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Posted 23 May 2005 - 07:34 PM
To those wonderful women with BFP's... Would you mind sharing your stats with us? You never know - we may see a pattern emerge??
Type of cycle - IUI, IVF(#?), FET(#?), ICSI etc
Drugs - Most interesting would be luteal support...?
Response - # eggs, # embryos
Embryo transfer - 1 or 2
Stage of embryo/s - 2/3 day, blast, other(?)
...and any other relevant info
This message was edited by JB on Thursday, 26 May 2005 @ 9:30 PM
Posted 23 May 2005 - 07:43 PM
Firniby, excellent idea. People could also add;
PGD (biopsy of embryo's)
Posted 23 May 2005 - 07:51 PM
Thanks, and good thinking 3bubs. Wouldn't it be exciting to see common factors emerge! I hope people respond...
Posted 23 May 2005 - 09:29 PM
My story is good for girls who have been told they have bad eggs.
I am only 5.5 weeks so very early on and plenty to go but a BFP is a good start. Beta was 132 and 6,000 at 5 weeks.
7 x IVF stim cycles
Large egg numbers (av. 18) but all poor quality embroyos
Good fertilistation - day 3 embroyos stop dividing & get fragmentation
Have had cyles with nothing good to transfer
Never had more than 2 so never had any frozen
Fairly high drug dosages - 300-450
Day 3 transfer
And on this cycle we got 3 good embroyos so transfered 2 and 1 in freezer
So what is different?
Lower drug dose of 200
Colorado protocal (usual stim IVF with extra drugs, including drugs for DH)
So I'm not sure why I am pregnant. We think it is a combination of lower level drugs and just plain good luck. Our numbers finally came up!
This message was edited by tan68 on Monday, 23 May 2005 @ 9:37 PM
Posted 24 May 2005 - 08:21 AM
Congrats Tan!...your story is very encouraging to me. I had 19 eggs but only one embryo last cycle and was told it was probably old eggs. New Dr will be lowering dose and doing things differently, so here's hoping. Hope you have a wonderful pgncy.
Thanks Firniby for starting this thread...I'm very interested to see what appears. I was wondering though if you might have more replies by posting it in the "pregnant after difficulty conceiving" area? Perhaps then the information collected could be transferred back into AC? I dunno, just a thought.
Me:42 DH:50,SDs aged 17,15 &13. 50/50 shared custody
Failed Vasectomy Reversal March 2004
ICSI #1 March 2005 BFN
Posted 24 May 2005 - 12:55 PM
I thought I would share my success story with you. After ttc for 11 yrs and having endo, ovarian cancer, only 1 ovary, 2 cysts removed from the other and to top it off MF, I am now 25w pg.
ivf/icsi#1 on 450 puregon - collected 1 egg which didn't last overnight - told to look at donor egg.
ivf/icsi#2 on 600 puregon, changed from lucrin to a drug called cetrotide and did a short cycle. - collected 4 eggs, 3 fertilised, transferred 2 (one 5 day blastocyst and one morulae). Allowed the third to hatch on day 6 to find no DNA (so wasn't holding much hope for the other 2). Now pregnant with a singleton!!!
The other thing we did was DH took a high does of Vitamin E (as advised by specialist) and ejaculated 48 hours prior to giving sample for icsi which increase his viable sperm count and motility.
The cetrotide drug was very expensive but so glad that we tried it. If this can help anyone I am more than happy to oblige and if anyone has any further questions please pm me as I am happy to discuss anything.
PS I am 38 and my DH is 41.
Posted 24 May 2005 - 01:24 PM
Firni, very good question! I'm keen to see stat's too from you fantastic ladies. LJV, that's also a great idea - Firniby, are you happy to start a discussion in that forum?
Robyn, whoa you had the whole gamete! Congrat's on your obviously going-strong pg. Continued good luck to you for the next half.
7 more angel bubs, lost early
TTC since Jan. 2000
Our first ART: PGD, EPU sched. for 3/6!
Posted 24 May 2005 - 01:47 PM
Im happy to share my story, albeit a little shorter than some.
After 2 years TTC, a heartbreaking m/c @ 12 weeks, 6 cycles of clomid, lapy, hyst & dye studies and 1 cycle of IUI we were sitting in the sometimes frustrating category of being "unexplained".
