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Poll: Because I need to know (411 member(s) have cast votes)

If you voted for the coalition at the last election, are you satisfied with Morrison's fire response?

  1. Yes (22 votes [5.37%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.37%

  2. No (23 votes [5.61%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.61%

  3. I didn't vote for them (365 votes [89.02%])

    Percentage of vote: 89.02%

No matter who you voted for, do you think the people in Cobargo were justified in yelling abuse at him?

  1. Yes (337 votes [82.20%])

    Percentage of vote: 82.20%

  2. No (73 votes [17.80%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.80%

Do you wish we'd voted in Shorten in light of the fact that he had a plan to put an aerial firefighting response in place, and has demonstrated leadership qualities?

  1. Of couse (363 votes [88.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 88.54%

  2. No, I'm a psychopath (47 votes [11.46%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.46%

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#1 BadCat

Posted 03 January 2020 - 07:47 AM

Just because I really want to know if anyone is really OK with the government response to the fire situation.

I hope nobody finds this in poor taste.  If people feel it's out of line I'll delete. I'm just angry and wondering whether anyone is game enough to speak their support here in the current circumstances.

Edited by BadCat, 03 January 2020 - 07:56 AM.


#2 Dawnshade

Posted 03 January 2020 - 07:59 AM

I voted Liberal, but am very unhappy with the response to the fires by the government and certainly will not be voting for them next election.

#3 **Xena**

Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:00 AM

Honestly I think the people who did/do vote for LNP vote according to their own economics and/or religion.

I have always voted to protect the most vulnerable- the environment, the poor, the refugees, the sick etc. It wasn't until talking to some people after Tony Abbott got in that I realised many people vote for which party will do the most for them and/or uphold their religious beliefs.

Edited by **Xena**, 03 January 2020 - 08:04 AM.


#4 rosie28

Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:01 AM

The Liberals have acted in an entirely predictable manner. Coupled with Scott Morrison’s religious beliefs and he was always going to sit back and watch it burn.

#5 ~LemonMyrtle~

Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:07 AM

havent been following his response at all.  Maybe because there hasnt been one?  I read he said something like "its a state issue"  which is the biggest load of BS ive ever heard, and just an excuse to not get involved. These fires are across several states, its a national emergency and if he cant throw them a few pennies at the very least then he is the biggest **** wit ever.

This article about cost shifting (and IMO blame shifting) is pretty much what i see hapenning here

https://www.smh.com....231-p53nt1.html

(i wont answer your poll cause its a little one sided, lol)

Edited by ~LemonMyrtle~, 03 January 2020 - 08:08 AM.


#6 MagsJee

Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:08 AM

I'm sad to say that I only read Shorten's bushfire plan for water bombers, Elvis' and smokejumpers yesterday.  I'm upduffed so super hormonal but it made me cry at the absolute tragedy of a missed opportunity that would have made a world of difference to our country (not just for bushfires, clearly).

#7 Lunafreya

Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:09 AM

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#8 BadCat

Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:10 AM

Even my mother is not entirely happy with him.  I mean, that's like WIlly Wonka going off chocolate a bit. huge.

#9 IamzFeralz

Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:11 AM

The Young Liberals have also distanced themselves from the Government’s approach to climate change too.  They really are taking those who voted them in for granted to serve their corporate mining overlords.

#10 José

Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:12 AM

I agree with xena.
I think people who vote liberal are thinking about what is best for them as individuals. Of course living in a safe country with affordable food grown by local farmers with appropriate education and healthcare etc etc actually does benefit every individual but liberal voters seem not to see it that way.
I can't say I condone yelling abuse. However these people are probably experiencing the most challenging time of their life..I don't judge them for anything they did or didn't say or do. And if I lose my home ScoMo is NOT who I'd be hoping to see!!
And if he took my hand like he did with that woman I couldn't guarantee I wouldn't take my hand back then slap him with it!

#11 MayaTheGrinch

Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:14 AM

My MIL thinks he’s doing a fine job. Because he doesn’t need to hold a hose you know and it’s fine for him to have a family holiday. She looked shocked when I told her he’d only say 35 days this year and already had 2 family holidays... FIL started shouting at the TV about what an appalling incompetent leader he was and I almost died. He’s usually also a dyed in wool liberal voter. Maybe he won’t vote for them next time. Maybe he will. (They get a bucket of money via franking credits).

Edited by MayaTheGrinch, 03 January 2020 - 08:14 AM.


#12 SM3s Fight Song

Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:20 AM

ILs are died in the wool Liberal voters.  There are fires close to their place, but I would be surprised if this changed their opinion.  DH and I were both bought up in families that always voted Liberal, but except the first time I voted at 18 I've never voted Liberal since.  DH and my dad don't vote Liberal either now.

A lot of Canberrans I know are prepping just in case ahead of the weekend.  I don't think people will forget this in a hurry, there's a lot of terror around here. I'm hoping it will be the end for the Liberal government.

Edited by SM3s Fight Song, 03 January 2020 - 08:21 AM.


#13 *Spikey*

Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:39 AM

Problem is, ACT region tends to vote ALP anyway. So even those who change aren't going to necessarily impact on who has government.

#14 Daffy2016

Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:39 AM

I do wonder if people will separate the leader from the party - as in, vote liberal even though they don’t agree with/hate Morrison. Because they may still agree with the underlying principles of the party (which I do not, but understand that others do).

