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Posted 30 October 2019 - 04:47 PM
Yay. Just saw our OB again this afternoon. He has told me to finish off the last needles in my current progesterone needles pack and then stop them. Finally - I have 8 days of injections left. My legs will appreciate that so much as I have bruises on bruises. We even have had a couple this week that have spurted blood which was messy and gross.
So glad to have an end point for them. Everything else will start to wean off at 12 weeks.
How is everyone else going?
Posted 30 October 2019 - 08:03 PM
That’s great news Gabbitz - I don’t know how I’d go giving injections into my legs for that long let alone the blood squirting!
We have our FS appointment next Wednesday - We’re hoping to jump straight back into another round of IVF if he allows us to.
Posted 31 October 2019 - 10:28 AM
Gabbitz - that's great that you have finished with the needles. So nice to get rid of all that stuff!
BeachesBaby - sounds like things are going well, I hope you are enjoying the feeling, and not just anxious.
Andi - 60+ follicles. That's a lot! Finding the balance between getting a good number of mature eggs and not developing OHSS. Fingers-crossed you're feeling okay.
AFM - not pregnant and AF probably due to start any second. I feel nothing, which sounds (and feels) awful. I know if it were a BFP my anxiety would be extreme - so it's weird, because I suspect I'm coping with a negative better than I would a positive. Which makes me feel like a bad person and that I don't want it enough... Bad brain. Oh well, I'll start the next round soon I guess.
Posted 02 November 2019 - 12:48 PM
Oh I’m sorry Miss HLH. It’s ok to not feel anything about what’s happened. Everyone processes differently. How you process what you’re going through doesn’t mean you don’t want it enough or anything like that.
Are you going to try again immediately? Or wait til after Christmas? Do you have any more stored embies to do a FET?
Hope you’re feeling ok now.
Hey Andi and Bumbleflop. How are you guys going? I hope you’ve both been able to get the stuff about your cycles sorted out and meds working well.
Posted 03 November 2019 - 02:14 AM
MSDC- I’m so sorry that must be so frustrating to get nothing out of it. Are you taking COQ10 for egg and sperm quality?
Andi- that’s so random but I’ve just had the same issue with this cycle. Same oestrogen protocol each time but last time I barely hit 1000 and this time I’m up to 7000!! FS has no idea why either.
Beaches- so glad your little one has snuggled in tight!!
Gabbitz- yay for no more needles!!! Certainly something to celebrate!
MissHLH- I’m sorry you do really want it and that’s why you put yourself through all of this but you are just protecting yourself so don’t feel bad you feel nothing. If you think about it too much then the feels ain’t great! Hope you can do another cycle ASAP.
AFM- had my FET yesterday. Did acupuncture before and after and I highly recommend that just to get into a calm space. I felt so much more relaxed than my last one. I’ve had cramping all day though and diarrhoea again just like last time ughhhh dunno why!! Gotta wait til next Monday to see if it worked. Been bombarded with pregnancy announcements this week including an oopsie...really struggling with the congratulations and happy face..
Posted 03 November 2019 - 12:35 PM
Bumble, I hated acupuncture :-(
I did a lot of pre conception stuff the last time, and the cycle that worked, I was taking nothing! Did no acupuncture. And I ovulated early!
So weird - but should give you guys hope!
Posted 03 November 2019 - 05:45 PM
Haha I was actually like why am I doing this when the acupuncture started but it definitely calmed me down and reduced my stress levels. I think this being my second FET helped too...knew what to expect. I’m smashing down the pineapple and Brazil nuts too, just for good measure lol i hate being in the mindset of assuming it hasn’t stuck though, I’ve never seen a positive so I’m just like why would I see one now? 🤷♀️
Posted 03 November 2019 - 05:53 PM
Yeah nah, I get claustrophobic with it (not being able to move) def gets me angsty!
Posted 06 November 2019 - 08:32 AM
I've done acupuncture for years Bumbleflop! I enjoy it, I find it relaxing. It helps with my energy levels and bladder too. I go regularly where I live, and at my previous clinic I would go to the place down the road that they recommended before and after transfer. I'll have to suss out if there's one associated with my new clinic. Also with subsequent attempts/pregnancies it's a good chance for a quiet rest! I get you on the happy face too, it can be so hard. I used to hate people telling me they were pregnant in person. Hopefully yours will be the next announcement!
