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#76 Amica

Posted 19 September 2019 - 09:22 PM

That article above was all so familiar to me. Not because I have personal experience with the family courts, but because it is word for word the experiences of my close friends and the horrendous things they have shared with me. Everything from perpatrator friendly family court writers, mothers too scared too tell the judge about child abuse in fear of losing their children, women told 'you are just as bad as each other' when DV is discussed.

So many women have no choice to represent themselves too, whilst the fathers turn up with expensive lawyers.

#77 limakilo

Posted 19 September 2019 - 10:36 PM

We went to court through those years of 2004-8 where the law was changing and has been referenced in many articles about this.
I was a stepmum supporting a Dad (please don't rip me apart, I am not #notallmen-ing) and the things both parties were told by court officials, lawyers, counsellors etc was ridiculous.
There was no effort to protect children that I could see, and I tried to offer so much support for anyone involved.
It was all about how to play a very expensive game, and when we didn't want to buy into it, it was even harder.

Blaming women for this is horrendous and it also does nothing to help the good Dads out there trying their best for their kids.
Is that who she thinks she is helping? Or kids?
What does she think her foul cries will achieve?
There are already findings about the family court and the government is wasting money on this!

Pauline horrifies me and her idiocy does nothing to help anyone. The whole family court system needs to come down from the top.

#78 gruidae

Posted 19 September 2019 - 10:53 PM

View Post~LemonMyrtle~, on 19 September 2019 - 01:03 PM, said:

The more I read about this enquiry the more appalled I am becoming. OMG, the entire thing is a witch hunt to find these mythical lying women who are ruining men’s lives.

God I hope they find the exact opposite and it all blows up in their faces.
They will find the exact opposite. That's not how it will be heard though.
Unfortunately, they'll only need to find one or two examples to act on it versus the many hundreds of womens' stories.

Same story with every less powerful group right now. All Islamic people must apologise for one or two extremists , that one guy who skited in the media about spending Centrelink on drugs proves all income support recipients are doing it, the one gay couple who adopted and abused their child, young people were responsible for the Qld fires so how dare they go on a climate stirke, etc

Nothing less than 100% saintliness from all members from any scapegoated group will do

Honestly, socially speaking it feels like the walls are closing in on every single group with less power with exactly the same tactics.

#79 livingos

Posted 20 September 2019 - 05:59 PM

From the arrive posted earlier.
"One area that we’re specifically looking at, which hasn’t really been done before, has been looking at the role of grandparents in all of this because they get involved in custody issues. As these issues get more complex, it’s always timely to look at this.”

Not just she stopped my son seeing his kids but ME seeing MY grandkids. Again another point for her removing herself and her bias.

Why would you want to send your kids to the people who created and continue to support your eemed unfit by the court ex?

Anyway it was a bit burried in the discussion  but seems way to close yo home for her to be leading this inquiry.

#80 ~LemonMyrtle~

Posted 20 September 2019 - 06:47 PM

View Postlivingos, on 20 September 2019 - 05:59 PM, said:

From the arrive posted earlier.
"One area that we’re specifically looking at, which hasn’t really been done before, has been looking at the role of grandparents in all of this because they get involved in custody issues. As these issues get more complex, it’s always timely to look at this.”

Not just she stopped my son seeing his kids but ME seeing MY grandkids. Again another point for her removing herself and her bias.

Why would you want to send your kids to the people who created and continue to support your eemed unfit by the court ex?

Anyway it was a bit burried in the discussion  but seems way to close yo home for her to be leading this inquiry.

Yeah, grandparents often have a big role to play, and sometimes they are the permanent carers for kids, but it always worries me when courts start making visits mandatory and include them in custody arrangements. Doesn’t sit right with me.

Edited by ~LemonMyrtle~, 20 September 2019 - 06:48 PM.


#81 IamtheMumma

Posted 20 September 2019 - 09:29 PM

If Pauline gets her way, there will be a lot more people on the lam.  I'm sure an underground already exists. Wish I knew an access point to help provide for it.

Pauline, apparently, made a comment recently that parents needed to discipline their children better. As a mother of two convicted criminals, she's a fine one to talk.

