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#1 newmumandexcited

Posted 04 September 2019 - 07:55 PM

Are you finding that people are at breaking point? My workplace is so full of conflict, colleagues who are behaving irrationally and I just feel so tired of all the issues. Then today a guy all but abused us in the park for a relatively minor issue. It all seems so explosive with little warning..

These are only small issues I guess but Nick Cave talks about mental despair being at all time high and it’s starting to feel this way. It makes it hard to want to go out and interact as a means of self-preservation..

Anyone noticing this?

#2 blueskies12

Posted 04 September 2019 - 08:04 PM

Yes, I am noticing it. My workplace is like this too. People are unhappy.

I don't know why?

We are time -pressured and more insular?

#3 cvbn

Posted 04 September 2019 - 08:05 PM

Yes, I find I am happy to stay at home more and more (self employed) as people seen so sad.

#4 blueskies12

Posted 04 September 2019 - 08:08 PM

Why do you think this is so OP?

Is it information overload, workplace performance reviews, high cost of living, environmental issues, people not being connected to communities? I would love to know people's ideas and whether they think this is the case.

#5 newmumandexcited

Posted 04 September 2019 - 08:20 PM

I wonder if life is just sucking more out of us - working expectations are higher, costs are higher but we are still the same people with the same capacity to cope?

I tell myself not to speak now.. just because everyone’s so edgy. Not a great way to live!!

#6 petal71

Posted 04 September 2019 - 08:29 PM

Completely feel this.
My theories are:
- Supposed time-saving practices eg email rather than phone call results in miscommunication as ppl are so hurried that they miss half the info, resulting in breakdown in communication, frustration of trying to reach coworkers by phone and endless games of phone tag
- Pure overwork due partly to above or to management loading more and more on to employees, underresourced workplaces. Eg in my workplace, even if I do get the right person on the phone, chances are they are so inundated they aren't on top of what's happening for their clients, so the miscommunication continues
- Automated BS systems, again designed to cut costs, prime case in point being Centrelink - massive frustration around having to provide documents multiple times, admin errors, cant talk to a human - ppl carry this frustration into work
- Most of the time you encounter this crap 4-5 times a day even outside work
- Major anxiety re state of the world. Climate change getting critical, species extinction, Amazon burning. US seems to be run by a madman, UK about to implode, tensions in HK, China-US, Russia, sooo many other places that barely make it to the news. huge issues in equality around the world.
- All of the above amplified by social media

- Less sense of cohesion generally. Lets face it, the challenges in the 1940's with the outbreak of WW2 were much more dire, but I have a sense there was more of a "we're in it together" sense that helped people cope with all the atrocities that went on.

#7 newmumandexcited

Posted 04 September 2019 - 08:34 PM

Yes to major anxiety about the world. I think that’s a big cause.

#8 newmumandexcited

Posted 04 September 2019 - 08:35 PM

How are you all dealing with this? Do you growing wary of interaction?

#9 cvbn

Posted 04 September 2019 - 08:39 PM

I tell myself its not personal, everyone has their demons and are trying to deal with them.

That helps me

#10 gettin my fance on

Posted 04 September 2019 - 08:43 PM

My 5c worth

- stagnant wages coupled with increased living costs

- lack of job security due to casualisation of the workforce as well as periodic contracts instead of permanent positions

- increased work hours expected for no extra pay

- increased commuting times

#11 28 Barbary Lane

Posted 04 September 2019 - 08:54 PM

View PostWTFancie shmancie, on 04 September 2019 - 08:43 PM, said:

My 5c worth

- lack of job security due to casualisation of the workforce as well as periodic contracts instead of permanent positions
Exactly or make a position “redundant” then offload the work that still needs to be done to other staff, who are expected to complete that work, along with their original work, with no extra time or money provided as compensation.

When this goes pear shaped and everyone starts to panic, they get contractors in, and expect them to do the same work for less money and none of the benefits of being permanent.

This creates more and more pressure and resentment and stress and anxiety builds. It’s not healthy. Stressed, overworked, under staffed workplaces are not sustainable, people’s tempers flare and they either snap or burnout.

#12 blimkybill

Posted 04 September 2019 - 09:12 PM

View Postpetal71, on 04 September 2019 - 08:29 PM, said:

Completely feel this.
My theories are:
- Supposed time-saving practices eg email rather than phone call results in miscommunication as ppl are so hurried that they miss half the info, resulting in breakdown in communication, frustration of trying to reach coworkers by phone and endless games of phone tag
- Pure overwork due partly to above or to management loading more and more on to employees, underresourced workplaces. Eg in my workplace, even if I do get the right person on the phone, chances are they are so inundated they aren't on top of what's happening for their clients, so the miscommunication continues
- Automated BS systems, again designed to cut costs, prime case in point being Centrelink - massive frustration around having to provide documents multiple times, admin errors, cant talk to a human - ppl carry this frustration into work
- Most of the time you encounter this crap 4-5 times a day even outside work
- Major anxiety re state of the world. Climate change getting critical, species extinction, Amazon burning. US seems to be run by a madman, UK about to implode, tensions in HK, China-US, Russia, sooo many other places that barely make it to the news. huge issues in equality around the world.
- All of the above amplified by social media