After finishing the IUI cycle we were so "over" the whole thing that we made an appt with our RE and expressed our desire to move on - we were sick of waiting and if we were going to continue undertaking treatment and riding this rollercoaster we decided it had to be a treatment with the greatest success rate - IVF (for us).
This is how it went:
IVF # 1
150 Gonal F
5 eggs collected (as I had already started to ovulate - doh, not happy Jan)
4 eggs successfully fertilised
2 x A grade, 3 day embies transferred
Luteal support = Crinone
2 weeks later we received the phone call to confirm a BFP. We feel blessed every single day to have received this gift and to achieve it on our first IVF cycle is nothing short of a miracle.
I hope this helps somebody, somehow. Best wishes to all you wonderful ladies.
Miki (33)DH (34)
TTC #1 Dec 02
M/C 6/03 (12weeks)
6 x Clomid, IUI x 1
IVF # 1 - BFP Yay!
EDD 15/08/05 (DH's birthday)
This message was edited by mikimbar on Tuesday, 24 May 2005 @ 1:47 PM
Posted 24 May 2005 - 06:54 PM
Hi girls.. what a good idea. i shall give you my stats.. I am 11w2d pg.
Me 29 DH 34
Boy trouble (using donor)
IVF#1 Puregon 150 + syneral
13 eggs, 2 fert
2 T/F, 3 pesseries a day
BFP M/C at 10wks
IVF#2 Puregon 150 + lucrin
12 eggs, 9 fert
2 T/F BFN (7 frosties)
FET#1 BFN (embies defrosted ok but did not continue to divide)
FET#2 last 5 embies defrosted to take to blast
2xBlast T/F BFP!! EDD 11/12/05
4xpesseries a day until 10wks (now down to 1)
Wishing you all the very best and may the baby gods make your dreams come true very soon.
Posted 24 May 2005 - 08:04 PM
Tan, Robyn, Miki, Deb - Congratulations!! and thanks for sharing your stories. It's interesting to see the range of factors and experiences already. Hope more BFP'ers write in. Also hope those of you viewing this topic find it helpful. Kirril, LJV - I'll try to start this up in the other forum.
Posted 24 May 2005 - 08:50 PM
TTC #1 2002
IVF/ICSI #1 150 ui puregon with orgalutran (antagonist protocol) produced 17 eggs, 14 fertilised and 7 were suitable for transfer/freezing at day 5. Transfered one blast. Had HcG shots for luteal phase support. BFP and successful pregnancy.
TTC #2 - 2004
Changed clinic to follow doctor and took 6 embryos with us.
Natural FET #1 - 1 blast transferred - no LP support BFN
Natural FET #2 - 2 blasts transferred - no LP support BFN
Medicated FET #3 - 2 blasts transferred - pessaries for LP support - chem pregnancy
IVF/ICSI #2 - 150 ui puregon with cetrotide (antagonist protocol). Produced 19 eggs in 6.5 days. 13 fertilised and only 2 were suitable for transfer/freezing. Transferred 1 blastocyst. Crinone for LP support. BFN.
Medicated FET #4 - 2 blasts transferred - pessaries for LP support - BFN.
Changed back to the original clinic where I got pregnant with my DD.
IVF/ICSI #3 - 150 ui puregon and lucrin (long protocol). 17 eggs, 11 fertilised and 7 were suitable to transfer or freeze. Transferred 2. Crinone for LP support. BFN.
Natural FET #5 - 2 blasts transferred, lost one in the thaw though. pessaries for LP support. Did acupunture for the very first time this cycle. BFP.
Phew! I feel like I have a long history. I'm just hoping that this last one is a keeper.
Posted 24 May 2005 - 08:56 PM
Me: 34 now, but 32 during successful IVF
Diagnosis - MF
What we did: IVF with ICSI (& DH had TESA). Got 8 good eggs, 4 fertilised, 3 made it to day 5. Transferred 1 blast (froze the others) - now have an almost 14 mo DD.
Drugs were synarel & puregon (started on 150 I think, but my body got carried away, dropped to 100, then 75, then coasted for awhile). No HCG shots after EPU due to risk of OHSS, so just crinone for about 2 weeks.
Hope that helps someone.
We're about to get the frosties out & do a FET so I'm interested to read the FET stats - especially re the defrosting stats.
