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#1 ERipley

Posted 18 August 2019 - 09:55 AM

I’m just wondering what kind of simple switches people have made to be more ethical about what they consume? This discussion started talking about what milk people buy to support farmers.

Please no smug attacks about how a company isn’t 100% perfect. I’m hoping that by sharing some ideas of popular brands anyone who’s interested (like me) can make some simple changes. I realise this is a bit of a minefield but I want to do better.

Lately I have chosen:

Lavazza for coffee
The Ordinary for beauty products
Green & Blacks for chocolate instead of Lindt.

I am curious about which tinned tomatoes are best? Apparently slave labour in Italy is really bad in this area.

#2 Mmmcheese

Posted 18 August 2019 - 10:01 AM

I vary all over the place depending on what's on my mind (Facebook feed!) At any time. I buy ardomna tinned tomatoes because they're local, so low food miles and I think local producers of food are something worthwhile to support. I try to buy fresh fruit and veg only in season. Eg, no imported asparagus from Mexico. I buy the more expensive milk. I try to buy from smaller companies. Nestle are evil, but also quite difficult to avoid if you're lazy like me. At times we've avoided palm oil and then we revert. I find grocery shopping exhausting because I overthink everything.

#3 DirtyStreetPie

Posted 18 August 2019 - 10:33 AM

Italy is known for illegally 'dumping' its tomatoes, so I buy only the SPC Admona brand.

Also, years ago, a report on the ABC mentioned that Italy exports more extra-virgin olive oil than it produces. In other words, ordinary olive oil is being mislabeled as extra-virgin and exported to us gullible idiots. So, I buy only local brands like Cobram Estate.

Same story with oregano - according to an investigation by Choice, many brands of dried oregano are just olive leaves and the like. I think Masterfoods and McCormick passed the test, so I stick with them.

Now, this next one may cause controversy: I avoid Aldi, and here's why. When I walk into an Aldi store, many of the products have branding and logos that look like the popular brands you see in the major supermarkets. Companies spend many years (and dollars) establishing their brands. So Aldi is capitalising on the work that others have done, by ripping off the branding of popular manufacturers.

They're stealing, because brands and logos are worth real money.

I don't have a problem with Aldi existing and competing with the 'big two'. But if their products are so freaking awesome, they should have the confidence to develop their own branding instead of riding on the coattails of Kraft et al.

So, while I'm no fan of big companies etc etc, I do respect the work they've done in establishing their brands, so I make an ethical choice in not supporting brand thieves.

#4 Mmmcheese

Posted 18 August 2019 - 10:38 AM

Dirtystreetpie, that's why I often avoid the Coles/Woolworth brand products. Large companies have spent years refining and branding their products and the supermarkets muscle in and steal their work. As I said, I find the ethics of shopping exhausting and contradictory!

#5 DirtyStreetPie

Posted 18 August 2019 - 10:40 AM

View PostMmmcheese, on 18 August 2019 - 10:38 AM, said:

Dirtystreetpie, that's why I often avoid the Coles/Woolworth brand products. Large companies have spent years refining and branding their products and the supermarkets muscle in and steal their work. As I said, I find the ethics of shopping exhausting and contradictory!

Me too. I avoid 'home brand' where possible.

"Exhausting and contradictory" is the most apt description I've ever heard for this grocery-shopping palaver. :D

But I do recognise that I'm lucky that I get to make these choices, because I'm middle class and I can afford to buy the more expensive brands. I wouldn't expect a person on a low or fixed income to make the same choices, but those of us who can afford it should really try harder.

#6 Etta

Posted 18 August 2019 - 10:44 AM

I bottle my own tomatoes in summer - buy them in bulk and then do them in the vacola. I understand that the plastic that lines most of the cans contains BPA.

I buy Nature's Gift dog food or the other one whose name I can't remember. I also buy Grant's toothpaste.

When you look for a product, if you look around the edges (top, bottom and sides) of the selection you are more likely to find the ethical products. They don't pay the big money for product placement.