#82 Amica

Posted 21 September 2019 - 01:31 AM

Can't help but think she has outed her son as a potential child sex offender. Just because he wasn't charged, doesn't mean he didn't do it. Just that there was no evidence that he did it.

That poor woman having this maggot as her mother in law.

#83 Lunafreya

Posted 21 September 2019 - 06:39 AM

Very good article. Says parents do not have rights. Only children do

https://abc.net.au/n...essary/11532074

Edited by Lunafreya, 21 September 2019 - 06:40 AM.


#84 MerryMadrigalMadge

Posted 21 September 2019 - 08:24 AM

https://www.theage.c...920-p52tes.html

David Leser wrote a profile piece on Pauline 20 years ago, and in this article sums up how wilfully idiotic this appointment is.

Interestingly, given we are empathising with being her DIL, at the time of David writing his original article, one of Pauline's sons was being raised by her MIL, a Dachau survivor who was terrified Pauline was going to deport her.

https://www.theage.c...920-p52tes.html

#85 MerryMadrigalMadge

Posted 21 September 2019 - 08:33 AM

And another article, just focusing on how dumb a political  move this was by Morrison.

https://www.theguard...ights-activists

It’s also a political misjudgement that I suspect the prime minister will come to regret. Why on earth would you hand Hanson (who exists to peel off elements of the disaffected Liberal and National party base) a genuine barbecue stopper when her visibility has been low in recent times?

Hanson for some time has looked like a populist decoupled from an ignition point, and rather than let her drift into querulous obscurity you, the prime minister, choose to refresh her purpose?

Given the Liberals and Nationals tear themselves apart on social questions with only a minimum of encouragement – cue the abortion sh*tshow in New South Wales – has Morrison somehow missed the risk that this particular line of inquiry could also be a lightning rod inside his own partyroom? Does he think that doesn’t matter because he can keep a lid on it?

#86 ~LemonMyrtle~

Posted 21 September 2019 - 08:51 AM

I have a bad feeling this will actually win Morrison more votes than lose. And win Hanson votes too, which ultimately helps the Liberals.

Domestic violence seems like a hidden thing. People don’t know the extent of it or how bad it is. I don’t know the extent of it. I have no idea how bad it is. But I know enough to realise this inquiry is a farce.

But there are many other people like me, men and women, who have no idea, and may well agree with Hanson. Like certain sheltered people I know who think Pell is innocent, despite the evidence and conviction. They wouldn’t have a clue about the family law courts. They already vote Liberal I suppose, so that won’t change, sadly. But there are plenty like them that won’t change either.

#87 Amica

Posted 21 September 2019 - 08:53 AM

He must be getting votes on something really significant in return. I hate to think what that might be. Watch this space.

#88 Lucrezia Bauble

Posted 21 September 2019 - 09:04 AM

yeh sadly i agree LM.

i got a glimpse into the other side recently - a guy who i knew via a previous job - years ago - almost 15 years ago friended me on FB ....over the years he posted infrequently ...fairly innocuous stuff, pics of kids etc...over time it was evident his marriage had broken down...which is sad, you know, sad for all involved but these things happen....anyway his posts became more detailed, evidently there was a custody dispute..other stuff, i probably shouldn’t go into too much detail but my god...the hatred and vitriol he would spew forth about his ex, the “system” - he would call it the “wicked family court” - the lies and misinformation - he’d post these you tube videos and false stats - the false suicide stat got repeated frequently...he is ecstatic about this Inquiry - Pauline Hanson is his Joan of Arc...coming to save him from the wicked family court judges and solicitors who dare act for women in these proceedings. i’ve unfriended him - and i had half a mind to try to find his ex (who i don’t know at all) on FB to warn her but....i don’t really know how to find her and i’m sure she knows. i just hope she and the children are safe.


#89 Meepy

Posted 21 September 2019 - 09:24 AM

Another article - opinion piece but we should all be uprising about the attacks on women's rights by this 1800s minded government.  https://thenewdaily....News - 20190921

Edited by Meepy, 21 September 2019 - 09:25 AM.


#90 BadCat

Posted 21 September 2019 - 09:42 AM

Once a year women's march is all very nice, but I'm getting a bit jack of the wilful misogyny in this country trying to push us backwards constantly.  Maybe it's time for people to be marching in the streets every bloody weekend until the right wakes up to itself on women, climate, refugees, LGBT, religion... the list goes on and on and on.

