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#101 Jane Jinglebells

Posted 21 September 2019 - 10:48 AM

View PostOzquoll, on 21 September 2019 - 10:41 AM, said:

^^^
You're not meant to believe the quote NB, the Betoota Advocate is satire. They did parody Pauline's rhetorical style rather well .

Poe's Law: the point comes when extreme views have become so accepted and mainstream, that it gets really kinda hard to satirise them... because you can't tell the difference between the satire and what these nongs actually say

#102 Lucrezia Bauble

Posted 21 September 2019 - 11:07 AM

if you can put aside (for a moment) the fact that she’s dangerous, and in our federal parliament and thus able to inflict real damage on vulnerable people - but she’s quite a horribly fascinating person. i’d love to read a psychologist’s “take” on her...every time she’s on the news (too often) DS points her out and says “why does she always sound like she’s about to cry?” - she kind of seethes with this barely controlled inner rage...it’s like the song “where do you go to Pauline, when you’re alone in your bed, tell me the thoughts that surround you....”

i mean she’s vile and racist and misogynistic - don’t get me wrong, i have no sympathy for her....but what makes her tick...


#103 Navy Blue

Posted 21 September 2019 - 11:12 AM

Ah, thanks! Never heard of that site. Does sound like the sh*t she would spout though.

#104 purplekitty

Posted 21 September 2019 - 12:27 PM

Hansen is an enigma.

I remember when she first entered politics in Qld.,her popularity was baffling.
The old and middle-aged guys who adored her,it seemed to be some sexual thing,no idea what that was about.

Malcolm Roberts is now going us the benefit of his expertise saying that the Family Court forces male violence against women.

#105 TrixieBelden

Posted 21 September 2019 - 12:41 PM

I think she’s the same as men with similar views - we’re witnessing the pent-up frustration of a lifetime of being stupid and inarticulate.  Like a toddler who can’t find the words to express themselves and just screams in frustration.

The same as the MRAs and the white supremacists - the fury of being permanently denied the ability to engage in higher level thinking.

#106 purplekitty

Posted 21 September 2019 - 12:46 PM

A lifetime of pent up rage at having their stupid opinions not listened to and acted on.
Because they are stupid opinions.

#107 Lunafreya

Posted 21 September 2019 - 12:47 PM

And the creeping fear of their growing irrelevancy.

#108 purplekitty

Posted 21 September 2019 - 12:49 PM

It was the weird adoration that they had for Hansen,a woman entering politics when they thought women were incapable.
She was like a rock star at events.

#109 Mmmcheese

Posted 21 September 2019 - 12:50 PM

This is heartbreaking. This is going to hurt so many women and children, who have already been hurt. Such a divisive action.

#110 Jane Jinglebells

Posted 21 September 2019 - 01:11 PM

My parents used to vote One Nation (not sure what Dad does now). I think it was out of a deep anger at the fact that control of society was being taken out of the hands of white men, where they felt it belonged. I'll never understand it.

View PostLucrezia Borgia, on 21 September 2019 - 11:07 AM, said:

it’s like the song “where do you go to Pauline, when you’re alone in your bed, tell me the thoughts that surround you....”


Way to wreck that song for me forever :laugh:

#111 TrixieBelden

Posted 21 September 2019 - 01:19 PM

Yes I remember the first time around - she was definitely sexually appealing to a group of people who wanted.....I’m not sure what? Some kind of stern mummy/damsel in distress projection?

It was v creepy.

#112 Lucrezia Bauble

Posted 21 September 2019 - 01:49 PM

yeh the same crowd (i imagine) had a bit of a thing for Sarah Palin...even Peter Costello at one point, on QandA maybe? was leering at a picture of her....it’s so telling....they like these apparently “strong”, opinionated women, but only when they play for the patriarchy -ie bring other left wing “uppity” women down...


#113 Ozquoll

Posted 21 September 2019 - 02:14 PM

View PostTrixieBelden, on 21 September 2019 - 12:41 PM, said:

I think she’s the same as men with similar views - we’re witnessing the pent-up frustration of a lifetime of being stupid and inarticulate.  Like a toddler who can’t find the words to express themselves and just screams in frustration.

The same as the MRAs and the white supremacists - the fury of being permanently denied the ability to engage in higher level thinking.
I'm not so sure that is the explanation - pre-1900, white supremacy and male supremacy were almost universally held to be true by the intelligentsia in Western societies.

