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#1 Yippee-Ki-Yay

Posted 26 March 2020 - 11:07 AM

19yo will be at a disadvantage as his access to a support teacher is now gone. It is a diploma course though, and I suspect requirements for the course will change as it relied heavily on work placement and practical modules.

16yo in yr11 is going to really struggle without the additional support.

I am wondering what other schools (especially high schools) have in place to support learning for kids with ASD. I would like to be able to go to the school with some suggestions rather than just presenting a problem.

TIA

#2 PrincessPeach

Posted 26 March 2020 - 11:25 AM

I was about to start an almost similar topic except for primary school kids.

#3 Moo point

Posted 26 March 2020 - 11:43 AM

Only primary school here, but we've been given absolutely nothing different. Our ILP meeting was cancelled without even an offer to do it over the phone, and we still have 2 weeks of school left. Apparently kids have to check in every day on the online platform and those that don't will get a personal check-in by their teacher - but honestly I figure we're in this alone, we'll do what we can, but without peer pressure and appropriate support DS is not motivated.

#4 ekbaby

Posted 26 March 2020 - 11:49 AM

Hi, the high school that I work at (in a non-educator role) has all the SLSO’s ringing the students that need extra support daily, to check in with how they are going and talk through the work. It has been difficult to set up logistically as the school has a limited number of phone lines and some staff are working from home. They are actually relying on borrowed mobile phones and cheap SIM cards. I’m sure once they get it up and running properly it will be much better.

#5 Winging it Mum

Posted 26 March 2020 - 03:55 PM

I have no idea how DS13 will do. He needs a lot of support and we are both working from home. So whilst in principle we are here, we can't school him.

He will independently work maybe for 30mins if it's something he can do and if he's in the right frame of mind. It's going to be a struggle.

So, next term I'm prepared for taking the odd day off to help and we will do what we can with him on weekends. Other than that he will miss schooling whilst we still have work. If that goes down the drain, then that's a whole other issue like it is for many.

#6 toc76

Posted 26 March 2020 - 04:28 PM

Reading this makes me feel like we are very lucky with our support from both my sons primary and secondary schools.

My DS1 has been allocated a LSO officer who will work with him on his English, Maths, Science, humanities and Language each day.  She will dial in at a particular time and work with him one on one on what ever area he needs the support in.

For my DS2, his primary teacher is providing him with a customised plan for what he needs to do each day including a range of brain breaks that he can do.

#7 lizzzard

Posted 26 March 2020 - 04:38 PM

 Winging it Mum, on 26 March 2020 - 03:55 PM, said:

I have no idea how DS13 will do. He needs a lot of support and we are both working from home. So whilst in principle we are here, we can't school him.

He will independently work maybe for 30mins if it's something he can do and if he's in the right frame of mind. It's going to be a struggle.

So, next term I'm prepared for taking the odd day off to help and we will do what we can with him on weekends. Other than that he will miss schooling whilst we still have work. If that goes down the drain, then that's a whole other issue like it is for many.

DS11 is similar...to be honest I don't even think he would be able to do 30 minutes independently...maybe 15.

Is there any way you and/or your DH can negotiate some flexibility wrt your work hours? I am logging on at 7am-9am, then sitting with DS to do school work from 9-2pm (with some breaks), then I log back on to work 2-8pm.

#8 ytt

Posted 26 March 2020 - 04:42 PM

This is why my DD deferred uni :( she would have no access to the educational supports they put in place.

Thank goodness she could defer.

#9 sne

Posted 26 March 2020 - 04:43 PM

We're in Victoria so on holidays until after Easter.  We took workbooks,  iPad, readers etc home but won't get instructions on work to do until next term. We are not sure how it's going to work.

Both my kids have asd. My ds10 attends school part time and has a ilp and full time aides.  His teacher told me she'll send individual lessons for him. I told her point blank that we will do our best but his mental health is more important than arguments and stressing over school work.  She agreed.

My daughter is excited to get started, but I am sure the novelty will wear off quickly. There will be much push back from her when that happens.

I don't drink, but I may make an exception.

#10 CrankyM

Posted 26 March 2020 - 04:50 PM

I fully don’t expect much to be done. Both my kids seem to require so much support that I can’t give them while also working. My kiddo is in primary. I am seriously contemplating the possibility of having the big kid repeat yr 6 if it goes on for an extended period of time.

#11 *Spikey*

Posted 26 March 2020 - 05:07 PM

Hey YKY,

At our school, the LSU have been contacting every family with a ILP/ELP for a child, to discuss support in the new environment. But that being said, the ACT was quick off the mark to go pupil free, so we kind of knew that this was on its way .

I would think that if you haven't heard anything during next week, an inquiry to the school's learning support unit would be worthwhile. They may be waiting on teachers coming up with a unit plan, so that they can build in support - hard to say.

I have some ASD kids in my class, but they're going to thrive with distance ed, as they like a bit of 'quiet time' for working, and then getting back to me when they're ready. I just need to build in enough feedback, so that they're continually practicing new skills and expanding their understanding.

The ESL kids are my bigger concern. My subjects are hard, and it is easier to work through misunderstandings and misinterpretations in person. :(

#12 Nasty Teens

Posted 26 March 2020 - 05:19 PM

I have provided my students with tasks where they are already very familiar with the structure, they know the steps to take to complete it. As we go on I will adjust the work as I see what my students can manage in the new learning environment. Everything is individually tailored. Students and parents have both my email and work mobile phone number (I purchased a phone specifically for this). I am available 9-4 at the moment and will adjust these times as I see what my families need.