Yay for stopping needles Gabbitz! Hopefully the bruising clears soon. I've got a whopper on my belly at the moment.
I hope your appointment goes well today MSDC and your FS lets you get going again, waiting just sucks.
MissHLH I'm so sorry your cycle didn't work out. And don't feel bad for your reactions, it sounds like a coping mechanism, we get it. Hope you can get going again soon.
AFM, I'm on day 21 and still stimming! Follicles are growing, just slowly still. I'm having BTs and scans every second day. Off for today's scan now! They're thinking egg collection early next week, although with every phone call I'm bracing myself for the cycle to be cancelled.
Posted 06 November 2019 - 11:29 AM
Andi I really hope your scan showed some good follicle news! After 21 days of stimming the last thing you want is a cancellation Hope your bruising doesn’t start to multiply all over your tummy!
I’m off to another acupuncture session now, considering testing Friday which I think is 7dp6dt....or I wait for bloods on 10dp6dt...ughhh feeling nothing
Posted 06 November 2019 - 04:30 PM
I have one follicle up around the size they want now (19mm) and a few a bit smaller. If those have caught up by Friday, I'll have egg collection on Monday. If they haven't, the cycle will be cancelled and I'll start again in a couple of weeks at the higher dose. So over it all! I feel like the universe is telling me no more, but I just can't.
Posted 06 November 2019 - 04:41 PM
Andi - that's a long time to stim. I guess with lots of follicles they need more time? I'm crossing my fingers they don't cancel.
Bumbleflop - it would be too early to feel anything, so don't worry about that, it doesn't mean anything. I've always found it easier to wait (in non-IVF times), because then I still have hope... So hard...
As for me - well, the disappointment well and truely kicked in and I've been feeling really bad. So the last few days have really been a struggle. On top of that my period started on the day of my blood test (Thursday), so I rang the clinic. There were no new orders, probably the doctor hadn't even seen the blood results at that stage, so no surprise. Ring back the next day, still no orders, but don't stress, don't need to do anything with a FET just yet... Then late Friday the doctor rings and asks if I wanted to do another stim cycle straight away, which I agreed to. I don't know why. So then I need to go in on Saturday for the meds, told to book a scan for Wednesday. But the doctor was closed on Monday and Tuesday for Melbourne Cup, so eventually booked elsewhere for the scan. Went in today, and there are no referals for the scan. So then I need to run around for that. So stressful and overwhelming. Anyway, 7 follicles this time (last time I had 5 on the left and 1 on the right, this time I have 5 on the right and 2 (v small) on the left). I have another scan on Friday and probably collection on Monday...
Next time I wouldn't do back to back cycles. I didn't have much of a chance to think about it in advance, and I've just felt overwhelmed. Anyway, at least there hasn't been much waiting I guess...
Andi - give those follicles a stern talking to! They can do it!
Posted 06 November 2019 - 04:54 PM
Miss HLH, sorry to hear that everything is all stressful. That really doesn’t help much does it!? I hope this cycle goes well for you.
Andi, that’s sounds like you’ve got some follicles on their way to being good. I hope that they grow well in the next couple of days so that all the pain so far is worth it!
Hey Bumbleflop, I felt nothing with my son (first pregnancy) so not feeling anything doesn’t indicate anything at the moment. There are so many different possibilities for what you might or might not feel, that almost anything can be construed either as a pregnancy symptom or not. We tried acupuncture during one of our early IVF cycles too and whilst the cycle didn’t work (stupid endo!) I certainly felt much better and less stressed. I hope that helps for you too. I would however hold off as long as you can before testing as that little bit of held onto hope can go a long way to getting you through the tww.
Posted 07 November 2019 - 10:41 AM
It’s weird MissLHL, I usually respond very quickly, so it’s a balancing act between getting enough follicles to size and having too many which poses the risk of OHSS. A couple of months ago I had 19 eggs collected on day 12!
