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#1 AnaBeavenhauser

Posted 21 October 2019 - 06:22 PM

Got what I needed - thanks

Edited by AnaBeavenhauser, 22 October 2019 - 06:59 PM.


#2 PrincessPeach

Posted 21 October 2019 - 07:12 PM

http://behaviour.edu...uspensions.aspx

This should help.

#3 AnaBeavenhauser

Posted 21 October 2019 - 07:42 PM

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Edited by AnaBeavenhauser, 22 October 2019 - 07:00 PM.


#4 FuzzyChocolateToes

Posted 22 October 2019 - 06:48 AM

I'm in Vic, and it was public HS. I was called in to a meeting with a leadership teacher the day after the incident (Thursday). A discussion was held and we were informed that one day suspension was the action. I thought it was appropriate in the circumstances. Staff asked which day we preferred, I agreed that the next day (Friday) was ok. I signed the relevant paperwork and he continued classes for the Thursday.

I'm surprised they didn't follow a similar protocol with you and your son.

#5 José

Posted 22 October 2019 - 07:12 AM

View PostFuzzyChocolateToes, on 22 October 2019 - 06:48 AM, said:

I'm in Vic, and it was public HS. I was called in to a meeting with a leadership teacher the day after the incident (Thursday). A discussion was held and we were informed that one day suspension was the action. I thought it was appropriate in the circumstances. Staff asked which day we preferred, I agreed that the next day (Friday) was ok. I signed the relevant paperwork and he continued classes for the Thursday.

I'm surprised they didn't follow a similar protocol with you and your son.

Im in NSW. There would be no discussion about which day/s you prefer! And i dont actually think signatures are required for anything.
Some investigation should be done prior to the suspension being decided. Once its been determined by school that a suspension is appropriate you can formally appeal if you want.

#6 mpoppins92

Posted 22 October 2019 - 08:28 AM

In WA, I think our documents have a lot more to do with the practicalities of suspension but the actual decision is left to individual schools to manage.

It does seem disproportionate but depends on what instruction he was disobeying I suppose. My answer would change if it was fighting, damaging school property, leaving school grounds, harassment of another student etc.

#7 annodam

Posted 22 October 2019 - 08:52 AM

My answer would depend on what your son was actually doing at the time.
For eg., was he bullying another student & the Teacher repeatedly told him to stop & he did not?

Unless you want to reveal what your son did to warrant the suspension, then no one here can advise you.

#8 EsmeLennox

Posted 22 October 2019 - 09:05 AM

The only bit of that I think is wrong, from what you’ve said in your OP, is that they didn’t discuss it with your child.

Edited by EsmeLennox, 22 October 2019 - 09:05 AM.


#9 AnaBeavenhauser

Posted 22 October 2019 - 03:22 PM

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Edited by AnaBeavenhauser, 22 October 2019 - 07:00 PM.


#10 gettin my fance on

Posted 22 October 2019 - 03:35 PM

 AnaBeavenhauser, on 22 October 2019 - 03:22 PM, said:

He was chasing the nesting plovers on the oval.

He's 11yo-ish and repeatedly harassing protected native birds despite being directed to stop.

If he was 5yo, I would say that suspension was ott and that recess and lunchtimes outside the principal's office for a few days would do the trick.

But he is 11-ish.  Well and truly old enough to not torment wildlife.

Edited by gettin my fance on, 22 October 2019 - 07:20 PM.


#11 PizzaPlease

Posted 22 October 2019 - 03:36 PM

 AnaBeavenhauser, on 22 October 2019 - 03:22 PM, said:

He was chasing the nesting plovers on the oval.

I admit, that made me laugh. It sounds like an overreaction to me and I think it's odd that they effectively called you up after school and told you not to bring him in the next day. I wonder what would have happened if you had told them that you had a job interview at 9:30am the next day.

#12 qak

Posted 22 October 2019 - 03:37 PM

In that case I think the suspension is warranted. He was harrassing a native/protected species, which is illegal, and he did it repeatedly after being told not to by the teacher.

#13 AnaBeavenhauser

Posted 22 October 2019 - 03:43 PM

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Edited by AnaBeavenhauser, 22 October 2019 - 07:00 PM.


