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#51 MooGuru

Posted 09 October 2019 - 12:48 PM

View PostQuick hedgehog, on 09 October 2019 - 12:24 PM, said:



Isn't this the point though?  That while he did say those words, it may have been in completely different circumstances than was depicted?
He didn't deny saying it that night like that. He said that it had been a really long night and the reactions from the other contestants were taken out of context and it didn't show him coming back to say good bye to them. So essentially the editing was the suggestion the other contestants were shocked/appalled at his behaviour was fabricated to create drama.
He's really not denying his behaviour  towards her at all.

** for the record I think I only saw one or two episodes that season and didn't remember him at all till this thread.

#52 CallMeFeral

Posted 09 October 2019 - 09:26 PM

View PostMessyJ, on 07 October 2019 - 09:35 PM, said:

But it was his boss wasn't it? And giving advice not just of one company, but of the entire industry he worked for. I guess the gamble of thinking he knew better than her when it came to what was best for his career did not pay off...

I read it as being one of the agents he uses rather than his boss. I could be wrong.

View PostTokra, on 07 October 2019 - 09:59 PM, said:

He made a choice and it turned to sh*t. He has to take responsibility for his part in that. Doesn't mean he is a bad person. Just means he made a sh*t decision, against all advice. It's not victim blaming.

Victim blaming would be if I said that all the online bullying was his fault - which I expressly said was not his fault and not okay.

Right so if a girl walks across a park alone at night rather than accepting a lift from a friend, and we point out that she has to take responsibility for that decision turning to sh*t - that's not victim blaming either? As long as we also say they are not a bad person and that their subsequent attack is not their fault?

Because for me, that's what I'd consider victim blaming. YMMV.

#53 MooGuru

Posted 09 October 2019 - 10:46 PM

View PostCallMeFeral, on 09 October 2019 - 09:26 PM, said:



I read it as being one of the agents he uses rather than his boss. I could be wrong.



Right so if a girl walks across a park alone at night rather than accepting a lift from a friend, and we point out that she has to take responsibility for that decision turning to sh*t - that's not victim blaming either? As long as we also say they are not a bad person and that their subsequent attack is not their fault?

Because for me, that's what I'd consider victim blaming. YMMV.

I disagree. He made a strategic career decision against the very strong advice of his manager/agent.
I don't think that's comparable to a woman being raped because she walked through a park at night.

Eta to clarify: his goal for going into the show was to get a career in television. He was advised it was likely to be a bad career move by the person he pays to advise his career decisions (I assume that's what an agent's role is).

Edited by MooGuru, 09 October 2019 - 10:50 PM.


#54 Ellie bean

Posted 10 October 2019 - 12:00 AM

View PostCallMeFeral, on 09 October 2019 - 09:26 PM, said:



I read it as being one of the agents he uses rather than his boss. I could be wrong.



Right so if a girl walks across a park alone at night rather than accepting a lift from a friend, and we point out that she has to take responsibility for that decision turning to sh*t - that's not victim blaming either? As long as we also say they are not a bad person and that their subsequent attack is not their fault?

Because for me, that's what I'd consider victim blaming. YMMV.
Nope because if the girl stayed home she could have been attabked or whatever anyway- isn’t that rape culture, the idea yiu can prevent it?
Dude could have not damaged his career by not going on reality tv.
I do agree he shouldn’t be blamed for being trolled/ bullied. There’s no excuse for that.

Edited by Ellie bean, 10 October 2019 - 12:01 AM.


#55 IamOzgirl

Posted 12 October 2019 - 08:59 AM

So was Jess heavily edited?

#56 Chchgirl

Posted 12 October 2019 - 09:22 AM

My bullcrap red flag detector  (which may I say is correct a great amount of the time) says even with editing the guy has the creepy vibe. Jess , that is.

It would be very miraculous if all the guys calling him out for his behaviour had been edited in to make him seem bad.

Edited by Chchgirl, 12 October 2019 - 09:24 AM.


#57 MooGuru

Posted 12 October 2019 - 11:55 AM

View PostIamOzgirl, on 12 October 2019 - 08:59 AM, said:

So was Jess heavily edited?