#7 WannabeMasterchef

Posted 18 August 2019 - 11:11 AM

View PostDirtyStreetPie, on 18 August 2019 - 10:33 AM, said:


Now, this next one may cause controversy: I avoid Aldi, and here's why. When I walk into an Aldi store, many of the products have branding and logos that look like the popular brands you see in the major supermarkets. Companies spend many years (and dollars) establishing their brands. So Aldi is capitalising on the work that others have done, by ripping off the branding of popular manufacturers.

They're stealing, because brands and logos are worth real money.


Im torn on Aldi. They are another option for the less well off which is a positive, but they seem to be understaffed and their poor workers are so stressed out.

#8 YumChaTheSecond

Posted 18 August 2019 - 11:26 AM

Switched to Powershop for gas and elec recently. Have our joint bank accounts with Bank Australia.

#9 SeaPrincess

Posted 18 August 2019 - 11:29 AM

I try to buy local fresh produce, even from Woolies and Coles. Things like strawberries have the farm information, so I look for local growers. I get eggs from the local egg producer (which also used to be a major sponsor of our sports club), locally-produced milk, meat, fish, etc. If a product is not local, I look for Australian grown.

#10 WannabeMasterchef

Posted 18 August 2019 - 11:34 AM

I try to avoid brands that claim to sell 'boys toys' and 'girls toys' or 'boys books' and 'girls books'. I dislike the limiting of childrens imaginations by gender.

#11 MooGuru

Posted 18 August 2019 - 12:01 PM

View PostWannabeMasterchef, on 18 August 2019 - 11:11 AM, said:



Im torn on Aldi. They are another option for the less well off which is a positive, but they seem to be understaffed and their poor workers are so stressed out.

I think (and may be wrong as it's been a while) that their pay is better than most and workplace satisfaction was on par with other similar jobs.

Eta - a family member applied to work there several years back and looked into it.

Edited by MooGuru, 18 August 2019 - 12:03 PM.


#12 ERipley

Posted 18 August 2019 - 12:14 PM

View PostSeaPrincess, on 18 August 2019 - 11:29 AM, said:

I try to buy local fresh produce, even from Woolies and Coles. Things like strawberries have the farm information, so I look for local growers. I get eggs from the local egg producer (which also used to be a major sponsor of our sports club), locally-produced milk, meat, fish, etc. If a product is not local, I look for Australian grown.

What I would love is time to go to a farmers’ market and get all this stuff straight from the producer. I am definitely time poor. Saturday and Sunday mornings are full of various kids activities and therapies and they all packed up and gone home by midday.

#13 ERipley

Posted 18 August 2019 - 12:17 PM

The first thing DP said about this was that we should be avoiding companies who use tonnes of unnecessary plastic. Coles and woolworths again.

That said, I am very impressed with the move into less cruel meat production that Coles have really led the way with.

#14 MooGuru

Posted 18 August 2019 - 12:18 PM

I try to buy clothes either at markets or every year there's that list that comes out with the score card of ethical behaviour by companies and I try to stick with companies that have scored higher.

I buy Ardmona tomatoes. If possible look for Australian made/product of Australia.

I use products like Earth's choice for washing powder.

I've checked out Flora & Fauna a few times and bought some products there too.

https://www.abc.net....report/10990034

Eta - I also try to avoid excess packaging.

Edited by MooGuru, 18 August 2019 - 12:19 PM.


#15 SeaPrincess

Posted 18 August 2019 - 12:22 PM

Sorry. I may have jumped the gun.

Edited by SeaPrincess, 18 August 2019 - 12:24 PM.


#16 Meepy

Posted 18 August 2019 - 12:24 PM

I buy organic linen from Blessed earth, wool doonas from the producers, milk and other products from Victorian Farmers direct, electricity from Powershop, bank with bankfirst, use a local internet and phone company and buy spc and Ardmona products (sometimes in bulk from Shepparton).  I try to buy ethically whenever I can, sometimes cost is an issue.

#17 Gumbette

Posted 18 August 2019 - 12:27 PM

Ardmona for tinned goods.  Farmer Friendly milk from HFM. Skincare mainly from Loccitane. Fair trade coffee beans.