#91 TrixieBelden

Posted 21 September 2019 - 09:43 AM

I'm horrified how many men I know working in healthcare who see this as a great development.

It's sickening.  No wonder women don't feel able to disclose abuse to their health care providers.

#92 ~LemonMyrtle~

Posted 21 September 2019 - 09:47 AM

Just been reading up on the chair, Kevin andrews. He is as bad as Hanson. God help us all. (But not Kevin’s god, a nicer one, lol)

#93 IamzFeralz

Posted 21 September 2019 - 09:54 AM

View Post~LemonMyrtle~, on 21 September 2019 - 08:51 AM, said:

I have a bad feeling this will actually win Morrison more votes than lose. And win Hanson votes too, which ultimately helps the Liberals.

Domestic violence seems like a hidden thing. People don’t know the extent of it or how bad it is. I don’t know the extent of it. I have no idea how bad it is. But I know enough to realise this inquiry is a farce.

But there are many other people like me, men and women, who have no idea, and may well agree with Hanson. Like certain sheltered people I know who think Pell is innocent, despite the evidence and conviction. They wouldn’t have a clue about the family law courts. They already vote Liberal I suppose, so that won’t change, sadly. But there are plenty like them that won’t change either.

You’re not wrong.  These people that you speak of are easily manipulated by media sympathetic to a conservative agenda.  They are more concerned by the distant but  hysterical threat of Muslim terrorism than by something in our own backyard that kills far more people.  


#94 Lucrezia Bauble

Posted 21 September 2019 - 09:55 AM

he doesn’t even think people should get divorced...women should just submit to god and their husbands and “make” the marriage work...i mean it’s  like having an anti vaxer head up an Inquiry into the benefits of vaccination....

#95 purplekitty

Posted 21 September 2019 - 10:01 AM

Andrews is another one in that group who seem who have the power in the LNP atm.

Fealty to a religious god and reactionary world view rather than the voters they represent.

This was the danger we were all talking about for the last decade and it was discounted.
They are trying to drag us back to the Dark Ages.

#96 IamtheMumma

Posted 21 September 2019 - 10:04 AM

There have been a few people on my FB who are supporting her. A couple have taken me by surprise. One in particular who knows my story and the hell my ex has put me through. I'm trying really hard to protect my son and keep it out of the court but she supports this.

#97 Meepy

Posted 21 September 2019 - 10:17 AM

This article demonstrates how much women aren't lying.  Disgusting that more staff have to be rostered on to cope with increasing domestic violence because of men who can't behave themselves at this time of year.  I am so very mad at the world right now.  It is very simple- be nice, don't harm others and try to do your best to make the world a good place for all.
https://thenewdaily....News - 20190921

#98 Amica

Posted 21 September 2019 - 10:21 AM

Kevin Andrews says in his book that 'the biggest threat facing the Western world is not climate change or radical Islam, but the continuing breakdown of the essential structures of civil society — marriage, family and community'.

He was also behind the 20 million dollar marriage counselling vouchers that Abbott introduced whilst banging on about "Labor's debt". One might also draw the conclusion that there was a vested financial interest in the scheme given Andrews and his wife owned and ran a marriage counselling business. We were all told that wasn't there case though. Nothing to see here.

Edited by AliasMater, 21 September 2019 - 10:22 AM.


#99 Navy Blue

Posted 21 September 2019 - 10:25 AM

View PostEllie bean, on 18 September 2019 - 09:17 PM, said:

Love the betoota’s take on it

https://www.betootaa...aking-stuff-up/

She is just so appalling :(

'I don't trust the one woman per week who claims to be murdered by a current or former partner. I think she's got an agenda'. I literally cannot believe this quote!

Um, she's not claiming anything, she's dead. Her only agenda was trying to protect herself and her children from a monster.

I'm in awe of the courageous women who take on the biased farce of a family court system.

I'm beyond disgusted with pathetic pieces of sh*t men who play the victim.

#100 Ozquoll

Posted 21 September 2019 - 10:41 AM

^^^
You're not meant to believe the quote NB, the Betoota Advocate is satire. They did parody Pauline's rhetorical style rather well 🤨.




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