- Less sense of cohesion generally. Lets face it, the challenges in the 1940's with the outbreak of WW2 were much more dire, but I have a sense there was more of a "we're in it together" sense that helped people cope with all the atrocities that went on.
Yes to all of these. For me personally the state of the world one is huge. I see my young adult children ready to build their lives but if I think too much I despair for what those lives may hold.
I have partly coped by leaving my workplace and becoming self employed. I am lucky in that this is working for me. And I am super lucky I can bring my values and interests into my work. I hate what (many) workplaces do to people these days.
Beyond that I often find I need to go back to basics. Spend time at home, do the housework mindfully and get pleasure from it, cook and eat mindfully and enjoy that , spend time in nature, focus on improving my relationships with the most important people in my world, just "be" where I can. Eg i put some bird seed out for the wild birds and get great pleasure in watching them come to feed outside my window. For me life is meaningful that way, just to be and to experience the world through my senses, to experience beauty. Sometimes I have to step away from everything else. It's too painful.

#13 newmumandexcited

Posted 04 September 2019 - 09:27 PM

What a lovely list of things blimkybill..

#14 Ozquoll

Posted 04 September 2019 - 10:15 PM

There's something bubbling up from the deep alright. If I had to reduce it to one cause I would guess that even though we are fed non-stop optimistic bullsh*t every waking hour of our lives, at some deep unconscious level we know that our civilisation is in irrevocable decline and our future will be much harder than our past. No wonder everyone is cracking.

#15 rileys-mum

Posted 04 September 2019 - 10:39 PM

I am self employed and have been for 16 of the last 19 years.
At the moment I am working outrageous and unsustainable hours to pull the $ that I need to keep the family budget going.
I would love to go for a walk - instead I am at the gym trying to spend  as many calories as I can in the shortest space of time so that I can get back to work.
I am heading to work an hour early cause I can’t afford the lost time spent in peak hour traffic - heading home is the same.
I have not had a haircut/ colour for 6 mths cause I can’t afford the time.
I am always running late and disappointing someone...... it is unrelenting and still randoms what to tell me to slow down or impart their wellness advice. Mate if I could I would.
So after my rant. Yes it is wages, expectations, housing prices, social media, family responsibilities, professional obligations, ageing parents and rubbish bins!

Extra vent- rubbish bins... we have a new rubbish bin system @$$&! Now it is something else I need to monitor!

Yes I am cranky and on edge. Please don’t p*ss me off this week - or worse cut me off in traffic - I may not be able to control myself.... BTW coffee and wine stopped working several months ago.

In reality I am a kind person who would help anyone in any given day. All I need to become this person again is 30 hours per day instead of 24.
I apologise to anyone I offended IRL today.

#16 Ellie bean

Posted 04 September 2019 - 10:44 PM

I don’t know about any of this tbh. The world wasn’t that much better 10 years ago when I was young and carefree and I wasn’t despairing then. I just feel it now and notice it around me because my friends and I are juggling kids, work, ageing parents and we are just ****ing tired.

#17 rileys-mum

Posted 04 September 2019 - 10:49 PM

Yes Ellie Bean - I am just tired, like really tired.... so tired that I cannot foresee a time in the future that I am not tired....

#18 Melbs2010

Posted 05 September 2019 - 07:35 AM

My workplace is similar with people biting each other's head off over day to day issues, staff "joking" about how they don't want to call 'x' about an issue because they are never nice to deal with, infighting and resentment within and between teams.  It's especially toxic.  I put it down to teams being under resourced across the board due to management cost cutting.  The same or more workload being managed by fewer people.  Every, single team is under resourced so there's nowhere to redirect tasks yet all teams are having to prove they are meeting KPIs.  If they're not then attempts to deflect generally involve blaming someone else with the loudest being the most influential. Cost cutting means the KPIs are likely impossible to meet in the first place.

I hold out hope that all businesses are not like this but I'd say in the current economic climate they are more common.  Even with the knowledge the economy as a whole is struggling that doesn't always translate to realistic expectations around financial performance.  

These same antagonistic, overworked people are the ones giving you a hard time in the shopping centre carpark or road raging or whatever.  Some days it's going to be taken home with them.  I don't think that is ok.  I think people believe more so than in the past that they can abuse people and behave however they feel entitled to.  Perhaps because the idea of community vs the individual has eroded significantly in the last 10 years

#19 blueskies12

Posted 11 September 2019 - 02:02 PM

I'd agree Melbs2010, I would think that with our tougher financial climate, businesses are expecting us to do more, be more and work more to break the glass ceiling. Unfortunately, we have already reached our peak finances wise and until we do something about climate change and accessing all electricity from a renewable source then we can't beat our record.




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