Sometimes it’s easy to forget buying ethical can be cost prohibitive for many, but it does annoy me when I see people at my local loading cheap Coles milk into their luxury European cars.

Edited by Gumbette, 18 August 2019 - 12:28 PM.


#18 archyandmehitabel

Posted 18 August 2019 - 12:37 PM

Banks - this website tells you which invest in fossile fuels:

Compare the Market

Electricity

The Green Electricity Guide

For toilet paper:

Who Gives a Crap

Soap

Austraian Botanical Soap


Mositurisers and other facial stuff

Sukin


The soap and Sukin are vailable at supermarkets and pharmacies, though I bought the soap in bulk so it wasn;t wrapped in plastic as it is the supermarket (they are planning to change that)

We also buy Ardmona tomatoes. Italian tomatoes there is the risk of tomato slaves.

Yoghurt we buy Jalna because it is an Australian made and owned brand.

#19 Nasty Bunsen

Posted 18 August 2019 - 12:55 PM

I thought Aldi had deals with the big brands to supply them under their own label - so the weetbix that’s packaged like proper weetbix is made by the weetbix people?

#20 Dadada

Posted 18 August 2019 - 01:08 PM

The big thing for me is where to put my super - it’s the biggest investment (after our house) I make, way more than any everyday shopping. (Though I do try to avoid excess plastic... but it’s bloody hard.)

I’ve just switched to FutureSuper for that reason ... it’s (as far as I can tell) the most genuinely sustainable (ie fossil fuel free, ethical and socially beneficial investments).

#21 RynandStompy

Posted 18 August 2019 - 01:27 PM

A question about the ethics of sourcing locally produced rice vs overseas?

Usually I buy local Australian, but in the case of rice , we're seeing independent media reporting on how much environmental damage is being done downstream to support the huge rice farming water buying. So which is more ethical?
Edit to clarify: buying Aus rice vs Overseas rice?

Genuine question here - DH and were discussing today and aren't sure how to 'rank' the ethics of Aus rice vs some easier food ethics choices.

Edited by RynandStompy, 18 August 2019 - 01:28 PM.


#22 Mmmcheese

Posted 18 August 2019 - 01:37 PM

View PostRynandStompy, on 18 August 2019 - 01:27 PM, said:

A question about the ethics of sourcing locally produced rice vs overseas?

Usually I buy local Australian, but in the case of rice , we're seeing independent media reporting on how much environmental damage is being done downstream to support the huge rice farming water buying. So which is more ethical?
Edit to clarify: buying Aus rice vs Overseas rice?

Genuine question here - DH and were discussing today and aren't sure how to 'rank' the ethics of Aus rice vs some easier food ethics choices.

I buy overseas rice for this reason... Not sure if it really is more ethical though...

#23 Mooples

Posted 18 August 2019 - 01:47 PM

I buy Australian whenever I can, usually it costs more and our shopping bill is quite high. I buy Sirena tuna which I believe is all pole and line caught and a few other brands already mentioned. I buy lots at lush especially for gifts.

#24 Treasure Island

Posted 18 August 2019 - 02:04 PM

Quote

I am curious about which tinned tomatoes are best? Apparently slave labour in Italy is really bad in this area.

Another for Ardmona here, just because they are Australian.

One thing I am doing is giving up buying skin care products and using my pantry instead. Super cheap and virtually no waste as I use so little and I am buying these items anyway - coconut oil, sugar, eggs etc. My skin is better than it has has ever been since I was a teenager.

#25 MooGuru

Posted 18 August 2019 - 02:12 PM

View PostTreasure Island, on 18 August 2019 - 02:04 PM, said:



Another for Ardmona here, just because they are Australian.

One thing I am doing is giving up buying skin care products and using my pantry instead. Super cheap and virtually no waste as I use so little and I am buying these items anyway - coconut oil, sugar, eggs etc. My skin is better than it has has ever been since I was a teenager.

What do you use? I'm interested in this. I've replaced conditioner with apple cider vinegar so far.
I'm allergic to egg though so if it's egg based it's out for me.




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