Posted 25 May 2005 - 11:54 AM
Here's mine to:-
Started IVF 2002 due to MF (at the time) very low sperm count. Had been trying other ways for 2 years.
Started IVF Sept 02
down reg included 225mls of purgon
At EPU collected 23 eggs - 10 fertilised via ICSI and we lost 1 during defrosting. I also had mild hypo-stim.
1st transfer PFP but lost preg at 8 weeks
2nd Transfer FET PFP but again No's didnt rise wait
to mc at 6 weeks.
DH & I are sent away to have blood test for M/C genetic problems etc - Nothing found. However as there seemed to be a problem with implantation it was recommended that I try baby asprin and my naturapath recommended vitex.
3rd Trans FET Start taking Vitex and Cardaprin (Baby
asprin). BFP and DS born 2/1/04
4th Tran FET BFN new nurse who doesnt believe me
that I only "o" within a period of 3
hours and Seraket doesnt work. No
asprin or Vitex.
5th Tran FET BFP again I took baby asprin but I
stopped taking it around 8 weeks as I
kept forgetting and at my 2nd U/S the
baby's H/B had stopped two days
before the U/S at 10 1/2 weeks. I dont
know if its related.
Currently stimming again with the same protocol but we are doing PGD for the m/c.
I feel in my heart that the Vitex and baby asprin helped me to achieve a PFP with DS transfer.
Never rule out FETs as you can see they do work
Posted 25 May 2005 - 04:57 PM
Firniby great idea starting this thread very interesting results already.
Im interested in the luteal phase support after epu it seems the more support we get the better the result. Keep the threads coming girls the more the better.
Posted 25 May 2005 - 06:28 PM
I've now posted this discussion in the other forum. Will copy any responses back here.
Kaboo (Andy) wrote:
Background: Fell pg naturally with ds#1 at age 27 after 2 yrs
ttc. Tried for 2 yrs and fell naturally but had a m/c at 9wks
Investigations: only usual 21 day blood tests and SA for dh -
diagnosis was unexplained secondary subfertility. I was 31
when we started AC.
IUI - 50iu puregon, 2 follies, no hcg trigger, no luteal
support - BFN
IVF - 100iu puregon (I respond well to it) and syneral,
10 eggs, 9 mature and fertilised, 1 x 4 cell embryo at 2 day
transfer and only 2 more made it to 4 cells to be frozen by
that evening, Crinone for luteal support - BFN
2 long cycles in between IVF and FET - plus the clinic closed
over Xmas delaying our FET date.
Natural cycle FET - Both remaining 4 cell embryos (2
day old) defrosted, one embryo had started to divide and was
at the 6 cell stage when transferred on cd 20 but the other
had not started to divide but we still transferred it, no luteal
support - BFP singleton pregnancy
HTH and good luck
DS#2 28.10.04 - FET baby
Posted 25 May 2005 - 06:39 PM
I'm really diggin' this - well done you legends and keep the info coming
10 embies/5 transfers
Lap, dye, endometrial biopsy and D&C May 05
IUI and FET happening now!
Posted 25 May 2005 - 08:55 PM
My DH broke his neck and became a quadriplegic when I was 34 and we hadn't started TTCing (tho we both wanted kids). Over two years later we finally had our heads (mostly) around our new life and decided to go ahead and TTC. Turned out to be too tricky to get sperm samples reliably to try AI at home or IUI for a few cycles, so in April 2003 went straight to IVF with ICSI using sperm collected and frozen the previous month. It was my first ever attempt to get pg.
Gonal-F 187.5U for 8d then 225U for 4d
8 eggs collected, ICSI done on 6, 5 fertilised
By day 5 all we had left were one ok(ish) blast and one early blast so transferred both.
Luteal support = 1500U HCG at 2dpo and 500U at 7dpo
Beta = 224 at 11dp5dt
First u/s confirmed a singleton pg, the rest of my pg and labour and birth were boringly normal and we now have a nearly 15m old happy and healthy DD.
I am currently doing IVF/ICSI #2 (age 39) so can't really compare stats until we know whether it's another BFP. Here's hoping!
Posted 25 May 2005 - 09:19 PM
This thread is a fantastic idea Firni. I agree with
Ratbag...keep the stories coming. It gives me hope!!