#13 jojonbeanie

Posted 26 March 2020 - 05:34 PM

Absolutely nothing from my child’s specialist school. They closed to students on Monday due to a staff member testing positive. They haven’t even responded to my email about how to collect a piece of equipment which belongs to us and would be very useful at home in isolation.

i’m creating my own learning plan and resources. As we no longer have assistance of personal carers in the home for him my full time plus job is caring and teaching him. Today as part of his communication plan DS joined an international Scout online meeting and shared using sign language and his electronic communication device. This was only possible because of full time support from me and planning by his brother who helped facilitate the meeting.

Edited by jojonbeanie, 26 March 2020 - 05:36 PM.


#14 Yippee-Ki-Yay

Posted 26 March 2020 - 07:09 PM

I’m so sorry jjb. There seems to be a weird attitude to people with disabilities during this virus.

Many of my friends have children they are caring for who have serious medical conditions and need high level support to toilet, eat and even breathe. When the workforce who perform those tasks inevitably become ill, who is going to do it? Especially if there arent lots of informal supports in place? It’s honestly nearly like they hope a bunch of people with disabilities contract the virus and succumb to it! People with disability and their careers are being seriously devalued. Not that it surprises anyone, I’m sure.

Interesting the some of you have had plans already put in place. Like a pop. We are in school holidays, but 16yo’s school works slowly at best and any chance getting support in place will take weeks at best.

For my child, being able to describe anything he has trouble with will be much harder. I’m tempted to let him finish this semester and return next year to do it again. Will have to wait and see how things progress.

#15 Lifesgood

Posted 26 March 2020 - 07:37 PM

My DS is in year 4 and has mild ASD. He struggles if he doesn't have clear instructions and plenty of structure. We have had a few tears here the past couple of days but things are improving as we develop a new routine for him. On the other hand, the absence of stimulation is probably helpful.

#16 *Spikey*

Posted 26 March 2020 - 07:54 PM

JJB,

if someone who was at the school tested positive, it is likely that the teachers etc, are not at school. They'd need to wait until after it was strictly cleaned from top to bottom, including all equipment that the person (and their connections) have touched. A mammoth task in a high school.

Send a reminder email, they will be crushed under the weight of admin at this point and if you need that item, say when you plan to show up to get it unless otherwise arranged.

#17 Yippee-Ki-Yay

Posted 03 April 2020 - 12:38 PM

Just wanted to see if others have had much movement in this respect. I have had no response to a query to the school. I understand planning may be in process but with the school's track record its more likely that as 16yo isnt funded he wont be supported.

19yo is doing his last day of remote learning for his double diploma course today before going on a term break. Before remote learning he was ahead in his work. Three weeks of remote learning and he is far behind. He is like me and tends to struggle to adapt tasks to different environments. He just cant focus at home. Not sure how tafe providers are required to support disabilities, but will need to look into things I think. My child went into debt for the course so I need to help him make sure he is getting value for money.

#18 PooksLikeChristmas

Posted 03 April 2020 - 12:51 PM

I’ve heard nothing from the primary school yet. I’m expecting some general information next week. No idea if they’ll offer anything specific for SN students but I’m not expecting much initially. Honestly I’m not sure if he’ll engage with it at all.

#19 Araucaria

Posted 03 April 2020 - 01:08 PM

For my ASD students (none are funded), I'm planning on sending work in formats that they already know, and including things like templates for their writing.  I'm also making sure all the instructions are very clear, step by step.  I'm also planning to be online during set hours so that students/parents can log in to ask any questions that they may need.  This is all early days, I'm sure there will be plenty of kinks, but hopefully we can all work together to get through it.

#20 jelly'smum

Posted 03 April 2020 - 01:09 PM

I had to go and pick up a pack from my son's special school. It has instructions and pecs sheets and tasks set out for him, plus some links to online learning that they use.

#21 blimkybill

Posted 03 April 2020 - 02:41 PM

YKY, I was thinking for both of your boys, getting an online tutor might be a great use of your NDIS funds. You could send the tutor all the course materials by email, then they could get together online, share  documents, and the boys could get some structured help with their work.
Ask your support co-ordinator. It doesn't matter if that's not what was funded. these are extraordinary times and people are allowed to be creative with their NDIS funds. In a group I am on, someone asked for online tutors, and so many orgs and individuals put up their hands (as it doesn't actually matter where they are located).

#22 CrankyM

Posted 03 April 2020 - 02:48 PM

Nothing here. We were supposed to have the case conference regarding his IEP this week...

#23 Lifesgood

Posted 03 April 2020 - 07:56 PM

Our principal called and offered for DS to come in to school for his lessons due to his SN. That is so lovely of them but we said he is getting in to a great routine at home so we will talk to his teacher and see what she thinks.

#24 PrincessPeach

Posted 03 April 2020 - 08:31 PM

We received a generic email saying school will be open for term 2 as per the ed department.

Not sure how it will be delivered yet, but they gave 3 options on how its being planned.

Mind you, DS wont be attending if the social distancing is still in order for the general public.

#25 kadoodle

Posted 03 April 2020 - 09:00 PM

DS3 thinks homeschooling is awesomesauce, and he’s doing it from now on. Yeah, nah mate.

DS1 (ASD) is getting stroppy from the Chang in routine, but has set his phone to the school bell times and is working according to his timetable. Hopefully he’ll come around to liking it.




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