugh.gif

#16 lillipani

Posted 29 October 2007 - 07:03 PM

yep i used it when i had my spinal. worked a treat! original.gif

#17 cazbir

Posted 29 October 2007 - 07:30 PM

Oh cool, i will certainly be asking them about it wink.gif

#18 firstxmum05

Posted 31 October 2007 - 08:46 AM

Hi,

My anaesthetist applied the Emla patches on both my hand & in my lower back an hour prior to my C-Section but to tell you the truth I don't think they made a difference at all.

original.gif Sharon

#19 grace1414

Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:25 AM

I got an epi when I had a spot on my back that they had to surgically remove. emla cream is worth it, ull feel the needle, but no poke, so no u don't really feel anything. when I have my baby im getting an epi straight away using emla, its really god sent. original.gif

#20 IsolaBella

Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:13 PM

I had Elma recently for a cannula going in..... Not really impressed with it TBH.



#21 gasgirl

Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:19 PM

I'm answering as an anaesthetist and as a person who has had an epidural.
Personally I wouldnt be happy with EMLA for a spinal - I would have concerns about adequate skin prep and sterility and also it going in the right place. Also EMLA will only numb the skin and not deeper tissues so a local injection would still be needed.
For a spinal -  the size of the spinal needle is so small it is smaller than the local needle.
I suggest if its an elective CS to talk to your anesthetist a few days prior rather than getting any more scared and apprehensive,we are very nice approachable people but appreciate prior warning if a pt has particular concerns.

#22 cazbir

Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:10 PM

Wow This is my old old thread lol. Unfortunately for that Birth i had a GA as My daughter was Stillborn sad.gif  But i did have a Miracle a yr later and i was brave and i didn't even bother using emla. The only time i have used emla is when i got my big butterfly Tattoo for all of my 4 Children original.gif  It works well for that




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

How to tell if your child has a speech or language problem

 Left untreated, children who start school with speech and language difficulties face an increased risk of reading and writing difficulties, more bullying, poorer peer relationships and less enjoyment of school. So, what should parents expect of children at different ages?

Finding your tribe as a new mum

How was my renegade mother's group different from my first? They were my kind of people. My tribe.

Following your child's emotional roadmap

Psychologist Angharad Candlin will guide parents through their child's emotional development during her seminar at the Essential Baby and Toddler Show in Sydney this weekend.

Delivery room surprises: when gender predictions are wrong

Out of all the questions asked of mums-to-be, “Do you know what you're having?” would be right up there in popularity. Sometimes,

The fertility battle we don't talk about

“You’re nowhere near menopausal,” my doctor cheerily informed me, and my heart sank. I don’t want to live with worry about pregnancy anymore.

'My morning sickness was so bad I'm not having any more kids'

“All the horrible stuff was totally worth it to have my son. But there is absolutely no way I could go through it all again.”

The 'no children' wedding invite

It was the wedding of one of my oldest and dearest friends, and she had invited me to be her bridesmaid. It was quite an honour. But there was one problem.

Baby Dylan recovering well after spending five days alone

 For up to five days he lay alone after his mother died of a suspected drug overdose, but eight-month-old Dylan Micallef has made an incredible recovery.

Win a $200 Pumpkin Patch voucher

Fill out this quick survey and tell us in 25 words or less your best pregnancy or parenting tip - you'll go in the draw to win a $200 Pumpkin Patch voucher.

The mystery of William Tyrell, little boy lost

The question remains: How does a little boy simply vanish without a trace?

Woman fights off robber, then gives birth

A thief in the US got more than he bargained for when he try to rob a woman who was nine months pregnant because he figured she would be an easy target.

Video: Two-year-old tells mum off for laughing at her

This little girl is not happy that her mum started laughing during her performance - so she tells her exactly how she feels about it.

Download now: Essential Kids Activity Finder app

Got bored kids? Quickly find the best activities for kids wherever you are in Australia with the Essential Kids app.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Losing yourself to motherhood

While watching your baby grow into a unique little person is exciting and wondrous, the intensity of meeting everyone else?s needs can ever so sneakily overtake your own needs for self-care.

Tearing during delivery: the facts

Almost all women will experience bruising, grazing or tearing after a vaginal birth. Depending on the degree of tearing, there are various treatments available.

6 tips for a day out with a baby and toddler

Outings can be lots of fun with the kids, but there are inevitable challenges. Here's some information about days out to help you be a little more prepared.

Why I invited a dozen people to watch my son's birth

I sent invitations on burgundy scrapbooking paper stamped with a field of poppies, and told each person why I wanted him or her there. I warned that there would be nudity.

Getting labour started: tips for a natural induction

When your baby?s due date comes and goes without so much as a pop - let alone a bang - it can be disheartening. Mums and a doula share their stories of natural inductions.

7 mistakes old hands make with new babies

As I sat across the table from my friend ? me, a seasoned mother of three; her, a brand new mum ? I thought of all the mistakes an old-hand parent can make when visiting a newborn baby.

That's my boy: a dad's diary of the first 4 months

Unbearable anxiety, unspeakable joy, constant exhaustion and bouts of frustration ... The many shocks of first-time fatherhood resound in a dad's diary of his son's early months.

One of the most important things a new mum can do

Finances may not be as cute as a newborn, but with many women?s working arrangements changing post-baby, monetary matters need attention too.

Does this baby say 'I love you'?

She's only 10 weeks old, but this baby is already dividing people around the world.

Personalised baby gifts

We've scoured the internet to find gorgeous personalised keepsakes and nursery decor to record baby name and dates. They make great gifts for christenings, name days and birthdays! (All prices in AU.)

 

My Wellbeing

Making time for me

We look at your wellbeing, covering health, relationships, beauty and fashion, mind and body.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.