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#1 RMackintosh

Posted 08 March 2019 - 02:01 PM

Hey everyone!

My wife (38 weeks pregnant) and I were all set on the name Baron for our first child. We recently saw that it is one of the 46 names that are banned in Victoria.

My question is, if I add an extra "R" to his name so it's "Barron" or any other variation, would that be allowed? Or would it still get banned?

Hope someone here can help!

#2 Amica

Posted 08 March 2019 - 02:07 PM

It would have been easier and faster to call BDM then create an EB account, then write a post!

Suggestion: Aaron?

#3 Cimbom

Posted 08 March 2019 - 02:08 PM

Baron is a title (like Duke, Prince, etc). You probably need to speak to Births, Deaths and Marriages for advice. Not sure that anyone here would be able to say either way

#4 RMackintosh

Posted 08 March 2019 - 02:10 PM

 AliasMater, on 08 March 2019 - 02:07 PM, said:

It would have been easier and faster to call BDM then create an EB account, then write a post!

Suggestion: Aaron?
Yeah man, a 1 hour and 20 minute wait.. Don't think I already tried that? So much faster...

#5 gettin my fance on

Posted 08 March 2019 - 02:11 PM

Or you could choose a name a little less related to the whole Trump vibe.

#6 ~J_F~

Posted 08 March 2019 - 02:13 PM

The fact that its Trumps kids name is more than enough for me to think the ban is a good thing :lol:

But yer BDM is probably the only place that will be able to tell you if the extra R will get past the ban..

#7 Literary Lemur

Posted 08 March 2019 - 02:15 PM

A friend recently in Victoria wanted a title for a name for their child and had to provide a convincing argument.  'Because we like it' wasn't enough. Their argument was accepted.

#8 Amica

Posted 08 March 2019 - 02:18 PM

 RMackintosh, on 08 March 2019 - 02:10 PM, said:

Yeah man, a 1 hour and 20 minute wait.. Don't think I already tried that? So much faster...

Oh no, you hung up after an hour and 20 minutes?

I just phoned 137468 (Queensland BDM) there was no hold time. I spoke to human within 20 seconds.

Try that?

#9 schwatzen

Posted 08 March 2019 - 02:26 PM

Okay but why? Why that name in particular?

#10 Mollycoddle

Posted 08 March 2019 - 02:40 PM

 Literary Lemur, on 08 March 2019 - 02:15 PM, said:

A friend recently in Victoria wanted a title for a name for their child and had to provide a convincing argument.  'Because we like it' wasn't enough. Their argument was accepted.

Out of curiosity, what was the argument.  We know a Prince (Middle Eastern background).  That's a cultural thing so they were allowed to use it.

#11 Gudrun

Posted 08 March 2019 - 03:19 PM

It's a relatively new list and obviously put together by a bunch of people that have no clue about naming history.  Putting quite normal names on there that plenty of people and their ancestors have because they are also titles is ignorant and nonsensical IMO. When I meet a person called Baron I do not think he has delusions of grandeur I just think he's called Baron.

Whether respelling would get you out of it I don't know. If you can't get through on the phone maybe just do it and see what happens or rock along to BDM in person at a non-peak time or agitate for the list to be fixed up.


#12 Freddie'sMum

Posted 08 March 2019 - 03:34 PM

Baron is a title like Prince or Duke or Earl.  Maybe choose a name that isn't a title? There are so many great boys names to choose from.

Plus, like a PP said upthread, Trump's youngest child is named Barron.  I wouldn't like the association with him.

What other names made the shortlist?  EB loves a baby naming thread :)

#13 Luci

Posted 08 March 2019 - 03:35 PM

I would try calling BDM first thing in the morning when they open, so hopefully the wait time is shorter.

It is a very specific question which is determined by BDM policies. Not something that could be answered by EB unless someone here actually works at BDM and has the authority to make that sort of decision.

#14 red_squirrel

Posted 08 March 2019 - 03:44 PM

 Gudrun, on 08 March 2019 - 03:19 PM, said:

It's a relatively new list and obviously put together by a bunch of people that have no clue about naming history.  Putting quite normal names on there that plenty of people and their ancestors have because they are also titles is ignorant and nonsensical IMO. When I meet a person called Baron I do not think he has delusions of grandeur I just think he's called Baron.

Whether respelling would get you out of it I don't know. If you can't get through on the phone maybe just do it and see what happens or rock along to BDM in person at a non-peak time or agitate for the list to be fixed up.

I’d agree with this even though I’m not that familiar with several naming cultures but just looking at it the names Justice and Honour stand out. If met several older people with these names.

It seems a bit of a weird and pointless thing to do. If you call your kid Prince, no one is ever going to mistake them for a Prince.

#15 little lion

Posted 08 March 2019 - 03:58 PM

Just don’t spell it Barren!

#16 Astrocyte

Posted 08 March 2019 - 04:01 PM

An Australian actress (Tessa James from memory) wanted to name her Saint, which I think is banned in Victoria. She spelled it Saynt to get around the ban. Both versions of Saint are terrible.

#17 Luci

Posted 08 March 2019 - 04:12 PM

 RMackintosh, on 08 March 2019 - 02:10 PM, said:

Yeah man, a 1 hour and 20 minute wait.. Don't think I already tried that? So much faster...

It would have been faster to stay on hold and get a definitive answer from someone with the appropriate authority to answer the question.  Although as mentioned by a PP EB does love a naming thread!

#18 eponee

Posted 08 March 2019 - 04:25 PM

 little lion, on 08 March 2019 - 03:58 PM, said:

Just don’t spell it Barren!

How about Barryn?

#19 lazycritter

Posted 08 March 2019 - 04:26 PM

Does Victorian bd&m might have different rules to other states. Go interstate for the birth.

Baron will probably become Bazza at some point.

#20 schwatzen

Posted 08 March 2019 - 04:33 PM

When i think of Baron i think 'Jewish surname'.

Surely they would accept Barron instead. That's a legitimate name.

#21 literally nobody

Posted 08 March 2019 - 04:41 PM

be prepared for him to be nicknamed Bazza.

#22 Imaginary friend

Posted 08 March 2019 - 04:46 PM

I know a Prince and a Princess - but they may have been named in other countries and then moved to Australia, not sure.
They are from African heritage.

I also know a Justice but can't remember spelling, she was born in Australia and is about 20 years old.
Have also met older man about 60, called Duke.
And several called King, short for Kingsley.

Justice seems silly to ban as it is also a word and no different to calling your child Faith or Prudence or any other virtue name.

Re Barron - I don't think most people associate it with Trumps son and anyway Trump will come and go and people will not remember names of his children for long.

Not a fan of the name though, using any spelling.

Aaron is a similar sounding name and a conventional well known name but not over popular.
Perhaps consider that?

Or even the name Barry, which Baron would probably get for short anyway and is an established name although out of fashion now but BDM would have no issue with.

#23 IamzFeralz

Posted 08 March 2019 - 04:48 PM

I reckon OP is having some Friday fun.  Look at their post count!

#24 Amica

Posted 08 March 2019 - 04:51 PM

 IamzFeralz, on 08 March 2019 - 04:48 PM, said:

I reckon OP is having some Friday fun.  Look at their post count!

Without doubt!

#25 Literary Lemur

Posted 08 March 2019 - 04:54 PM

 Mollycoddle, on 08 March 2019 - 02:40 PM, said:

Out of curiosity, what was the argument.  We know a Prince (Middle Eastern background).  That's a cultural thing so they were allowed to use it.

A family name.




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