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#1 CallMeFeral

Posted 17 August 2019 - 11:44 PM

So this might be weird but... is there anywhere someone can go (or something I can print out) that introduces people to just the really basic concepts that we all (in this forum, not so much the world) take for granted in terms of societies influence on women.

I was talking to my dad today and he said some really ignorant things, but though they riled me, I realised when I challenged him that he actually just doesn't know any better. He hasn't been exposed to the literature and thinking I have, and so his thoughts are understandable. I've had that feeling so many times, when people are unaware of a whole lot of background info that I take for granted, the position of women in society, the treatment as decoration etc. He's not a conservative and has quite modern views on a lot of stuff so I think some of his things just haven't been thought through

For context, I was pointing out to my daughter that in the show they were watching, the girls had super short shorts and the boys had long shorts, and asked her why that might be - he pipes up that girls seem to like wearing more revealing clothes than men do, like it's some natural preference or something (eyeroll). When I asked him about how society might reinforce women who reveal more skin, he had to think for a while and then thought it was with attention, which led him to the thought that women who liked attention wore revealing clothes and ones who didn't, didn't. ARGH!
But anyway, infuriating as that all is I know he's just looking around his world and making links without all the information. Where do I get him the basic information in an easily digestible form?

#2 Chaotic Pogo

Posted 17 August 2019 - 11:48 PM

DH thinks he’s enlightened but at the end if the day, he thinks women choose and structural inequality is a bit of a myth.

He said he would listen to the book Invisible Women by Caroline Criado Perez so I’m hoping some of that might get through.

#3 Mmmcheese

Posted 18 August 2019 - 06:43 AM


Not sure if this the kind of thing you're looking for...

#4 kimasa

Posted 18 August 2019 - 09:05 AM

There's a book aimed at tween/young teen girls called Girl Up by Laura Bates that is basically "an introduction to feminism". I recommend it to a lot of young girls at work.

Seems like an odd suggestion, he's obviously not the target audience, but it's a good basic introduction.

#5 cinnabubble

Posted 18 August 2019 - 09:58 AM

I found that I got traction explaining feminism to a person with lived experience of racism by framing it in terms of assumptions people make about him and the harmful stereotypes that come with them.

#6 CallMeFeral

Posted 18 August 2019 - 11:46 PM

View Postcinnabubble, on 18 August 2019 - 09:58 AM, said:

I found that I got traction explaining feminism to a person with lived experience of racism by framing it in terms of assumptions people make about him and the harmful stereotypes that come with them.

Yeah I've really noticed this with my husband. Several concepts he just doesn't 'get' until I frame it in equivalent race terms.

My dad hasn't experienced racism though. That said I did think later I should have framed it in terms of why he dyes his hair. He's said that he notices when he's more grey it's like he becomes invisible, at the shops people don't serve or notice him etc. I wonder if he'd be able to see the analogy between how women are treated with more 'importance' if they are obviously attractive.

#7 Bethlehem Babe

Posted 18 August 2019 - 11:56 PM

I wonder if accidental feminists by Jane Caro might be a good place to start?
It’s talking about her generation she’s 62 - so might be relatable if he thinks about the women in his life.


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