#14 gettin my fance on

Posted 22 October 2019 - 03:45 PM

 PizzaPlease, on 22 October 2019 - 03:36 PM, said:

I admit, that made me laugh. It sounds like an overreaction to me and I think it's odd that they effectively called you up after school and told you not to bring him in the next day. I wonder what would have happened if you had told them that you had a job interview at 9:30am the next day.

What on earth would having a job interview have to do with anything?

Once a child has been suspended, they are the parents' responsibility to care for during school hours until the end of the suspension.

#15 wallofdodo

Posted 22 October 2019 - 03:45 PM

I am surprised the plovers didn't dish out the punishment.

#16 gettin my fance on

Posted 22 October 2019 - 03:49 PM

 AnaBeavenhauser, on 22 October 2019 - 03:43 PM, said:

I get it and what he did was unacceptable but escalating to suspension without due process is what i am concerned about mostly.

To be honest OP, I think your concern should be your DS's desire and willingness to harass these animals even to the point of repeatedly ignoring directives from a teacher to stop.

That is very worrying behaviour.

#17 PizzaPlease

Posted 22 October 2019 - 03:58 PM

 gettin my fance on, on 22 October 2019 - 03:49 PM, said:

To be honest OP, I think your concern should be your DS's desire and willingness to harass these animals even to the point of repeatedly ignoring directives from a teacher to stop.

That is very worrying behaviour.

Now I think you're overreacting. An 11 year old chased some birds and did not stop when his teacher repeatedly told him to. Clowning around in front of his mates seems like the likely explanation to me. I get that he was misbehaving and that protecting wildlife is important but there really is nothing worrying about that. Kids do silly, irresponsible things all the time.

Edited by PizzaPlease, 22 October 2019 - 04:06 PM.


#18 AnaBeavenhauser

Posted 22 October 2019 - 03:59 PM

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Edited by AnaBeavenhauser, 22 October 2019 - 07:01 PM.


#19 gettin my fance on

Posted 22 October 2019 - 04:02 PM

 PizzaPlease, on 22 October 2019 - 03:58 PM, said:

An 11 year old chased some birds and did not stop when his teacher repeatedly told him to.

Fixed it for you.

#20 mayahlb

Posted 22 October 2019 - 04:02 PM

There will be some sort of formal paperwork. It’s not that easy to suspend a child.

In saying that there have been kids suspended at my kids school for similar behaviour. (WA).

#21 PizzaPlease

Posted 22 October 2019 - 04:04 PM

 gettin my fance on, on 22 October 2019 - 03:45 PM, said:

What on earth would having a job interview have to do with anything?

Once a child has been suspended, they are the parents' responsibility to care for during school hours until the end of the suspension.

I'm just surprised at the apparent urgency of it. In the absence of any physical violence towards staff or other students or anything that threatens safety it seems like it could have been discussed with student and parent the following day and the punishment implemented the following week. Even keeping him in at lunchtime the following day if they were worried about him doing it again. Instead there was no prior discussion at school to bring home to him the seriousness of the situation and then he got a long weekend. I don't really understand the logic.

#22 PizzaPlease

Posted 22 October 2019 - 04:08 PM

 gettin my fance on, on 22 October 2019 - 04:02 PM, said:

Fixed it for you.

I don't really see how that changes the story significantly but since you feel it is important I have updated the original post accordingly.

#23 chicken_bits

Posted 22 October 2019 - 04:12 PM

Yeesh. I wish the safety of teachers were given the same amount of concern as the plovers.

As a high school teacher I was physically injured on numerous occasions by inappropriate behaviour from students and there were absolutely no consequences for the students.

#24 Expelliarmus

Posted 22 October 2019 - 04:31 PM

There is no ‘due process’ for suspension with respect to right of reply or any discussion. Nothing here seems out of process. Student did inappropriate behaviour, suspension was enacted, parent was informed. That’s how it happens.

Edited by Expelliarmus, 22 October 2019 - 04:37 PM.


#25 annodam

Posted 22 October 2019 - 04:43 PM

I am not saying this is the case here by any means.
But so many parents dismiss their kids behaviour as no big deal & the Teacher/Principal/School are all wrong & way OTT with their suspensions, punishments, detentions etc.
I have a son about to turn 11 & I just ran the exact scenario past him just then.
Firstly, he said he wouldn't chase birds (maybe seagulls at the beach) & secondly if he did, he would stop immediately when asked to.
His words at verbatim were:  Why wouldn't I stop?
And no my son is not a perfect angel, let me tell you!




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