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#251 ERipley

Posted 27 June 2019 - 09:18 AM

View PostLou-bags, on 27 June 2019 - 01:07 AM, said:



It was within the last 8 weeks. Definitely not talking about getting into any g&t program (I don’t think their school runs one for her age group), it was specifically about the percentage of children who meet the criteria for giftedness. It was a registered psychologist.

Without knowing who the psychologist is or what was said I really can’t comment. Perhaps they do buy into the whole “mildly gifted” thing.

#252 Hypnic Jerk

Posted 27 June 2019 - 09:36 AM

View PostWannabeMasterchef, on 27 June 2019 - 08:42 AM, said:



LOL, what on earth did your DH do?

Wore them.  They were both black, just slightly different shades.  But we did have a few in thongs at the service and reception.

#253 Pooks Combusted

Posted 27 June 2019 - 09:45 AM

View PostWTFJerk, on 27 June 2019 - 05:53 AM, said:



3 people forgot to bring shoes to my wedding.  And DH bought the wrong pants.

Some have average kids.  I have average friends

We got married at 10.30am, my husband’s best man had to run to Big W beforehand because my husband only had runners :lol:

#254 JoanJett

Posted 27 June 2019 - 10:36 AM

View Post**Xena**, on 26 June 2019 - 06:10 PM, said:

At my son's school they call them Extension classes Posted Image

Extension is not always the same thing as catering for "gifted" children (using the term because it's the one in play in this forum).  

Extension suits "gifted" children who are achieving, and children who are achieving academically in an area but often what the "gifted" children many of us talking about (the ones with accompanying disabilities and disorders) need is enrichment and a different approach to education in general.

My older son's school does both - extension classes in Maths and English but also separate enrichment classes for both streams that cater to creative thinking, higher order thinking, problem solving and a range of other skills.  There's not complete crossover between the extension/enrichment classes and the enrichment classes are much smaller.

Edited by JoanJett, 27 June 2019 - 10:37 AM.


#255 Moo point

Posted 27 June 2019 - 11:52 AM

I understand the FB angst, but have to not focus on it. DS7 has a speech disorder, ASD and ADHD, resulting in difficulty concentrating, delayed in literacy, social skill issues and difficulty regulating his emotions. We are so proud of him for so many things that I likely wouldn't post on FB as they don't make sense in an average world. For example, he read all of his allocated spelling words 3 times this morning, getting them all right on the last go. But he has a much smaller list than his classmates, and still can't spell them - but he can read them.

Yet what brought tears to my eyes this morning with my heart bursting with pride? DH sent me a photo of DS helping an elderly lady cross the street and walking with her all the way past school to the retirement home next door. DH and I found school and further study relatively easy (though we both work past different challenges - I'm lazy/major procrastinator, and DH has severe attention issues like DS). But we have a beautifully empathic, funny, endearing and curious child - we couldn't ask for more.

Edited by Moo point, 27 June 2019 - 11:54 AM.


#256 sunshine_days

Posted 27 June 2019 - 12:22 PM

Sounds like these parents Op are living their lives thru their children. Maybe they never did well at school or had certain talents ..

I have two kids and they have their strong subjects... Master 14 is a maths, science kid but lazy and could try better when he puts his mind to it. And Miss 12 is a English/Reader.

But she puts 100% into everything's he does, she hates maths are certainly struggles with it and needs loads of help from DH ( l hated maths too and was never good at it) but she passed her exam (just) as was happy that she did it as she didn't believe in herself..

Her PE teacher pulled her aside the other day and praised her for her efforts and excellent attitude in PE, again she's not the best sports person (more a swimmer ) but he was so pleased with her go-get attitude and the ability to laugh at herself for mistakes and had the "oh well l tried my best and had fun".. where most kids stand back and make excuses in not wanting to join in.


She got an award at school for this attitude, being a helpful student. always willing to give her best and try her hardest and being a kind and thoughtful kid. Thats all we can ask right???

Its not easy for her as she's had a hard year(year 7), girls can be cruel..

I think each kid has a talent, whether being good at school/certain subjects, sportsperson, musical talent or that could be that kids that helps the kid up whos fallen down and everyone else ignores them, or the kids who stands up for another kid whos being bullied, or the kid who befriends the kid in the class no one else wants to...

#257 RichardParker

Posted 27 June 2019 - 01:01 PM

Comparisons in this thread are between the difficulties of highly gifted kids and average kids. Not as between highly gifted kids and profoundly disabled kids.   No-one (that I’ve seen) has argued that highly gifted people have a harder life (as children or adults) than people with profound physical and intellectual disabilities. Although I understand why it would grate to hear that the gifted kids have “such” a hard life.

#258 **Xena**

Posted 27 June 2019 - 04:09 PM

View PostJoanJett, on 27 June 2019 - 10:36 AM, said:



Extension is not always the same thing as catering for "gifted" children (using the term because it's the one in play in this forum).  

Extension suits "gifted" children who are achieving, and children who are achieving academically in an area but often what the "gifted" children many of us talking about (the ones with accompanying disabilities and disorders) need is enrichment and a different approach to education in general.

My older son's school does both - extension classes in Maths and English but also separate enrichment classes for both streams that cater to creative thinking, higher order thinking, problem solving and a range of other skills.  There's not complete crossover between the extension/enrichment classes and the enrichment classes are much smaller.

We have enrichment courses as well. Also neither are necessarily just for those doing well/having trouble academically. Sometimes kids who have a keen interest in a certain area may be put in an extension/enrichment course to help them with their passion. To keep students interested and their learning relevant.

I'm actually quite jealous of the range of subjects my kids have been able to access through these courses. A lot of them are now accessible because of technology advances. Subjects that you need a specialist teacher for that most students (especially more rural) wouldn't have had access to but can now be taught by via online classrooms.

Edited by **Xena**, 27 June 2019 - 04:10 PM.


#259 Chaotic Pogo

Posted 02 July 2019 - 08:32 PM

Ozquoll did you read the book?  I thought it wasn’t bad, though I’m not in a position to judge stats in social sciences so I guess that makes my opinion as inaccurate as someone that never studied stats.

I’ve recently had to read a bunch of research papers on early childhood development. So much info missing, so many judgement calls made to create the data, never mind if the data was statistically analysed correctly.

Lost the point of what I’m saying. Keep battling on takes you further than giving up so there must be a kernel of truth in grit?

#260 Ozquoll

Posted 02 July 2019 - 09:06 PM

^^^
Having trouble getting through my backlog of books as it is, can’t add another one to my groaning bookcase! 🤓

I certainly agree that grit is a valuable quality, just less sure that it is a quality that can be nurtured by anyone regardless of their temperament or environment. My view may be distorted by the fact that I have pretty serious executive functioning and motor planning deficits - if grit is ‘buckling down, sticking to a plan and getting things done no matter what’, well, I don’t have it, never did have it, and don’t really see how I could develop it 🤔🤷‍♀️.

#261 MincePieMasterchef

Posted 04 July 2019 - 08:19 AM

View PostPooks Combusted, on 27 June 2019 - 09:45 AM, said:

We got married at 10.30am, my husband’s best man had to run to Big W beforehand because my husband only had runners Posted Image

i see a hilarious thread of wedding near-catastrophes coming up :)




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