I’m expecting it to be cancelled, so hopefully I won’t be too disappointed if that happens. And if it doesn’t happen then I can be pleasantly surprised. I wouldn’t want to go through retrieval if there aren’t enough though!
I’m sorry you had such a stressful start to your cycle too! It’s so hard to make decisions on the spot. At least you will get it all in before the Christmas shutdown, that’s a positive to look at.
Bumbleflop I can never tell from symptoms or lack thereof whether a cycle has worked – I have been convinced each way and been wrong! I’ve tried early and frequent testing and not testing before BT. I’ve settled on doing a test the afternoon before my BT, to give myself time to come to terms with the result but not leave a lot of room for interpretation. By that stage if it’s negative or a squinter I know it’s not going to be high enough at the BT (from past experience). Wishing you lots of luck!
Posted 08 November 2019 - 12:18 PM
Andi- omg I really hope for your sake your follicles were looking amazing this morning 🤞🤞 totally understand not wanting to do the collection if there aren’t many though considering you have had so many in the past. I’d be in that same boat, I know my body responds well so I want lots to make up for the effort and pain!! Hopefully your specialist has learnt from this cycle to have more success from the next if needed 🤞
MissHLH- your clinic sounds as organised as mine! Ughh how stressful! I know you probably feel like poo doing another cycle straight away but get right back on that horse and get it over with ☺️ Wishing you all the best for success this time 🤞🤞
Gabbitz- how are you going? Feeling ok now that the injections etc have stopped?
Sooooo I was a good girl and I didn’t test today. Sunday will be the day before the blood test Monday. I’m actually hopeful of a BFP now and I think I’ll be even more shattered if it’s not. Had heartburn last night (don’t usually get it), woke up with sickly feeling really low down in my pelvis and lower back ache. My tits have been so sore this cycle but has now dropped off a bit but definitely not in the come hug me tight category. I think I’m equivalent of 12DPO....this better be it 🤞🤞🤞🤞
Posted 08 November 2019 - 12:55 PM
Oh Bumbleflop! The very first sign of my first successful pg was heartburn... I'm really hoping this is it for you! Hurry up Monday!
My FS rang before to say we're not going ahead with retrieval as there are only 3 follicles of size, and the rest are quite a bit smaller. BUT because there are only 3, she said we can trigger and try naturally. I've never done that before, if we'd ever tried to get 1-3 follicles for this purpose I'm sure we wouldn't have been able to! So it would be a shame to waste the opportunity. I'm starting prednisolone, progesterone and clexane just in case.
That should keep me distracted anyway, then when AF arrives I'll start again with a 'flexible antagonist' cycle. So I'll start on a higher dose of pergoveris (112.5) and won't start orgalutran until a follicle is 13mm.
I hope everyone else is doing well!
Posted 08 November 2019 - 04:00 PM
Oh Andi, that’s disappointing. Do they’d understand what went weird this cycle? Although good news if they reckon trying naturally after triggering. I hope that works!
Bumbleflop, that certainly sounds great having different symptoms. Can’t say for certain, but heartburn is certainly one of my symptoms too - but it kicked in later (at about 7 weeks). I hope you get your bfp!
AFM, I’m not off everything yet, which is a shame, but I have had my last progesterone injection (still going with Clexane). I stay on the clexane til my dose so of everything else drops down. We’re ramping down prednisone and now that I’ve stopped the progesterone injections, I ramp down the progesterone tablets, then the pessaries, then I start to drop off the estrogen.
I’m now 10.5 weeks and seem to be doing ok. I’ve had quite a few checks already because I’m considered a high risk pregnancy because of my history. Hoping to drop off the frequency during the second trimester.
Posted 08 November 2019 - 04:46 PM
Sorry it’s cancelled Andi ☹️ Great that you can still try naturally though! Is IUI an option or not worth the expense given you are already on the IVF track for a reason? I have everything crossed that you get a natural little miracle!! I’m curious how your body is going to feel ovulating lots of eggs, if it’s different to a collection 🤔 hopefully you feel up to lots of BD!
