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So much work still to do (trigger - sexual abuse)


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#1 BadCat

Posted 22 May 2019 - 08:10 AM

This study indicates that:

Nearly a third of young men, 32 per cent, believe many women who said they’d been raped led the man on and then had regrets.

Not good enough.

There is evidence of some improvements, but it's not enough.

We need to keep at it.  We need to keep pushing the message.  We need feminism.

Lots of work left to do in this space.  Let's keep working.


https://pursuit.unim...e-against-women

#2 Navy Blue

Posted 22 May 2019 - 08:48 AM

Unfortunately men can't see beyond their own wants - and ego - to believe many truths.

We've definitely made gains, but it's frustrating how slow a process it is. And it's frightening that the push back is so hateful.

#3 Fresh Start

Posted 22 May 2019 - 09:56 AM

And then the ABC calls a guy pleading guilty to revenge porn a victim! They’ve changed it after a lot of backlash but Ketan Joshi got a screenshot:

https://twitter.com/...1937027072?s=21

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How did anyone think that headline was okay in the first place?

#4 Jenflea

Posted 22 May 2019 - 10:22 AM

I saw a WOMAN on FB say it's a terrible time for men right now.
Because women make false claims of rape and the poor mens go to jail.

She was forking serious! I was disgusted.

I expected better of a female, but apparently not.

#5 Octopodes

Posted 22 May 2019 - 11:01 AM

I read this this morning, so damn depressing!

Some of the numbers in relation to female's thoughts on the topic are not much better. The men being in control of a relationship responses were frightening.

These attitudes start so young, DS12 (Year 6) has friends who feel girls are lesser than them. DS has caused a few issues in his friendship group by standing up against sexist comments.

Having a fundy living in The Lodge is not going make things any better either. It is only a matter of time until the 'women belong in the kitchen' type rhetoric starts to seep through.

#6 ~Bob~

Posted 22 May 2019 - 11:54 AM

My Mum says similar things. She listens to talk back radio, so she often hears this sort of thing there. Some people think that there’s a tsunami of women all falsely claiming abuse. It’s just not real. Sure, some women do, but it’s rare. #notallwomen ;)

#7 Jane Jetson

Posted 22 May 2019 - 12:56 PM

Yeah, I read that this morning and was disgusted (if not surprised).

But PP? Can I just ask that you stop referring to us as "females"? We are women (or girls).

"Female" is an adjective. When used as a noun, as it so frequently (and intentionally) is by incels, MGTOWs and other MRAs, it is dehumanising.

#8 Octopodes

Posted 22 May 2019 - 01:11 PM

View PostJane Jetson, on 22 May 2019 - 12:56 PM, said:

Yeah, I read that this morning and was disgusted (if not surprised).

But PP? Can I just ask that you stop referring to us as "females"? We are women (or girls).

"Female" is an adjective. When used as a noun, as it so frequently (and intentionally) is by incels, MGTOWs and other MRAs, it is dehumanising.
It goes both ways. I regularly come across males using 'wimin' in the same way.

I prefer to be called a female than a woman. I tend to refer to males rather than men also. The word woman makes me feel like no more than a uterus/womb.

We refer to the sexes of every other animal on the planet as male or female, I see us as no different.

Edited by Octopodes, 22 May 2019 - 01:30 PM.


#9 Ruf~Feral~es

Posted 22 May 2019 - 02:03 PM

This is my new focus - at home and in my social circles.  I have given up on politics in disgust, and am now focussed on educating my daughter and all her friends on what they should and should not tolerate, and my son and all his friends on what they should and should not do.  (I kind of did already, but no more subtlety or gentleness from me now).

And my DH and all the other parents as well.  I'm going to channel my anger and frustration into something that I can hopefully make a difference in.

What little I heard of this on the news this morning depressed me further.

#10 Ruf~Feral~es

Posted 22 May 2019 - 02:18 PM

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But PP? Can I just ask that you stop referring to us as "females"? We are women (or girls).

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We refer to the sexes of every other animal on the planet as male or female, I see us as no different.

Let's not argue between ourselves about female versus woman?  

The terminology is not the fight.  It's the lack of respect we need to challenge.  The basic way women/females are treated in our patriarchal society - lets not waste energy on terminology and internal wars that detract from the big picture?

#11 Octopodes

Posted 22 May 2019 - 04:01 PM

I completely agree about the terminology. Certain words bother me, but there are much bigger fish to fry. My response in this thread was to purely point out that not even all women/females agree with what the correct terminology should be. I'll drop the subject now so as not to derail the thread any further.

#12 Ruf~Feral~es

Posted 22 May 2019 - 04:15 PM

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My response in this thread was to purely point out that not even all women/females agree with what the correct terminology should be.



Yeah, I get it, and I agree!  :yes:

#13 Tuwallat

Posted 22 May 2019 - 04:22 PM

What the heck is this?
According to a 2017 report by the US National Institutes of Health, fake accusers "were primarily motivated by emotional gain. Most false allegations were used to cover up other behaviour such as adultery or skipping school".

Edited by Tuwallat, 22 May 2019 - 05:44 PM.


#14 PrincessPeach

Posted 22 May 2019 - 04:25 PM

View PostRuf~Feral~es, on 22 May 2019 - 02:03 PM, said:

This is my new focus - at home and in my social circles.  I have given up on politics in disgust, and am now focussed on educating my daughter and all her friends on what they should and should not tolerate, and my son and all his friends on what they should and should not do.  (I kind of did already, but no more subtlety or gentleness from me now).

And my DH and all the other parents as well.  I'm going to channel my anger and frustration into something that I can hopefully make a difference in.

What little I heard of this on the news this morning depressed me further.

Yep.

I have 2 boys & this is drumming home just how much responsibility DH & I have to teach them respect as they grow up.




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