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#26 Kiwi Bicycle

Posted 14 August 2019 - 09:37 AM

Actually the Chinese student was at a protest at a QLD university. Although he was wearing his hood up he was identified and his parents in China visited. They then called him to tell him not to get involved.

There was an incident at Auckland university 2 weeks ago were 2 Chinese pro government students had an argument with a HK student who had set up a protest wall ( with university approval) it was filmed with translations as the Chinese students were speaking Manadarian at her, and she was asking them to speak English as she didn't understand them they basically told her she was a derogatory animal for not being able to speak Mabdarian and ended up causing her to fall over, thankfully unharmed. So it happening everywhere.

#27 purplekitty

Posted 14 August 2019 - 09:54 AM

View PostKiwi Bicycle, on 14 August 2019 - 09:37 AM, said:

Actually the Chinese student was at a protest at a QLD university. Although he was wearing his hood up he was identified and his parents in China visited. They then called him to tell him not to get involved.

There was an incident at Auckland university 2 weeks ago were 2 Chinese pro government students had an argument with a HK student who had set up a protest wall ( with university approval) it was filmed with translations as the Chinese students were speaking Manadarian at her, and she was asking them to speak English as she didn't understand them they basically told her she was a derogatory animal for not being able to speak Mabdarian and ended up causing her to fall over, thankfully unharmed. So it happening everywhere.
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You'd think they would need to be more restrained if they are on visas.

#28 annodam

Posted 14 August 2019 - 11:09 AM

Well I can't be fk'ed sitting here monitoring day by day events in the hope that this'll get better.
I cancelled DDs airfare for now & may book at a later stage if things improve.

#29 Lunafreya

Posted 14 August 2019 - 11:14 AM

Tanks and troops are moving in

https://abc.net.au/n...irport/11411674

I don’t think we can DO anything or SAY anything, if we do, China could retaliate economically. Trash the world economy.

#30 CallMeFeral

Posted 14 August 2019 - 11:36 AM

Yup. That's why they are so brazen now. They know nobody will stand up to it as they are now so powerful. Terrifying.

#31 Lunafreya

Posted 14 August 2019 - 11:40 AM

Trump might, but he’s no model for good behaviour. He literally bets the farm,

#32 miriams

Posted 14 August 2019 - 02:02 PM

No pity about the fears of China to be honest. I'm Irish - we've, and others,  fought for years for freedom and got little but bullets and poverty for it. We've got exactly the world those bastards created. They're welcome to it.

#33 CallMeFeral

Posted 14 August 2019 - 02:51 PM

View Postmiriams, on 14 August 2019 - 02:02 PM, said:

No pity about the fears of China to be honest. I'm Irish - we've, and others,  fought for years for freedom and got little but bullets and poverty for it. We've got exactly the world those bastards created. They're welcome to it.

Who is the they in this context? And who is the pity (or lack thereof) supposed to be for? I'm confused.

#34 micric

Posted 14 August 2019 - 06:59 PM

View PostCallMeFeral, on 14 August 2019 - 02:51 PM, said:

Who is the they in this context? And who is the pity (or lack thereof) supposed to be for? I'm confused.

I suspect (but could be wrong), the British...

#35 Lunafreya

Posted 14 August 2019 - 07:01 PM

Um, it’s the Chinese we are worried about, dear.

#36 Lunafreya

Posted 15 August 2019 - 05:04 PM

I’m...there are all these tanks about 25km north of Hong Kong

https://abc.net.au/n...g-kong/11415740

And the protestors won’t budge. They say undercover police are infiltrating them to instigate disturbances and spy

I’m very worried, the protestors are brave but...

#37 CallMeFeral

Posted 15 August 2019 - 09:33 PM

That's terrifying. Tiananmen Square comes to mind.

#38 Gumbette

Posted 16 August 2019 - 09:04 AM

And again it will be the young and selfless that are taken out first, like those in Tienanmen Square.  They shot at volunteer medical staff wearing long white coats to distinguish themselves from the protesters FFS.

#39 Ozquoll

Posted 16 August 2019 - 09:25 AM

View PostGumbette, on 16 August 2019 - 09:04 AM, said:

And again it will be the young and selfless that are taken out first, like those in Tienanmen Square.  They shot at volunteer medical staff wearing long white coats to distinguish themselves from the protesters FFS.
This happens to Palestinian medics regularly too 😟

#40 Lunafreya

Posted 16 August 2019 - 09:40 PM

https://abc.net.au/n...otests/11420840

This is worrying.