He hasn't said he was. Which surprised me as that's what everyone always says.

#58 Murderino

Posted 12 October 2019 - 12:04 PM

View PostMooGuru, on 12 October 2019 - 11:55 AM, said:

He hasn't said he was. Which surprised me as that's what everyone always says.

I have seen an article about the mayor of his council asking him to step down as a councillor as he has brought the council in to disrepute.

In that he says “I’m not that guy” but doesn’t say he didn’t say it all, just kind of seems to say he thought he was bringing some fun. If you thought that then you are that guy.

I don’t watch the show but for some reason saw the guys telling him off then her kicking him out (she seemed to have had a few too many, it seemed she was slurring a bit but maybe that’s her natural speech) and from what she said and what I saw him say in an ad about getting wandering hands he seemed off.

#59 Chocolate Addict

Posted 12 October 2019 - 03:00 PM

I read an article with him saying they guy on Batchelorette, he was just being light hearted and jovial, mucking around. Obviously his version of mucking around is not the same as most.
He didn't say he was badly edited or anything.

I don't watch the show but I do like Angie and of course this made the news.

#60 kimasa

Posted 13 October 2019 - 08:53 AM

Moving away from the Bachelorette slightly, years ago I worked with someone who got pretty far into the auditions of The Biggest Loser. This was back before Tiffiny and Commando, so one of the first couple of seasons.
He pulled out when he got the consent forms for all the medications they would have him on to assist his "journey". Among other things, the contestants were on laxatives for the entire duration of filming, which is why they dropped the weight so fast.

#61 Riotproof

Posted 13 October 2019 - 09:03 AM

Oh really! That’s terrible. I hated that show because of all the temptation challenges.

#62 Nozycat

Posted 13 October 2019 - 09:56 AM

View Postkimasa, on 13 October 2019 - 08:53 AM, said:

Moving away from the Bachelorette slightly, years ago I worked with someone who got pretty far into the auditions of The Biggest Loser. This was back before Tiffiny and Commando, so one of the first couple of seasons.
He pulled out when he got the consent forms for all the medications they would have him on to assist his "journey". Among other things, the contestants were on laxatives for the entire duration of filming, which is why they dropped the weight so fast.
Wow that is awful.

#63 Chocolate Addict

Posted 13 October 2019 - 10:26 AM

And people wonder why most of them put weight on when they left. Goodness knows what it did to their bodies.

I admit I watched TBL but there was a lot of things I didn't like about the show.

#64 MooGuru

Posted 13 October 2019 - 01:43 PM

Yeah I never watched TBL but then I don't really like those sorts of shows. I feel like they are more insidious than things like the Bachelor or cooking shows re exploiting vulnerable people.

#65 WaitForMe

Posted 13 October 2019 - 02:03 PM

View Postkimasa, on 13 October 2019 - 08:53 AM, said:

Moving away from the Bachelorette slightly, years ago I worked with someone who got pretty far into the auditions of The Biggest Loser. This was back before Tiffiny and Commando, so one of the first couple of seasons.
He pulled out when he got the consent forms for all the medications they would have him on to assist his "journey". Among other things, the contestants were on laxatives for the entire duration of filming, which is why they dropped the weight so fast.

I've heard the filming is over a much longer period of time, so the weigh ins are seen to be (I assume) weekly, but are more like, say, fortnightly or monthly.

#66 22Fruitmincepies

Posted 13 October 2019 - 04:15 PM

I know a couple who found love on reality tv, but it wasn’t a love show. It was very funny to read about their relationship in new idea while waiting for burgers one night.

#67 Chocolate Addict

Posted 13 October 2019 - 04:50 PM

View PostWaitForMe, on 13 October 2019 - 02:03 PM, said:

I've heard the filming is over a much longer period of time, so the weigh ins are seen to be (I assume) weekly, but are more like, say, fortnightly or monthly.

Yeah a lot of ex contestants have said it is usually between 10 - 14 days or more between weigh ins

#68 Chocolate Addict

Posted 22 October 2019 - 02:42 PM

This just came up on my newsfeed. An ex contestant from House Rules sued for psychological injury after being portrayed as a bully.

https://www.geelonga...8899637894f53ef




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