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#1 My4beautifulboys

Posted 12 October 2019 - 02:30 PM

My poor Ds (12) has had a bad tummy bug. It started as a fever, then diarrhoea for 3 days. We kept him hydrated and eventually the symptoms lessened. But now day 6 he is going to the toilet and doing normal bowel movements. But he is going more often than normal. We haven’t had gastro in family a great deal. So not so familiar with the length of the virus. I seem to remember reading somewhere that it can take anywhere up to 10 days for it to completely resolve. Is this right for those that have had this horrible thing?


#2 Threelittleducks

Posted 12 October 2019 - 02:39 PM

It can last up to 10 days. Here is the Royal Children's Hospital factsheet. Go and see your GP if concerned, symptoms worsen or persist longer than expected.

Good Luck

https://www.rch.org....teritis_gastro/

#3 Grrrumbles

Posted 12 October 2019 - 04:11 PM

Secondary lactose intolerance could be causing it. I keep my son on low lactose for a week or so after gastro.

#4 PrincessPeach

Posted 12 October 2019 - 04:28 PM

View PostGrrrumbles, on 12 October 2019 - 04:11 PM, said:

Secondary lactose intolerance could be causing it. I keep my son on low lactose for a week or so after gastro.

Echoing this, even for kids who have zero problems with dairy usually.

Probiotics can soemtimes be helpful as well.

#5 Jenflea

Posted 12 October 2019 - 04:28 PM

Make sure he's eating really bland foods ,though I crave salt when sick, so toast with salty butter or vegemite(the only time I eat the stuff) or chicken noodle soup.
Mum swears by grated apple.

#6 My4beautifulboys

Posted 12 October 2019 - 05:02 PM

Thanks for your suggestions and for the link too! He is definitely improving. But at times feels the need to go to the toilet, but doesn’t do anything or just a tiny bit. But it is not diarrhoea now.
Perhaps today being day 6, he will take a few more days gradually return to normal. If not I’ll take him to see the Doctor on Monday.

#7 My4beautifulboys

Posted 23 October 2019 - 09:57 AM

I took Ds to the doctor, as the symptoms were persisting. He requested a stool sample just to make sure nothing nasty. The results came back mostly clear, it is a gastroenteritis bug. He said the symptoms will slowly subside on there own. But the symptoms are still persisting, poor Ds it’s been so long.
Just wondered have you ever had antibiotics prescribed to clear up tummy bugs?

#8 mayahlb

Posted 23 October 2019 - 10:12 AM

Antibiotics won't clear it up, it is a viral infection.

#9 Soontobegran

Posted 23 October 2019 - 10:28 AM

View PostMy4beautifulboys, on 23 October 2019 - 09:57 AM, said:


Just wondered have you ever had antibiotics prescribed to clear up tummy bugs?
Yes they are used sometimes for bacterial gastroenteritis.


#10 Hypnic Jerk

Posted 23 October 2019 - 11:00 AM

View Postmayahlb, on 23 October 2019 - 10:12 AM, said:

Antibiotics won't clear it up, it is a viral infection.

This isn't accurate.  The term gastro is used to describe a cluster of symptoms.  These symptoms can be caused by a range of agents including viruses but also bacteria (eg, salmonellosis, campylobacter) parasites (giardia, cryptosporidia, associated with swimming pools) and bacterial toxins where the body is reacting to the toxins created by the bacteria rather than the bacteria itself.  Eating rice that's been left out is know for this as the Bacillus cereus bug produces a toxin that causes gastro symptoms.  Though these are short-lived.

That the doctor said it's a "gastroenteritis bug" could refer to either bacteria or virus.  Less likely parasites.  You'd need to find out what the actual results are (and I would, because information is power and it will give you a better understanding of what's going on).  You could ring the clinic and just ask for the actual result.

#11 My4beautifulboys

Posted 23 October 2019 - 02:59 PM

From the stool results which came back as a bacterial bug - campylobacteriosis. Which has lingered in for two weeks now. The doctor said that normally it’s not treated with antibiotics and usually clears on it’s own. But seeing as it’s gone on for quite some time, had better have a course of antibiotics to clear it up.
Poor Ds, I had better start him on some probiotics after his course of antibiotics, to help get his gut health back to normal.


#12 born.a.girl

Posted 23 October 2019 - 03:39 PM

View PostMy4beautifulboys, on 23 October 2019 - 02:59 PM, said:

From the stool results which came back as a bacterial bug - campylobacteriosis. Which has lingered in for two weeks now. The doctor said that normally it’s not treated with antibiotics and usually clears on it’s own. But seeing as it’s gone on for quite some time, had better have a course of antibiotics to clear it up.
Poor Ds, I had better start him on some probiotics after his course of antibiotics, to help get his gut health back to normal.


I had non-correcting Campylobacter decades ago - it went on for so long before a diagnosis I was weak from weight loss and did enough damage to my digestive system that I was on a diet of 10 - 12 items (items, not food groups) for a few months.

Good idea with the gut health, and good luck to him with the recovery.

#13 My4beautifulboys

Posted 23 October 2019 - 08:51 PM

Born.a.girl  thanks I also hope things improve now. It sounds like a really nasty one. Do you mean that it wasn’t diagnosed or is it some thing that can go on for a long time? What sort of foods were you allowed to eat, that must have been very difficult, especially for months! Are you fine now

#14 born.a.girl

Posted 24 October 2019 - 06:33 AM

View PostMy4beautifulboys, on 23 October 2019 - 08:51 PM, said:

Born.a.girl  thanks I also hope things improve now. It sounds like a really nasty one. Do you mean that it wasn’t diagnosed or is it some thing that can go on for a long time? What sort of foods were you allowed to eat, that must have been very difficult, especially for months! Are you fine now


I suspect they are quicker now to try to establish exactly what it is you've got (perhaps for health dept stats?), but I wasn't actually tested for anything until I go to a gastroenterologist, which was ages after it started.