#41 22Fruitmincepies

Posted 03 September 2019 - 12:15 AM

I watched the four corners episode on the Hong Kong protests tonight - wow, what brave people. I’d like to think I would stand up for what I believe in like they have, but I’m not sure if I’d be brave enough at this point in my life.

#42 Bethlehem Babe

Posted 03 September 2019 - 07:40 AM

This is very much a test. China won’t back down. They cannot keep having Hong Kong as it’s own system when it continues to control and restrict the rest of China.
There’s a really great episode of the podcast “the party room” about China https://overcast.fm/+GYIxta3KU


I can’t put my finger on why, but the blue dye being sprayed to mark the protestors for later arrest really disturbs me.

#43 Lunafreya

Posted 03 September 2019 - 07:49 AM

I came here to talk about this! I noticed what the protestors did when they stormed the government headquarters. “Do not vandalise library books”, “Do not destroy antiques”, “We are not thieves, pay for your drinks”.  Sometimes the revolution CAN be civilised.

The tactics they were using to avoid police, not just to avoid arrest but avoid violence and protect themselves.

And what gets me excited is they don’t just have students, young people, radicals, but groups that can be hard to engage with: the elderly and the middle professional class. The back bone of any society. Once you have those people as part of your revolution, any government should be very, very worried.

Do you hear the people sing? Couldn’t help but sing along to this.

#44 Bethlehem Babe

Posted 03 September 2019 - 08:26 AM

Absolutely Luna!

I think the fact that a lot of the older people grew up under British rule and the freedoms associated with that has made the resistance stronger.

#45 Lunafreya

Posted 03 September 2019 - 08:44 AM

Yup, they have living memory of before. Something which China doesn’t have.

#46 Lifesgood

Posted 03 September 2019 - 09:00 AM

I've been following the protests in HK closely as part of my overall interest in global affairs and China's growing power and authoritarianism.

Like some others, I have recently booked flights to HK for next year - with a group of friends to celebrate a milestone birthday. Obviously will have to wait an see what the situation is like closer to the time.

Today's news includes a leaked audio of Carrie Lam basically saying she would like to step down but isn't allowed to - presumably by China. She has been told not to negotiate or give any ground.
https://www.theguard...ce-leaked-audio

On Twitter I saw a protester neutralise a cannister of tear gas - pretty amazing stuff. I'm really awed by the HKers.
https://twitter.com/...006395884519425

China is under a lot of pressure from a number of fronts at present, there is no telling how they will react.

#47 Lunafreya

Posted 03 September 2019 - 09:05 AM

That pro-China politician, making excuses for not engaging with the protesters. “They have no leaders”. “That’s because they’ve been arrested and imprisoned!”

Edited by Lunafreya, 03 September 2019 - 09:05 AM.


#48 SFmummyto3

Posted 03 September 2019 - 09:16 AM

View Post22Fruitmincepies, on 03 September 2019 - 12:15 AM, said:

I watched the four corners episode on the Hong Kong protests tonight - wow, what brave people. I’d like to think I would stand up for what I believe in like they have, but I’m not sure if I’d be brave enough at this point in my life.

I watched it also and what I saw terrifies me. What brave people they are protesting both young and old.

I agree China will not back down and am afraid it will end in widespread violence and deaths.

The blue dye reminds me of marking people who hold opposing views and are different and makes it easy for the government to arrest people. The yellow stars worn during the Holocaust comes to mind.

#49 Lunafreya

Posted 03 September 2019 - 09:19 AM

I wonder if those protestors will be inventive with getting rid of the blue dye.

#50 Gumbette

Posted 03 September 2019 - 09:23 AM

View PostLunafreya, on 03 September 2019 - 07:49 AM, said:

And what gets me excited is they don’t just have students, young people, radicals, but groups that can be hard to engage with: the elderly and the middle professional class. The back bone of any society. Once you have those people as part of your revolution, any government should be very, very worried.

On the weekend, the roads to the airport were blocked by private vehicles.  That's huge.  Those who own a vehicle in Hong Kong either use it as a tool of trade or are very wealthy, so no, not just uni students anymore.

Edited by Gumbette, 03 September 2019 - 09:25 AM.





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