TTC #1- since May 2003
2004- Clomid 6 cycles, Lap
2005- IVF#1-BFN FET#1- June
This message was edited by alicia.s on Wednesday, 25 May 2005 @ 9:21 PM
Posted 25 May 2005 - 09:28 PM
Our story is a lot more mundane than most, but I might as well add it too!
TTC 7 years, finally had a laparoscopy last year (when I realised time really *was* ticking away!) and found lots of adhesions and non-repairable tubes which were removed, meaning our only hope was IVF. I have a history of immune disease and have had chronic hypertension since I had a stroke at 18.
We discovered DH had very poor sperm count and motility, so started him on a range of vitamin supplements.
First IVF w/ICSI in March:
Me 33, DH 36
Standard down regulation - .10mg of Lucrin daily. I ended up taking this for over a month because I had a large ovarian cyst that just wouldn't go away.
Stims: 225mg Puregon, plus the .10mg of Lucrin for 14 days
Result: Retrieved 14 follicles, 12 eggs fertilised, 6 made it to transfer. The two best 4-cells were transferred, the other 4 frozen.
LPS: 8% Crinone twice daily for 13 days.
2WW: Sucks! But we got a BFP! My progesterone was 220 at my first blood test, 4 days later it was 250. We recently discovered it's twins - totally unexpected. I'm 9wks pregnant.
Hope this is either helpful or vaguely interesting, and best of luck to all of you!
Posted 25 May 2005 - 09:46 PM
My story is short and sweet (so to speak, plenty of times there was nothing sweet about it!)....
I have a female partner, so we used frozen donor sperm.
3 natural IUI's - all BFN
another 5 IUI's with pregnyl LH support - BFN
02/05 - lap, hysteroscopy and dye - all clear
03/05 - natural with new donor - LH support with Pregnyl BFN
04/05 - Clomid 50mg D5 - 9 then Gonal-F day 9 - ovulation @ 50. 1 follie. Trigger with Pregnyl and Pregnyl LH support. BFN
05/05 - Puregon - day 3 - ovulation @ 75, then 100, then 150 for the last two days. Two follies. Pregnyl LH support. BFP. Currently 5 weeks pg.
All of my luteal support was 3/6/10 days post ov with 1500iu.
Best of luck to all of you wonderful women who are still chasing the miracle you all sooo deserve.
TTC #1 11 months
8 natural cycles - double IUI
Feb 05 - lap and hysteroscopy and dye - all clear!
Mar 05 - 1st modified cycle - BFN
April/May 05 - Puregon and ICI! Go little thorpies!!
22/5/05 - Finally our unbeliveable BFP
This message was edited by becj245 on Sunday, 19 June 2005 @ 10:09 AM
Posted 25 May 2005 - 09:48 PM
* We've done 7 (6 stims & 1 Fet) cycles. 5 PGD cycles
* Have a 3yr old daughter from cycle 3 and I now have a son (10 weeks) edited Oct 21st from cycle 7.
* Diagnosis is unexplained - probably more age. I'm 41 and DH is 45.
* Prior to IVF i fell pregnant naturally a few times but miscarried 4 times (latest at 9 weeks) and once whilst cycling. However it was taking a long time to fall pregnant and we were told to go straight to PGD.
* I noticed as each cycle went by, i got less embies for biopsy, quality was declining and my body seemed to be coming more resistant to the drugs.
Cancelled just before EPU, not enough eggs for PGD.
18 eggs, 13 embies, 8 biopsed = 4 normal, 3 abnormal & 1 inconclusive.
Transferred 2 normal compacting females. Chemical preg. No frosties.
Changed Dr's within clinic.
Colorado Protocal, also proluton injections.
16 eggs, 11 embies, 6 biopsed = 2 normal, 2 abnormal, 1 inconclusive & 1 not totally tested.
1 normal compacting male & 1 compacting untested transferred (other normal died o/n in lab).
++++++ My daughter (the untested embie) was born.
Everything else in this cycle died. No frosties.
(my embies NEVER make it past day 5 in the lab).
8 eggs, 6 embryos, 4 biopsed - ALL Abnormal.
Nothing to tranfer, end of cycle.
500 Puregon, didn't sniff whilst stimming
Split dose, 2 injections a day, 250 morning and 250 night.
Colorado Protocol, pessaries + crinone.
15 eggs, 9 embies, 3 biopsed = 1 normal, 1 abnormal and 1 inconclusive.