Gabbitz how high was your prednisone to start with? I’m on 10mg/day which they want me to stop if it’s BFN and start up again after FET but I’m going to ask/beg to stay on it the whole cycle. Did u get a round face/add a few kilos on it? I feel like I’m retaining water and eating like a horse. I’ve done my research and seen what happens when prednisone is stopped without a taper so I’ll be extra demanding about my dosages lol
I’m scared I won’t be considered high risk so won’t get the attention my body seems to need...hoping I have an OB that takes high ANA and endo seriously. Fingers crossed I get to start exploring that very soon!!
What exactly does the Clexane do? Similar to aspirin?
Posted 08 November 2019 - 05:03 PM
I’ve been on 25mg prednisone. Yes I’ve had the moonface and put weight on. I was really glad when I went back to work that I didn’t have to take a new photo - I could use my original photo for my security tag. Significant difference for my face!
The clexane is in addition to aspirin! But because I’ve been on such high doses of everything (prednisone, progesterone and estrogen) the risk of a blood clot is supposedly quite high, so the clexane in my case is actually clot mitigation rather than any specific IVF thing. Also because I had a hematoma during my first pregnancy, so they were concerned that I might clot again this time.
In some cases people can come off prednisone easily, but we’ve found that I can’t do that. I end up with splitting headaches, nausea, dizziness etc. my first doctor used to drop 5mg every 3 days, but that was too quick for me. I have to do 2.5mg every 4-5 days. I’ve also heard of others who have to drop 1mg every week, so it depends. But it’s a drug that kind of needs to stabilise in you’re body. I’ve always been told that if I were doing back to back treatments, that’s it’s better to stay on prednisone. Your clinic might have a different opinion though, so check with them perhaps. Although I hope you don’t have to worry about it!
Posted 08 November 2019 - 07:30 PM
Andi - so sorry your cycle is canceled but also kind of exciting you get to try on your own. 3 follicles should give you a good chance, we’ll be crossing our fingers!
Afm - I had my 7w scan today, and we got good news. I really wanted just an internal, because I have a retroverted uterus and the last time with my mc they couldn’t see anything abdominally, which was really stressful, so I asked for an internal but she said they always start with an abdominal first. I was just staring at the ceiling, willing the heart palpitations away, I’ve been so anxious all week - and then she just said it “congratulations, I see a heartbeat.” And I looked at the screen and there it was, lit up in red and blue, for real. The baby is measuring 7w0d with a heartbeat of 151, I’d had my date as 7w2d, but the clinic says 7w1d, and either way I’m not concerned about it being 2 days off. I’m happy to call that a margin of error.
I don’t feel out of the woods just yet, but I am so relieved, and so incredibly grateful. Last time we barely saw a tiny flicker on the ivf clinic’s fuzzy ultrasound. This time we could clearly see the outline of the baby, and the blood pulsing through the heart. Sorry for giving so many details but I’m still in a bit of shock that it’s real. I never saw us getting good news today, and I’m still feeling a bit giddy over it. I also think it’s finally hit for my husband. He’s been acting like everything is normal, and just now he asked if I think it’s a boy or a girl
Posted 08 November 2019 - 07:41 PM
Beaches - wow. That’s exciting news. Seeing bub is such a wonderful feeling. I’m so glad you got such good news today!
Posted 08 November 2019 - 09:51 PM
Congrats beaches 😍😍😍 I hope you can start to relax and enjoy being pregnant ☺️
Posted 09 November 2019 - 07:58 PM
I’m noticing some brown patches on my face...like freckles but also surrounding skin in a blob. I’m guessing it’s from all the hormones I’ve had pumping through me the past few months ☹️ Anyone else had this happen? Does it go away? ☹️
Posted 10 November 2019 - 12:22 PM
I just saw 2 lines for the first time ever in 3 years of trying!!!! 😱😱😱😱😱 OMG this doesn’t happen to us?!? 😱😱 even though I’ve had some symptoms I still thought it was all in my head!!
First hurdle over, finally 😍 thanks for all the support to get us to this point ladies 😘 fingers crossed it’s smooth sailing from here 🤞🤞🤞
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