Initially told all the usual things, still to liquids (made it worse) etc etc.  Once I got to gastroenterologist he suspected something else but ordered the tests, and called me, and rang through the antibiotic script to the chemist - oh the relief when they started to work.

From memory the foods were (quite an odd list)

Broiled!!!! chicken
Clear apples juice (not cloudy)
Cornflakes
Soy milk
Potato - no seasonings
Green tea


No oils, salt, pepper, seasonings, tea, coffee


Sorry, that's as far as i can remember, it would have been late 80s. I had to be on that for a few months to heal the gut. I got quite inventive, would reduce some apple juice then pan fry the chicken in that.  I made Pritikin (the no oil guru of the time) chips in the oven (that took an hour).

The only long term hangover is that I can't eat a full banana or avocado or I get a bellyache, but half is fine.


I think anyone now turning up to a GP with gastro symptoms for more than a week would be tested immediately, so probably unlikely to happen unless someone didn't have easy access to a GP.

I believe it IS uncommon for it not to self-correct, but I have a messy health history and tend to specialise in uncommon. :)

Hope your boy picks up fast with the medication.

#15 My4beautifulboys

Posted 24 October 2019 - 02:13 PM

Thanks yes I’m sure he will now. It seems to have affected him badly to have lasted this long a time. Sorry to hear that you had to deal with that, it must have felt like it a terribly long time, going on for months. Good that you have not too much lasting effects from it now though.
When we first visit the doctor after he’d had the symptoms for two weeks, the doctor just said that it should resolve itself without medication. He didn’t seem to think it was really important that we had the stool sample done. But I knew that for peace of mind I would get it done. I’m glad that I did as it definitely was something. And to have the ongoing effects lingering on, i felt it was time to act on it.
The next doctor we saw, understood my concern and also agreed that it was time to start the medication to clear it up.

#16 born.a.girl

Posted 24 October 2019 - 02:34 PM

Hmm, maybe my GP is just faster to act with me then. I have a bit of a messy medical history, with one condition I had for 18 years giving me Ulcerative Colitis (now disappeared) plus a few intolerances (mainly manageable), but then I had an issue about six years ago, which would come and go, tested a number of times and nothing came up - as GP said they don't test for everything.  It didn't fit any categories - no one else in the house ever caught it.

Then I had foot surgery and was advised to take preventative antibiotics - urk, I asked, and was told that it was really important to take them.  Within hours WW3 had started in my digestive system (pain), had to cancel going out to dinner. Then after three hours the pain started to subside, and by the next day, the problem was gone.

As the GP said, had to be a bacterial infection of some sort, and the antibiotic wasn't even one that was normally used for gut bacterial infections, but it worked!

Curious, and having too my time on my hands, I did a lot of googling and came up with an uncommon bug that's commonly got from organic lettuce, and the symptoms (I'll spare you the details) matched perfectly.  I never used to wash those lettuce packs that say already washed, now I'm thorough!

A happy bowel makes for a happy human. :)

Let's know how he goes.

#17 Hypnic Jerk

Posted 24 October 2019 - 07:02 PM

What bug was that BAG?

#18 born.a.girl

Posted 24 October 2019 - 07:22 PM

View PostHypnic Jerk, on 24 October 2019 - 07:02 PM, said:

What bug was that BAG?


I wish I knew!  I kept the link to the article for a while then deleted it.  It took me quite a while to find it, then quite a while to remember to write it down for the GP.  After that I deleted it, and was a bit obsessive with lettuce!


Haven't been able to find it with some simple googling today, and it did take me quite a while to find it at the time.


I think it's worth remembering that our bodies manage to fight off most things, most times, but if your body has been in the wars generally (as I said, I have a messy health history) then you're more likely to succumb to something that most people manage to fight off.

Since a major health condition was cured, I'm now like most people, have a touch of the hurry ups for a day or two, then it's gone.

#19 Prancer is coming

Posted 25 October 2019 - 03:38 PM

I had what your son had.  It is horrid.  I think I ended up at the hospital I was so sick, and that is why I had a stool sample and got a diagnosis.  In the state I live in, it is a notifiable disease.  So I got a call from the health department.  It is often associated with under cooked chicken.  I could clearly identify what I had eaten to get it (thanks DH!).

#20 born.a.girl

Posted 25 October 2019 - 05:31 PM

View PostPrancer is coming, on 25 October 2019 - 03:38 PM, said:

I had what your son had.  It is horrid.  I think I ended up at the hospital I was so sick, and that is why I had a stool sample and got a diagnosis.  In the state I live in, it is a notifiable disease.  So I got a call from the health department.  It is often associated with under cooked chicken.  I could clearly identify what I had eaten to get it (thanks DH!).


Yeah, I'd had chicken for lunch the day it started too. Funnily enough it was what I ate after that, that I was burping all afternoon before serious symptoms hit, that I was put off for months.  The irony of chicken being one of the things I could eat later!  I'm a bit paranoid about it all though - the handling of raw chicken and then making sure the chicken is cooked.

Did you know freezing kills campylobacter?

#21 Dianalynch

Posted 25 October 2019 - 06:03 PM

DS had bacterial gastro when he was a toddler, he had to have antibiotics to clear it up, it didn’t improve on it’s own.

Edited by Dianalynch, 25 October 2019 - 06:03 PM.


#22 purplekitty

Posted 25 October 2019 - 06:14 PM

Salmonella,Yersinia and E.Coli have all been found contaminating lettuce and leading to outbreaks.




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