Morrison is a leader in the sense he can get his MPs together and get stuff through parliament. He is not good at people, particularly people who aren’t politicians.

#15 Kallie88

Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:47 AM

View PostMagsJee, on 03 January 2020 - 08:08 AM, said:

I'm sad to say that I only read Shorten's bushfire plan for water bombers, Elvis' and smokejumpers yesterday.  I'm upduffed so super hormonal but it made me cry at the absolute tragedy of a missed opportunity that would have made a world of difference to our country (not just for bushfires, clearly).

Same, I'd not seen it during the election (but didn't really matter I wasn't voting lib anyway) and thinking what a difference it could have made now. Just devastating. I'm completely mind boggled that so many people are excusing Morrison's spectacular lack of leadership and blaming greens/greenies for these fires.
Edit typo

Edited by Kallie88, 03 January 2020 - 08:47 AM.


#16 Lallalla

Posted 03 January 2020 - 08:55 AM

I wish there was a 3rd option for question three “do you wish we’d voted for Australia to become New Zealand’s 3rd island?”

#17 Chchgirl

Posted 03 January 2020 - 09:21 AM

Nz don't want to be part of Oz lol 😊

I am between Oz and Nz for a few months till I'm permanently in Nz, I would have rather copped a fine than vote this government but I've never voted them.

Maybe abusing him was wrong but whi can blame them?

A lot of people voted this government in, I'm not sure what they expected to be honest.

#18 cinnamonnutmeg

Posted 03 January 2020 - 09:24 AM

We voted against our own financial position and went Labour. We would have been out a fair chunk of change but decided to vote for society > ourselves.

As much as 20/20 hindsight says ALP should have gotten in, I read the other day (briefly, very happy to be wrong) that Albanese has cowtowed to fossil fuel and declared his commitment to fossil fuel and climate change denialism.

ALP is not the answer it seems.

#19 ~Jolly_F~

Posted 03 January 2020 - 09:27 AM

Albanese is not the answer - he never was.

I think Shorten would have done a decent job.

I think it’s dumb when people say things like I don’t support liberal or their policies but I don’t like Shorten - seriously you’re actually willing to **** us all over because of something so damn stupid!!!

#20 Chchgirl

Posted 03 January 2020 - 09:30 AM

View Post~Jolly_F~, on 03 January 2020 - 09:27 AM, said:

Albanese is not the answer - he never was.

I think Shorten would have done a decent job.

I think it’s dumb when people say things like I don’t support liberal or their policies but I don’t like Shorten - seriously you’re actually willing to **** us all over because of something so damn stupid!!!

I agree with this. I was feeling awful about the result last May even though I knew I was moving.  I still have a daughter living in Oz.

#21 marple

Posted 03 January 2020 - 09:33 AM

Yes I never really got the Shorten hate. It was quite out of proportion to anything he'd done as far as I could see. My in-laws don't vote Liberal but said they refused to vote for Shorten. This was before the franking credits thing which I think the vast majority of people didn't really understand anyway. He really should have left that to after the election. People just reallyy seemed to hate him. I don't know why.

#22 #notallcats

Posted 03 January 2020 - 09:37 AM

I wouldn't normally condone abuse but it seems water off a duck's back to Morrison.  His response  was so indifferent.   A firefighter politely refuses to shake his hand and he responds with "well nice to see you".  ?  And then explains the behaviour of firefighter as he must be tired?!  umm no mate, that's not it.

Edited by #notallcats, 03 January 2020 - 09:39 AM.


#23 purplekitty

Posted 03 January 2020 - 09:44 AM

View Postmarple, on 03 January 2020 - 09:33 AM, said:

Yes I never really got the Shorten hate. It was quite out of proportion to anything he'd done as far as I could see. My in-laws don't vote Liberal but said they refused to vote for Shorten. This was before the franking credits thing which I think the vast majority of people didn't really understand anyway. He really should have left that to after the election. People just reallyy seemed to hate him. I don't know why.

Murdoch.

People need to see the manipulation the Murdoch media indulges in.
It is a cancer here,the US and the UK.

There is still an element of trust in news organisations and Murdoch takes advantage of that to outright lie and deliver misinformation.

Heck,Murdoch co-ordinates what he prints etc. with the LNP election campaigns.

The sooner people take their rose-coloured glass off and realise that politicians are in direct contact with the mining companies,religious figures and Murdoch the better we will all be.

#24 nom_de_plume

Posted 03 January 2020 - 09:56 AM

I’m neither left nor right but I think ScoMo is a p*** weak leader. I can’t help but think even the Mad Monk would show more empathy to the bushfire victims than he did. I wish Malcolm could have grown a pair and stood up to the far right, because if we have to have a Lib government I’d rather him as the leader.

If anything good (politically speaking) comes out of this crisis, hopefully it’s some serious traction on climate policy.

#25 No Drama Please

Posted 03 January 2020 - 10:28 AM

I think it’s going to be hard for them to ignore climate change now and patronise anyone who brings it up as being over anxious drama queens. I think there’s been too much damage and in your face media coverage around the globe. If it starts affecting investor confidence and hits them in the money section of their hearts then we might have some hope of them taking it seriously. It’s my hope anyway.




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