#114 purplekitty

Posted 21 September 2019 - 02:15 PM

View PostOzquoll, on 21 September 2019 - 02:14 PM, said:

I'm not so sure that is the explanation - pre-1900, white supremacy and male supremacy were almost universally held to be true by the intelligentsia in Western societies.
Different era.

#115 Ozquoll

Posted 21 September 2019 - 02:20 PM

View Postpurplekitty, on 21 September 2019 - 02:15 PM, said:


Different era.
It was, but Trixie seems to be positing that it is stupidity and an inability to express themselves that turns people into racists/supremacists of various sorts. I'm just pointing out that the majority of Western scientists and thinkers in the past, who presumably were both intelligent and articulate, did indeed hold those views.

#116 TrixieBelden

Posted 21 September 2019 - 03:15 PM

View PostOzquoll, on 21 September 2019 - 02:14 PM, said:


I'm not so sure that is the explanation - pre-1900, white supremacy and male supremacy were almost universally held to be true by the intelligentsia in Western societies.

Actually the intelligentsia is a concept that existed only for about 100 years pre-1900. It relates to the creation and rise of a professional middle class. There are plenty of people of intelligence who don’t now and didn’t previously belong to that relatively new social class.

It is of course also incorrect to suggest that people were universally sexist or racist - in fact many people managed not to be, and to agitate for change across a range of social issues. There’s never been a time when everyone, even in that brief period in which the intelligentsia has existed, has agreed. That’s how social change has occurred for milennia now.

The pace of social change since the invention of the printing press in particular has been driven by intelligent people of a kind unrecognisable to Hansen and her acolytes.  That’s why they’re furious - they consider their world view to be correct but aren’t really capable of stringing a sentence together, let alone constructing an argument.  It’s why they constantly bang on about being ‘silenced’ - they’re clearly not silenced, they just aren’t capable of making a point worth making.

Please do tell us about the highly intelligent, articulate white supremacists you’ve come across though!

Edited by TrixieBelden, 21 September 2019 - 03:23 PM.


#117 archyandmehitabel

Posted 21 September 2019 - 03:17 PM

It's fear of change. Fear that you will not understand or accept how your society thinks and will become socially marginalised or a pariah.

Things that were universally present and accepted as right are no longer the majority or even necessarily right.

#118 Lucrezia Bauble

Posted 21 September 2019 - 03:29 PM

maybe also fear of being made to look like a fool? I mean, she is a fool....but she’s given her life to this right wing, reactionary creed....she came out and spoke whatever nasty little thought bubble was in her head, maybe she’s had moments of self reflection but she’s too far gone - she can’t back down now ...dunno, i can’t really express what i mean - like i said, she’d be an interesting study for a psychologist ....


#119 purplekitty

Posted 21 September 2019 - 03:35 PM

The politics of envy and fear.
Works very time.

#120 archyandmehitabel

Posted 21 September 2019 - 03:40 PM

I doubt she is capable of true reflection. She seems emotion driven and spends her life reacting. That article by David Leser really paints a picture. The part about her children not showing her enough respect was very telling. Everyone is wrong except her.

If she was a mum in the school parents group, or a work colleague can you imagine what a nightmare she would be to deal with? I'd run a mile to avoid her

#121 MerryMadrigalMadge

Posted 21 September 2019 - 04:41 PM

Yep, the way he described how she never smiled, and the physical reaction her daughter had when Pauline described her divorces.

#122 Lucrezia Bauble

Posted 21 September 2019 - 05:56 PM

yes it was a really interesting article....

- because they didn’t show me respect
- I’m not going to cop it
- i’ve gone out of my way
- i’m not going to be used by anyone...

[hot tip Pauline - you’re being used by the LNP, you’re being used by every right wing nut job you recruit to your party....they don’t respect you...]


#123 Amica

Posted 21 September 2019 - 06:35 PM

It would seem that she demanded respect from her children, never earned it. That isn't how it works unfortunately.

#124 IamtheMumma

Posted 21 September 2019 - 08:50 PM

View PostLucrezia Borgia, on 21 September 2019 - 05:56 PM, said:

yes it was a really interesting article....

- because they didn’t show me respect
- I’m not going to cop it
- i’ve gone out of my way
- i’m not going to be used by anyone...

[hot tip Pauline - you’re being used by the LNP, you’re being used by every right wing nut job you recruit to your party....they don’t respect you...]

She's a marionette and is completely clueless about it.

#125 Bethlehem Babe

Posted 22 September 2019 - 10:35 AM

This is a fascinating and scary article.
https://www.watoday....920-p52tes.html




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