Transferred normal compacting male & compacting inclusive embie.
Froze 1 non PGD'd embie that was compacting.
500 Puregon, didn't sniff whilst stimming (started ovulating)
Split dose, 2 injections a day, 250 morning and 250 night.
Colorado Protocol + crinone + pessaries.
8 eggs, 7 embies
Didn't update my diary, but from memory only 2 or 3 were biopsed and only 1 normal.
Transferred 1 normal 10 cell and 1 7 cell untested embie
Froze 1 non PGD'd embie compacting.
Colorado Protocol + crinone + pessaries.
Both embies thawed well & transferred 1 compacting & 1 7 cell embie.
I insisted on Assisted Hatching on both.
+++++++ Son born Aug 9th, 2005.
This is the end of our IVF journey.
Fell pregnant naturally at 43 and gave birth to a son aged 44 in November 2007.
This message was edited by JB on Friday, 21 October 2005 @ 7:28 AM
Posted 25 May 2005 - 09:50 PM
I will share mine if you like
We had been TTC just over 2 years when we got our first BFP. I have PCOS and our specialist suspected there was some sort of 'bonding' issue. I don't ovulate naturally at all and was on Clomid for well over a year!
We did 2X IUI's late last year but both BFN's.
We were aiming to do half IVF/ half ICSI for our first IVF. However we only ended up with 6 eggs so they did all ICSI, 2 of them looked 'dodgy' and only 3 fertilised. At day 2 only 2 were still surviving and we put them both back for many reasons but the main one being I was scared that by freezing only 1 it wouldn't survive defrost. It was a Day 2 transfer.
I had pessaries twice a day for 2 weeks after E/T and HCG injections 3 times.
SO basically we are nearly 9 weeks pregnant with Twins that are the only surviving embryos from ICSI on a Day 2 Transfer.
Posted 26 May 2005 - 04:07 AM
Thought I'd add my short and simple story:
DH has a son from ICSI with his previous partner, so we knew we were dealing with MF issues before even starting TTC. We TTC naturally for 10 cycles anyway (going to naturopath to see if that would help at all, and it didn't). When we saw the fertility specialist we were fastracked to ICSI.
Type of cycle - ICSI#1 short/flare cycle (no down regulation time, no pill)
Drugs - Synarel 10 days, 150 gonal-f 9 days, ovidrel trigger, 2x1500 Pregnyl injections for LP support
Response - 7 eggs, 4 high quality embryos fertilised
Embryo transfer - 2 (and 2 to freeze)
Stage of embryo/s - 2 day
Result - HCG 537 on 16 days past EPU - singleton confirmed at 7 week ultrasound. I'm currently just past 9 weeks.
age - DH 37, me 34 (turned 35 two days after BFP)
Reasons for doing AC - MF (count less than 2 mil, motility, morphology issues as well).
Posted 26 May 2005 - 02:44 PM
Hi ladies, i'm only too happy to share my story...
I went off the pill at the end of January 2004. I spent the following 10 months tracking my completely irregular periods. I had cycles varying from 23 to 38 days. I was able to detect ovulation using opk's on only six out of the ten cycles.
In November 2004 i consulted a spec where i was diagnosed with PCOS. All other tests came back clear, although DF's morphology was 1.5% below normal standards.
In January 2005 we began IUI with injections. I took 50iu of Puregon from cycle day 5 through to 16. One follie matured, i was triggered at 4:30pm one afternoon and had the IUI at 9:30am the next morning.
On days 2, 5 and 8 past IUI, i had luteal phase support injections in the form of 1200iu of Pregnyl and we are now 20 weeks pregnant.
Good luck to everyone! Feel free to PM me in case all of the above sounded look goobledeegook!
Posted 26 May 2005 - 06:24 PM
I cant believe I got a BFP yesterday (16dpo #490) so I can now add to this thread...
#2 ICSI - Age 37, MF, endo (1x lap)
Down reg - pill/synarel/Gonal F 300/Pregnyl injections
Response - 4 eggs/3 embies
One transfered @ day 2, other 2 frozen
Now waiting for 7 week scan (fingers crossed!)
Hope this is helpful. Good luck to everybody
TTC#1 since Apr 03
ICSI #1 - m/c 7 weeks (Nov 04)
FET x 2 - bfn's Feb/Mar
ICSI #2 - OMG BFP!!
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